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Hello all. This is my first post and hopefully the only time I ever have this whole diamond problem
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I am ready to propose and I''ve done so much research that my head is about to spin. I want the most for my money and I have a $5,000-$5,500 budget. I found some good deals (or at least I think so) online but I freak out when it''s time to click the "process order" button! As far as diamond knowledge I know a little bit. My criteria is as follows: 1 ct or more, round cut (ideal), Color between D-H, and no less than a SI2 clarity. So using these conditions I''ve found these two rings. Someone please help me decide or at least reasure me that I''m on the right path.

1st: http://www.adiamor.com/D-2921253.htm
$5,278 - 1.26 carat Round cut, E color, SI2 clarity, GIA, Fluorescence Strong, Affinity cut grade

2nd: http://www.bluenile.com/diamonds_details.asp?__fun_frm=i&pid=LD00377467&filter_id=0
$5,379 - 1.22-Carat Round Diamond, Ideal-cut, H-color, and SI2-clarity, GIA, Fluorescence None

What do you think? Can I do better or is this good? I like the first one. Thanks for all the help.
 
Date: 7/5/2006 6:32:07 PM
Author:My_Days_Are_Numbered
Hello all. This is my first post and hopefully the only time I ever have this whole diamond problem
emwink.gif


I am ready to propose and I''ve done so much research that my head is about to spin. I want the most for my money and I have a $5,000-$5,500 budget. I found some good deals (or at least I think so) online but I freak out when it''s time to click the ''process order'' button! As far as diamond knowledge I know a little bit. My criteria is as follows: 1 ct or more, round cut (ideal), Color between D-H, and no less than a SI2 clarity. So using these conditions I''ve found these two rings. Someone please help me decide or at least reasure me that I''m on the right path.

1st: http://www.adiamor.com/D-2921253.htm
$5,278 - 1.26 carat Round cut, E color, SI2 clarity, GIA, Fluorescence Strong, Affinity cut grade


What do you think? Can I do better or is this good? I like the first one. Thanks for all the help.
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LOL !!! Affinity cut grade ? what''s that?
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they don''t even show the GIA report on their website.
 
Here are Mara's numbers for you to use as a guide.

"table: 55-56 (but i would do 54 or 57 MAYBE if the other numbers corresponded but i'd prefer not to)
depth: 60.4ish-61.2ish (these are really strict, you can go up to 62 and still have a lovely diamond but then you lose some diameter in the depth which bugs me)
crown angle: 34.4ish-34.9 (maybe more shallow than 34.4 but depends on other specs)
pav angle: 40.5-40.8 (40.9 if necessary and other specs are cherry)
girdle: thin-med is my fave because i don't want weight lost in the girdle nor do i like to see it
polish/symm: EX/EX or ID/ID
culet: none or vs is fine too
fluor: i'd love slight-strong fluor depending on the stone and the other qualitities...i have slight fluor in my stone now and who knows if it makes a real difference but i like the thought. it's great for lower colored stones."
 
According to the Adiamor website the Affinity cut is simple an "ideal cut" with standards high marks in symmetry & polish...
"What makes the Affinity Collection diamonds more than just an Ideal cut diamond is the polish and symmetry must be graded no less than Ideal (ID) by AGSL standards or excellent (EX) by GIA standards. This ensures that each diamond in the Affinity Collection will radiate the most sparkle and brilliance."

And this diamond is graded and certified by GIA.

Am I missing something here? Anyone else think it''s not legit?
 
You are paying more for a meaningless label. You can find diamonds as well cut without the fancy name-- which really means nothing in this case.
 
First of all, thank you for helping me. I really appreciate it.

So even without the fancy cut name, you think I can do better than the Adiamor diamond correct?

What other resources can I tap into? I know of bluenile.com.
 
Date: 7/5/2006 8:40:33 PM
Author: My_Days_Are_Numbered
According to the Adiamor website the Affinity cut is simple an ''ideal cut'' with standards high marks in symmetry & polish...
''What makes the Affinity Collection diamonds more than just an Ideal cut diamond is the polish and symmetry must be graded no less than Ideal (ID) by AGSL standards or excellent (EX) by GIA standards. This ensures that each diamond in the Affinity Collection will radiate the most sparkle and brilliance.''

And this diamond is graded and certified by GIA.

Am I missing something here? Anyone else think it''s not legit?
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well,if that is true then....why is this diamond only graded good/good ?
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Hi My days
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Nothing wrong with Bluenile, they have a very nice return policy. I personally prefer to work with a vendor who has an upgrade policy so if you/she ever decides to go for a larger stone you can trade up and depending on the vendor get 100% of your purchase price towards a new stone. Gypsy linked you to a nice stone at Whiteflash..It''s going to be white, white as an E and you''d want to check with WF to be sure it''s eyeclean. GoodoldGold.com is another vendor who has some beautiful stones in house and may have one that would fit the bill. What type of setting is she wanting?
 
Don''t have enough information on that site. I can''t see the actual cert to get the numbers... but you can call them, get the numbers... and then compare them to Mara''s I posted above. Also ask for an Ideal Scope and Sarin. Then post the information... and we''ll be able to help you better.


Also please go to GOG at www.goodoldgold.com and carefully read their tutorial on the 4 c''s. It will help you greatly.
 
they list the symmetry and polish of that diamond as good. so I don''t see how that could be excellent or ideal. it is discounted probably because it is not eyeclean (SI2)- some are clean, most aren''t.

YES! You can most certainly do better than this!
 
This

looks like it could be a great deal if you don''t need perfect symmetry. don''t be afraid of J- in an ideal cut, it still faces up super white. do a board search for J stones in platinum.
 
Thanks again.

I just called them and they said they will post the diamonds official GIA report online tomorrow. So when I see it posted (if they even do it) I''ll add the link here. So who knows.
 
You''ll have the numbers... and if you read the tutorial I gave to the link to... you''ll be in better shape. I would not buy a diamond online without an idealscope and sarin. Make sure you get those as well.
 
Date: 7/5/2006 8:57:05 PM
Author: mrssalvo
Hi My days
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Nothing wrong with Bluenile, they have a very nice return policy. I personally prefer to work with a vendor who has an upgrade policy so if you/she ever decides to go for a larger stone you can trade up and depending on the vendor get 100% of your purchase price towards a new stone. Gypsy linked you to a nice stone at Whiteflash..It''s going to be white, white as an E and you''d want to check with WF to be sure it''s eyeclean. GoodoldGold.com is another vendor who has some beautiful stones in house and may have one that would fit the bill. What type of setting is she wanting?
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Hi - She wants white gold. So I''m going to go with a 14k or 18k white gold solitaire. I''m so glad I posted on here before I bought something. I just want the best ring I can get for her.
 
Hi My Days are Numbered ~
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Welcome to Pricescope!
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I just wanted to show you this http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/2161/ ... it is something you might want to consider!
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Bank wire price is in your budget @ $5,480.00. I love this diamonds bscope image too!
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bscope 110ct i si1.JPG
 
Date: 7/5/2006 6:32:07 PM
Author:My_Days_Are_Numbered
Hello all. This is my first post and hopefully the only time I ever have this whole diamond problem
emwink.gif


I am ready to propose and I''ve done so much research that my head is about to spin. I want the most for my money and I have a $5,000-$5,500 budget. I found some good deals (or at least I think so) online but I freak out when it''s time to click the ''process order'' button! As far as diamond knowledge I know a little bit. My criteria is as follows: 1 ct or more, round cut (ideal), Color between D-H, and no less than a SI2 clarity. So using these conditions I''ve found these two rings. Someone please help me decide or at least reasure me that I''m on the right path.

1st: http://www.adiamor.com/D-2921253.htm
$5,278 - 1.26 carat Round cut, E color, SI2 clarity, GIA, Fluorescence Strong, Affinity cut grade

2nd: http://www.bluenile.com/diamonds_details.asp?__fun_frm=i&pid=LD00377467&filter_id=0
$5,379 - 1.22-Carat Round Diamond, Ideal-cut, H-color, and SI2-clarity, GIA, Fluorescence None

What do you think? Can I do better or is this good? I like the first one. Thanks for all the help.
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As has been suggested above, the SI2 characteristic in both options above must be some sort of confound. In the second choice, performance on the HCA is good. On the first option, too many things don''t make sense.

Basically, you get what you pay for. Others here will find it reasonable to go above H, for a good purpose. But, and especially since your choices have stayed below I, I''ll recommend one sight unseen by anybody but AGS....this one...from James Alexander. The wire price is $5596, it gets a zero from AGS for excellent light performance, it gets you an H SI 1 at 1.13 carats, and is probably a good value.
 
Date: 7/5/2006 8:15:01 PM
Author: Dancing Fire


Date: 7/5/2006 6:32:07 PM
Author:My_Days_Are_Numbered
Hello all. This is my first post and hopefully the only time I ever have this whole diamond problem
emwink.gif


I am ready to propose and I've done so much research that my head is about to spin. I want the most for my money and I have a $5,000-$5,500 budget. I found some good deals (or at least I think so) online but I freak out when it's time to click the 'process order' button! As far as diamond knowledge I know a little bit. My criteria is as follows: 1 ct or more, round cut (ideal), Color between D-H, and no less than a SI2 clarity. So using these conditions I've found these two rings. Someone please help me decide or at least reasure me that I'm on the right path.

1st: http://www.adiamor.com/D-2921253.htm
$5,278 - 1.26 carat Round cut, E color, SI2 clarity, GIA, Fluorescence Strong, Affinity cut grade


What do you think? Can I do better or is this good? I like the first one. Thanks for all the help.
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LOL !!! Affinity cut grade ? what's that?
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they don't even show the GIA report on their website.
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Please be aware that Adiamor is one of numerous companies making unauthorized use of ‘A Cut Above’ signature hearts & arrows images on their website.

While we are flattered that our diamonds & imagery are found appealing we believe it's important to state that we do not provide our H&A diamonds to other companies. The diamond in these images was owned and photographed by Whiteflash.
 
John, why are they PS vendors?
 
I was under the impression that to advertise on PS (or be listed in searches) required some degree of a background check, or some kind of fair and honest business methods. ...although Tiffany images seem to be public domain.
 
Julie,

(Thanks, btw, for your help in my other post re GIA & HCA...a nice bit of work...)

But...I don''t think Adiamor is a paying vendor here...and believe Leonid probably would go along with restricting vendors to those with fair business practices. But..to exclude someone from being available from a text search? This would mean striking characters from posts. Despite Diamond Ideals that we all have, this would take much to much work, and no one could be expected to do that...presuming search engines here work in an ordinary way.

Did I understand the idea?
 
RG, they show up in the price comparison search, not a text search.

(what you'd really want to do is find all GIA combos of 2 (or 1.8-2.2) and test all other combinations and see what percentage of the time it goves over 2 or 2.5. I think once you got to 1.7 or something they were pretty much ok)
 
Julie,

If you''re seeing them, I wouldn''t deny they''re there (though maybe you can reference a diamond size color & clarity so I can see it too...and right about now I wish there were PMs again).

Presuming they''re there, Leonid may figure that, in an effort to be balanced, and to remove himself from research he''s not charged to bring forward, he''s got bigger fish to fry.
 
.5 H VS2, in house
 
Date: 7/6/2006 3:26:37 PM
Author: JulieN
I was under the impression that to advertise on PS (or be listed in searches) required some degree of a background check, or some kind of fair and honest business methods.
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Adiamor never has been paid advertiser of Pricescope. The company was included into local jewelry listings (along with 100 other jewelers based on consumer recommendations on the forum, as well as JVC and JBT memberships) and also listed a couple of dozens in-house diamonds, which was on a trial basis and wasn''t paid. They have been in the web for quite a while but we missed the fact that they use copyrighted image.

JulieN and John Q, Adiamor is a member of JVC and JBT. Why don''t you address the issue of copyrighted image with these organizations?

We now removing them from our listings until the issue is resolved.


Date: 7/6/2006 3:26:37 PM
Author: JulieN

...although Tiffany images seem to be public domain.
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What do you mean, JulieN? Any image/content produced by an individual or business is a subject of copyright?
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Date: 7/6/2006 3:37:18 PM
Author: JulieN
RG, they show up in the price comparison search, not a text search.
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I just did a price comparison search (1.26 E, SI2, as this affinity stone is listed to be), and I don''t see any results for this vendor. I think you are confusing them with Abazias.
 
Date: 7/6/2006 4:29:51 PM
Author: JulieN
.5 H VS2, in house
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Again, don''t see it. The only result I got for that search criteria was one WF stone. Where are you seeing it?



Crown=34.7° Pavilion=40.8°
0.50 H VS2 61.6% 56% AGS tn-sl.tk f id id n 5.09x5.11x3.14 -2% $1255 Whiteflash
 
price comparison, in house. Alj, you are searching by cut. anyway, my question has been answered, thank you.
 
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