E-ring - Please help me incorporate these elements (PICS)

[panda87]

I hope this is the right place to post this..Apologies in advance for the length.. I keep thinking of more to add as I go. So, I have started talking to a jeweller who seems really great, but I am still uncertain and having trouble visualising what I want.

First things first. The essentials
- Finger size is about a 4 (i.e. small)
- Low-ish profile - around 0.5 mm from base of head to top of diamond (RB ~ 0.4ct)
- Solitaire
- Prong setting

I am looking to get 2 accent stones set in the shoulders like this, but they would be amethysts.

I only want 2, as they represent my FI and my birthstone.

What I like is
- they are "buried", so you wouldn't see them from the top. Not my hand btw.


The things I am not sure about
- The image above holds a 1ct... how will this even look with 0.4ct stone
- The thickness of shoulders (I prefer a thin band and probably only 2-3mm wide) - I don't want them to look chunky
- The split-shank look.. I would really prefer a straight band, but this means no shoulder for embedded amethysts
- The head will be different (something along lines of something along the lines of
This, or this), so not sure how shoulders will work anyway
- The amethysts. If I am getting a band that is not very wide, I imagine the stones will be no more than 1mm.

So, is there another way I can incorporate the amethysts? I don't want them under the band. Failing all this, given the size of them, is it even worth building the whole ring design around them? I feel like there are too many elements I like that won't mesh well together at all.... It's driving me mad.

 

[duckduckgoose]

Re: E-ring - Please help me incorporate these elements (PICS

Hi

This is a really nice idea you have, but like you said, it is tough to incorporate all of these different elements. Have you seen solitaire settings with small stones set on the north and south sides of the center diamond? Something like this (http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/sisley-solitaire-engagement-ring-by-vatche-1359.htm) perhaps? This style can be referred to as a "peek-a-boo" stone or "secret stone". A style similar to this would give you the ability to have a thin and delicate band like you want. Are you set on having your local jeweler create the ring?

Also, the prong styles you selected are very pretty, but I (just my opinion!) would worry about the 6 prong or the very flowery 4 prong overpowering a 0.4 carat center stone. If it were me, I might be more inclined to set the stone in a delicate 4 prong with some curves, but something with small prongs that tuck nicely under the stone so that the shape of the stone isn't lost. But, like I said, just my opinion

 

[chrono]

Re: E-ring - Please help me incorporate these elements (PICS

I'm not sure you can do a split shank setting for a 0.4 ct diamond. The diamond will be around 4.7 mm and there's just no room for the split shank.

 

[panda87]

Re: E-ring - Please help me incorporate these elements (PICS

Thanks for your replies.

Those were my concerns, that theres just too much going on for the smaller stone. And when all the inspiration photos are 1ct +, its really hard to put into perspective.

Its funny, that Vatche ring was at the top of my list for a while when I first started looking, i even had a (different) local jeweller say he could do something similar. Then i found a photo on a hand and it looked too high and the twist/prong seemed too bulky for my liking.

From 2 different jevellers rough sketches, i actually think the shoulers would jut out.. both have drawn it not really with a smooth transition, more like a tennis racquet shape lol. I am not a fan of the split shank style anyway.

I was a bit worried about the stones on the head too thinking about a wedding band. Id prefer not to have a curved band or a gap. And so the band would maybe rub on the amethyst or hide it completely.

Is there any other way i can look at getting them into the band?

Thanks again

 

[pandabee]

Re: E-ring - Please help me incorporate these elements (PICS

Would you consider getting the amethysts embedded on the inside of the shank? They would not be visible unless the ring was removed so that would give you the hidden gem look.

 

[panda87]

Re: E-ring - Please help me incorporate these elements (PICS

I did think about having them inside the band, but I would still like to see them. I just don't want them to be "next" to the diamond when viewed from the top.

I did find this, though I am not sure if the "gaps" on the shoulders house stones or not. Plus I am not keen on the double prongs, especially on a smaller stone.


Something else I just thought of... If the setting I choose ends up requiring a bridge, is it possible to place the stones in the bridge? I've had a bit of a google, but can't find anything like this..

 

[duckduckgoose]

Re: E-ring - Please help me incorporate these elements (PICS

I think you could have the stones put on the basket (much like the peek-a-boo style, but on the east and west sides of the center stone), but it might require the diamond to be set slightly high. You also wouldn't be able to have any sort of cathedral (where the band arches up to meet the head of the setting, it would be more of a style where the head of the setting sits on top of the band) That would eliminate the issue of seeing them from the top view. Also, not having a cathedral on a stone of this size might give it a bit more presence as it would appear to stand up and out a little bit more (that is all personal preference though).

I am curious what you mean by setting them on the bridge - is there a picture that you can draw on to show us?

 

[panda87]

Re: E-ring - Please help me incorporate these elements (PICS

Well.. I feel silly now, because a cathedral setting is probably what I am looking at, I just didn't realise it was called as such! I don't want anything too "stick-y up-y", I prefer lower profile. And re the term "bridge" it is what the jeweller described the part going under the head, so it might not be the correct term here.

Anyway, here is a pic, sorry poor quality, and I don't really like it, it was just the best angle I could find to draw on.

 

[chrono]

Re: E-ring - Please help me incorporate these elements (PICS

That part underneath is a support structure and isn't very thick. I don't think it has sufficient strength and depth to support a melee stone.

 

[panda87]

Re: E-ring - Please help me incorporate these elements (PICS

Thanks, I am going away from the accents. Its just too hard, its not really fun anymore! I do have another thread and am probably repeating myself but that one is for the stone, a dilemma in itself.

I am looking at a trellis / x-prong type setting, which was actually what I started out looking at and then got carried away looking for some unique detail.

*if* i do the surprise stones, they will be north south providing they will even be big enough to be worth including.

A few things im thinking about - how much the head will stick out i.e. i know it wont be flush. Ive looked for designs where the bottom of the X part or trellis curves inwards at the base of the head so that a band would sit flush.. sorry, really poor description.. but maybe this isnt possible? Ideas welcome!

Then, if i cant get the e ring with a flush profile, would something like this work?