E-Ring Final Four! ASET Showdown

[inkwell]

Thanks to all the wonderful help I've gotten on this site I've narrowed my selection down to these 4 stones. If I go with a smaller one I'm going to add some bling to the mounting, and if I go with the bigger one I'm going to go with a solitaire. Please let me know your thoughts on the ASET's and whether you think the imperfections of the H&A images will make any difference to the naked eye? Thank you!

#1: 1 carat



GIA Facetware/Sarin (avgs):
Dia: 6.5
Depth%: 60.78
Table%: 57.1
Crown*: 33.05
Pav*: 43.47
HCA: 1.4, ex/ex/ex/vg

AGS PGS/Sarin (avgs):
D: 6.5
D%: 60.8
T%: 57
C*: 33.2
P*: 41.2
HCA: 2.1, vg/vg/vg/vg

AGS Report/Cert:
D: 6.5
D%: 60.9
T%: 57
C*: 33.1
P*: 41.1
HCA: 1.4, ex/ex/ex/vg

My thoughts: ASET looks good, but not sure if the imperfections of the H&A will have an impact on performance. HCA scares me a little... not knowing which set of measurements is correct swings from 1.4 to 2.1...

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#2 1.195 carat




Sarin Report (avgs):
D: 6.78
D%: 61.9
T%: 56.2
C*: 34.5
P*: 40.7
HCA: 1.0, ex/ex/ex/vg

AGS Cert: Identical to above

My thoughts: Looks pretty much perfect, but a bit more $/carat than the others. Not sure if green center is a problem. HCA looks great.

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#3 1.2 carat




GIA Facetware/Sarin (avgs):
D: 6.84
D%: 61.46
T%: 55
C*: 34.31
P*: 40.64
HCA: 0.7, ex/ex/ex/vg

AGS PGS/Sarin (avgs): Identical to above

GIA Report/Cert: Identical to above

My thoughts: Again, issues with H&A imperfections - do these affect eye performance? Does the green lighting in the center of the ASET affect eye performance? Do the imperfections of the two "arrow-stems" on the left side affect eye performance? HCA looks great.

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#4 1.3 carat




GIA Facetware/Sarin (avgs):
D: 7.03
D%: 61.16
T%: 57.9
C*: 34.21
P*: 40.98
HCA: 1.6, ex/vg/vg/vg

AGS PGS/Sarin (avgs): Identical to above

GIA Report/Cert: Identical to above

My thoughts: H&A look good, ASET shows an imperfection around 8 o'clock (green light at girdle). Not sure if this will affect eye performance. How is HCA under 2 but still predominantly "very good" ?? Will this affect eye performance?

All input greatly appreciated by myself and my lucky someone special!

 

[Niel]

number 2!

 

[two_little_birds]

#2

 

[inkwell]

Thanks for the replies! #2 is the most expensive of the 4 --- aside from the fact the pictures are cleaner, will #2 visually outperform the others? If they will all be the same to the naked eye I would prefer to get #4 (1.3c) or the cheaper #1 or #3 !!

Do you guys and gals see any reason I should stay away from #1, #3 or #4?? #1 and #3 are about $1000 per carat less than #2 and #4 , and while I appreciate the replies I don't just want to go with #2 without a little analysis or reasoning to guide me

Thanks for the input!!

 

[proto]

2 1 3 4

I would pass on 4

2 1 3 i expect to be very similar but only viewing in person can tell. Ignore the hca numbers. You have ASET to compare them.

 

[Niel]

Thanks for the replies! #2 is the most expensive of the 4 --- aside from the fact the pictures are cleaner, will #2 visually outperform the others? If they will all be the same to the naked eye I would prefer to get #4 (1.3c) or the cheaper #1 or #3 !!

Do you guys and gals see any reason I should stay away from #1, #3 or #4?? #1 and #3 are about $1000 per carat less than #2 and #4 , and while I appreciate the replies I don't just want to go with #2 without a little analysis or reasoning to guide me

Thanks for the input!!

why did you include 2 if you dont want to but it ? lol

i do not like thin arrows and would pay extra for fat ones. but if you dot want to buy 2 id probably get 1, though are both 1 and 3 from gog? have him make a video if thats true

eta: oh, 1.1 is noticeably smaller than 3, so if you didnt go 2 id go 3..for size

 

[tyty333]

#3 Aset looks good and angles look good. Its not an H&A but it will still show arrows.

 

[inkwell]

First Off: THANK YOU for all the good input!

Niel: #2 is my fall back plan in case you guys and gals all reject the rest completely!

I would be happy to buy #3 (1.2) or #4 (1.3) if the consensus is that the naked eye won't know the difference between any of these! #2 (1.195) is about $1200 more than #3 (1.2)

 

[tyty333]

Number 4 is showing some leakage in the aset...not sure how if it will be noticeable in real life.

Do you have links of these stones you can share with us?

 

[inkwell]

Would it be okay to post photos of the stones like I did above? I'd rather not link them directly because I dont want to risk losing out on one.

 

[emmebee]

For that cost tradeoff, I would definitely go #3!!

 

[emmebee]

Would it be okay to post photos of the stones like I did above? I'd rather not link them directly because I dont want to risk losing out on one.

Yes, please do!

 

[inkwell]

1.0



1.2



1.3



1.195

 

[Niel]

1.19 is still my fav, 1.2 looks second best in the photos

 

[inkwell]

Any chance you could tell me what you don't like about the others? How big of a difference to the naked eye do you think the 1.19 and the 1.2 will be? Thanks

 

[emmebee]

I agree, I would eliminate the other two and only keep the 1.2 and 1.195 in contention. I really don't think there will be a visual difference between the two.. they are taken with two different photo set ups so it is hard to compare apples-to-apples, but I do think the 1.2 is a nice stone, esp for $1.2K cheaper than the 1.195..

 

[Niel]

i do think there will be a visual difference, particularly as one has fat arrows and one does not, however, thats more of a preference thing, its not to say one is "better"

i prefer the two i do because of the star length and the LGF

 

[inkwell]

Thanks all, hope to get a few more opinions before I pull the trigger!!

I agree the 1.195 looks picture perfect from the photos, but it is like 17% more money and I am not convinced it'll be 17% more impressive. . . to my sweetheart who really doesn't know anything about this stuff, they all look pretty to her!

 

[inkwell]

Alright here is video of the 1.0, 1.2, and 1.3. Please let me know your thoughts.... I can get the 1.3 for about the same price as the 1.19 do I'm hoping the video is persuasive lol!

https://youtu.be/u7nnm_5NDQQ

 

[pfunk]

They all look great to me. I'd opt for #2 if saving on $ is a bigger concern, and on #4 if the extra size is more important to you. Seriously, they're all gonna be beautiful.

 

[inkwell]

Thanks for the feedback pfunk! I'm very torn!

Here are face ups and face down girdle pics (color):

 

[pfunk]

Do you have the dimensions of each stone? I am curious to see the diameters.

 

[inkwell]

Do you have the dimensions of each stone? I am curious to see the diameters.

All of the diamond specs are in my OP but real quick average diameters:

1.0c/6.5mm - $5447
1.19c/6.78mm - $7915 ($6623/c)
2.0c/6.84mm - $6742 ($5618/c)
3.0c/7.035mm - $8495 ($6535/c)

 

[Niel]

go with the 1.2. its a nice sweet dpot for you, not too small but not too much $$$

 

[emmebee]

Do you have the dimensions of each stone? I am curious to see the diameters.

All of the diamond specs are in my OP but real quick average diameters:

1.0c/6.5mm - $5447
1.19c/6.78mm - $7915 ($6623/c)
2.0c/6.84mm - $6742 ($5618/c)
3.0c/7.035mm - $8495 ($6535/c)

I think you meant 1.2 and 1.3 for the last two, but I understand what you meant and still vote for the 1.2!

 

[pfunk]

I would say #3 after watching the video, seeing the diameters, and seeing the prices. It would definitely be my choice.

 

[WinkHPD]

How can you make a final decision without seeing the stones you like side by side? If you are near an appraiser who is recognized here you could probably arrange for the diamonds to be sent there for you to see side by side.

You will like one or the other better with YOUR eyes. Then you will be happy knowing that you gave her the one that YOU like to represent YOUR feelings for the lady that you intend to spend YOUR life with.

We can not make those decisions for you, especially without seeing the gems ourselves.

You may find that you like the more expensive one better, for what ever reason, and then it will actually be the choice for you with the most value.

On the other hand, you may find that you like the less expensive one better, for what ever reason, and then it will actually be the choice for you with the most value.

You can not know that by asking strangers who also have not seen the diamonds which is the best.

By the way, the green centers only tell you from where that diamond is gathering the light shown in the ASET. They do not mean anything as to whether or not the stone is good or bad. You want, and need some green in the ASET as you will want your diamond to draw light from the zero to 45 degree side angles as well as the red lighting that comes in from the 45 to 75 degree higher angles that are generally stronger light than from the side.

Just as there is contrast between the blue (75 to 90 degrees, the obscuration pattern that we cause by looking at the diamond) and the red, there is also lesser, but also important, contrast between the red and green. It is the contrast patterns that make our eyes happy. If the diamond just returned 100% of all the same lighting we would call them mirrors and quickly be bored with seeing whether or not we had shaved when we looked at our rings, or worse, whether we had an embarrassing blemish upon our fair faces.

From the information we have here, we can make guesses for you, but we can not tell you which is the right diamond for YOU. for this, you must see the diamonds.

Wink

 

[inkwell]

Wink, thank you that was very informative. I did not know I could have them sent to an appraiser for a personal viewing. Does the client generally pay for this? Any idea what standard cost would be? Does the client generally propose an appraiser or does the vendor?

Thank you!

(PS: I would also be thrilled to hear your impressions from the limited photos/specs provided in this post! )

 

[WinkHPD]

Wink, thank you that was very informative. I did not know I could have them sent to an appraiser for a personal viewing. Does the client generally pay for this? Any idea what standard cost would be? Does the client generally propose an appraiser or does the vendor?

Thank you!

(PS: I would also be thrilled to hear your impressions from the limited photos/specs provided in this post! )

You are very welcome.

As a trades member, I am not allowed, nor should I be, to comment on the diamonds that you are looking at. If you go to the resources tab at the top of each page you can search for an appraiser in your area. I do not know what the fees will be, they vary from appraiser to appraiser, and you may or may not be liable for the postage to and from the appraiser also, depending on the vendor you are using. Some of us pay the postage, some of us do not.

The good thing about using a recognized appraiser is that you should not have to pay for the diamond up front to have it sent for you to look at, other than the possible shipping and insurance fees.

You are doing your homework, and it is clear that you are wanting to give the best possible diamond to the lady you love. So while this step will slightly increase your costs, the peace of mind of KNOWING you have made the right choice for YOU is well worth it in my opinion.

Wink

 

[egemnoel]

Hi Inkwell,

I had the same problem as you and wanted the best but was unable to see the diamonds IRL. I will save you a lot of trouble as I hired two highly recommended diamond consultants and both agreed on the same CBI diamond as being the best out of a list of 11.

Have a read at this.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/crafted-by-infinity-wink-hpd-leon-mege-why.212187/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/crafted-by-infinity-wink-hpd-leon-mege-why.212187/[/URL]

The best part is in years to come if you ever decide to upgrade you will get 100% of what you originally paid. Not only do you get the best diamond you have a bullet proof upgrade policy and an 80% LIFETIME buy back. Now do the sums, buying is the easy part - go try selling a diamond to the public or trade and you’re lucky to get 40% of what you paid.

You also won’t have to worry about hearts and arrow not being perfect when you see the CBI images (and this is only a small part of makes an amazing diamond.) Choose you diamond wisely but also put in the same amount of effort in choosing your vendor.

Also I don't like having to dig through pages and pages of 1.0 CT - 1.20 CT diamonds on some website, they have 1500+ listed in different combinations. I want a diamond that is crafted in small quantities to the highest of standards and complete confidence I am buying the best.

Good Luck!