Down to 2 GIA cert diamonds. HELP!

[jasper22]

So after months of research and a few trips to local stores with my girlfriend I went to pick a loose stone by myself at a reputable store in the ny/nj area. He showed me 6. It was very overwhelming, but I narrowed it down to 2. I just can't decide between the two! I'm comfortable with both prices. Any input is much appreciated.

1:
Round
6.03x6.07×3.73
.83, H, VS1, Excellent
Polish: excellent
Symmetry: very good
Fluorescence: none
Table: 57
Depth : 61.7
Crown: 35.5
Pavilion: 41
Cutlet: very small
$4000

2:
Round
6.14x6.16x3.71
.84, H, SI2 (looked eye clean in my limited experience), Excellent
Polish: excellent
Symmetry: excellent
Fluorescence: none
Table: 60
Depth: 60.3
Crown: 32.5
Pavilion: 41.6
Cutlet: none
$3250

 

[blingbuyer]

the first one seems to have the better specs. i dont think anyone will be able to truly tell you without idealscope pics. Is the jeweler able to provide them?

btw where did you look? I just finished my search in the ny/nj area myself.

 

[jasper22]

I'm not aware of any idealscope images. Aside from the obvious difference of VS1 and SI2, I was wondering if there were any advantages of one over the other

This jeweler is in Westwood nj. Have also looked in Yorktown heights in westchester and nanuet in rockland.

 

[canvasback]

Stone 2 is a 60/60 stone. You should be able to find a better performer in your price range.

You're extremely fortunate to be located in a state with both Good Old Gold and Brilliantly Engaged. Take a trip over to GOG and let them teach you all you need to know about diamonds.

 

[jasper22]

What's the downside of a 60/60 stone? Would the first stone be a better purchase in your opinion?

 

[canvasback]

What's the downside of a 60/60 stone? Would the first stone be a better purchase in your opinion?

I'm still a newbie but I will tell you what I've experienced. The downside to a 60/60 stone to me is the "fire" aspect. I like a smaller table on a stone, that flashes back a lot of colored AND white light.

Generally, 60/60 stones are spready stones that look whiter, but generally lack the fire a stone with better (to me) proportions has.



In regards to your first stone, I really need more details. An ASET and idealscope image would be ideal.

 

[jasper22]

Unfortunately no ASAP or idealscope but I have all the specs on the GIA cert

 

[blingbuyer]

Unfortunately no ASAP or idealscope but I have all the specs on the GIA cert

Without pictures, folks can only give advice based on which specs are better. And really just because the specs are better it doesn't necessarily mean the stone will be better. Which is why folks would really need a picture to assist.

I would suggest reaching out to Brilliantly engaged(in nyc) and good old gold(on long island) and send them your specs and ask of they have anything better in your price range. they can both let you see them in person as well as provide aset/idealscope images.

If they cant find anything better, then go with the one you have. Otherwise, maybe you will find something better!

Good luck!

 

[jasper22]

Is a 60/60 stone generally a good or bad thing? Not familiar with the term.

I guess my main question is aside from the steps in clarity, is everything else negligible or am I missing something? In person I didn't see much of a difference.

As far as more stores, I think I'm all shopped out and my girlfriend loves a particular setting here.

 

[blingbuyer]

Is a 60/60 stone generally a good or bad thing? Not familiar with the term.

I guess my main question is aside from the steps in clarity, is everything else negligible or am I missing something? In person I didn't see much of a difference.

As far as more stores, I think I'm all shopped out and my girlfriend loves a particular setting here.

i think the challenge is that in most jewelry stores, its difficult to see much of a difference due to the lighting they have. Even though there could be major differences in the way the stone performs. Im a newbie myself and went through the same thing. it wasn't until i started reading up that i realized i could find a way to differentiate between stones when i couldn't just by looking at then at a jeweler.

The reason folks try to get the stats within a certain range is because that increases the chances of having a better performing stone. from what i understand 60/60 simply arent within those ranges which reduces the chances of it being a high performing stone.

more info.
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/60-60-proportioned-diamond

If you could provide the GIA cert numbers i think folks may be able to give you a little more feedback.

But as most folks will tell you, your eyes are the best judge. So if you looked at both and didn't see a difference(assuming you looked at them in different types of lighting), then make the choice you are comfortable with.

You could always get it appraised(by an independent appraiser) afterwards to confirm its value.

Good Luck!

 

[jasper22]

Thanks for the info! After reading the article it looks like 2 things have to be taken into consideration in regards to a 60/60 stone: girdle and pavilion angle.

Girdle should be ok as it is med - slightly thick. The pavilion angle of 41.6 is a little bit out of the article's sweet spot of 40.2 - 41.2. In the images at the bottom I guess it would be most similar to the second from the right. I don't know what that picture really means. Maybe some one can weigh in.

Cert numbers (same as report number?)
1: 6157960048
2: 2151866934