Does this round brilliant possess Hearts and Arrows?

[Diamond2014]

Does this round brilliant possess Hearts and Arrows? Or Hearts and Arrows is just just a diamond model (similar to car model)?

Can it possess Hearts and Arrows and never being called Hearts and Arrows?

Bought it from BN, they dont categorize Hearts and Arrows and such

 

[Diamondbug]

You can probably see hearts and arrow pattern but is not considered a true heart and arrows because it needs to be perfect symmetry to be considered H&A diamond.

 

[MelisendeDiamonds]

Does this round brilliant possess Hearts and Arrows? Or Hearts and Arrows is just just a diamond model (similar to car model)?

Hearts and arrows as viewed through a scope is a result of optical symmetry and cutting at tolk proportions. Your diamond is cut to Tolk proportions.

Can it possess Hearts and Arrows and never being called Hearts and Arrows?

All diamonds with these proportions will show this pattern it is just a matter of how "perfect" the hearts and the arrows are which is a result of the cutting precision leading to optical symmetry. The only way to tell is to view it through one of those scopes.

Bought it from BN, they dont categorize Hearts and Arrows and such

There isn't an industry standard for Hearts and Arrows and as such most vendors do not provide such images.
With the exception of HRD no reputable lab grades hearts and arrows.

 

[WinkHPD]

Does this round brilliant possess Hearts and Arrows? Or Hearts and Arrows is just just a diamond model (similar to car model)?

Can it possess Hearts and Arrows and never being called Hearts and Arrows?

Bought it from BN, they dont categorize Hearts and Arrows and such

It is entirely possible that this diamond does exhibit a Hearts and Arrows pattern. It is also entirely possible that it does not. There really is no way to know by looking at the Diamond Grading Report.

I have seen AGS 0 cut diamonds with virtually no H&A pattern and I have, long ago, owned a diamond that exhibited a very nice H&A pattern that was well outside the parameters for an ideal cut diamond. I bought it on a trip to Belgium from a cutter who had once worked for Hearts on Fire and who cut it as a lark, just to prove it could be done.

I bought it as it was priced right and I got an excellent GIA report on it when I returned to the States as it got the high side of both color and clarity grades that I was hoping for, so it sold quickly. (For the most part, at least back then, when I traveled to Antwerp I rarely saw a diamond with any diamond grading report. I had to make my own estimates of grades, usually with a loupe, and then hold my breath until the GIA reports came back. I won more than I lost, so I kept going back every couple of years. Eventually I met Paul Slegers of Crafted by Infinity and now I no longer need to go to Antwerp, although I love doing so for the camaraderie, the beer, and the incredible chocolates.)

I can tell you this though. Even with its very nice H&A image, it did not look nearly as good as a properly cut diamond that did not exhibit the H&A pattern. It was far enough out of the norms that much of the light going into the diamond was not coming back to the eye of the beholder. Next to itself it was a very pretty diamond. Next to a true ideal cut, it was just lacking that extra something.

I would love to see it next to some of the top diamonds cut today as that would be a stunning visual proof that the H&A image alone is NOT enough to guarantee superior performance. It really is the whole package, proper angles, and superior focus on proper size and placement of all of the major and minor facets to insure the maximum light performance. The more precisely the facets are placed, the larger, sharper and crisper the virtual facets will be and thus also the flashes of both white and colored light that result from the superior combination of precise facet placement and proper angles.

That is why, in "blind taste tests" in which multiple diamonds are placed in a slotted tray with nothing being said about the diamonds that the best cut diamonds nearly always will be chosen as the prettiest diamond.

Short answer: Maybe yes, maybe even probably yes for at least a good pattern, but also maybe no, maybe even probably no for anything resembling what one of the top vendors of such diamonds would consider allowing to represent their brand. Without seeing the scope images, it is really just a guess, and you will be wanting more than just our guesses.

Wink

 

[Stalecupcake]

I have a AGS 0 ideal cut diamond and there were parameters outside that has the hearts and arrows patterning. We chose this from Whiteflash as a virtual selection and when it was brought in and viewed under a Hearts scope, everyone was surprised it has such great patterning! So yes it is possible that a stone that isn't branded h&a to have hearts and arrows but ours was purely by chance and was so mug cheaper because it wasn't branded as such!

 

[Diamond_Hawk]

Without seeing the scope images, it is really just a guess, and you will be wanting more than just our guesses.

This is a great reason to seek out some scientific images... we could tell you much more if you can get them.

 

[Diamond2014]

Thank you for your reply. I do not have the Hearts & Arrows Scope. I just have the Ideal-Scope and Aset Scope available, amateur images as attached:

 

[MelisendeDiamonds]

Does this round brilliant possess Hearts and Arrows? Or Hearts and Arrows is just just a diamond model (similar to car model)?

Can it possess Hearts and Arrows and never being called Hearts and Arrows?

Bought it from BN, they dont categorize Hearts and Arrows and such

Short answer yes it does.
But an Idealscope and ASET will not tell you how good the optical symmetry is you would need and HA scope and to unset the diamond.

You don't need hearts and arrows, and many consumers would not be able to tell the difference between your diamond with or without perfect hearts and arrows.