Does this diamond seem small for the carat weight?

[zomby woof]

It is a 2.20ct RB, and the measurements are 8.23*8.31*5.16. This seems a little small to me, am I mistaken? Also, there is a larger discrepancy between the first two measurements than I have seen in other stones. Does this mean it''s lopsided? It does get an Excellent mark for symmetry. Thanks for the help.

 

[MichelleCarmen]

In doing a quick PS search, it does seem the 8.23 measurement is a bit on the small size.

Here are some ideal-cut measurements:

2.20 G VS2 62.1% 56% AGS m-m no id id ft 8.3x8.38x5.19 $13686 $30110*SP
2.20 G VS2 62.1% 56% AGS no id id ft 8.38*8.30*5.19 $14007 $30816
2.20 G VS2 62.1% 56% AGS m no id id ft 8.38-8.30x5.19 $14090 $30997*SP

There is also a discrepency with these measurements, as well, and they''re considered ideal so that may not be as big of an issue. What is the price of the stone you''re looking at? Is it comparable to the three listed above here?

 

[zomby woof]

The price is less, $28,970. Could that be why it''s cheaper?

 

[lesco]

Does the stone have a thick girdle? That might be why you see a tad of a difference in the measurements.

 

[zomby woof]

The girdle is thin. Should I just pass on this stone?

 

[lesco]

Do you have the rest of the measurements? with those, the experts could give you a more informed opinion.

ETA
You need these
Total Depth:
Table Size:
Crown Angle:
Pavilion Angle:

 

[neatfreak]

It seems pretty out of round to me, that might be why it is quite a bit cheaper. Those two measurements should be as close as possible which means the stone is round.

 

[Rhea]

It''s no more out of round than the ideals that MC listed though.

 

[heb1976]

Date: 5/17/2008 7:23:58 PM
Author: MC
In doing a quick PS search, it does seem the 8.23 measurement is a bit on the small size.

Here are some ideal-cut measurements:

2.20 G VS2 62.1% 56% AGS m-m no id id ft 8.3x8.38x5.19 $13686 $30110*SP
2.20 G VS2 62.1% 56% AGS no id id ft 8.38*8.30*5.19 $14007 $30816
2.20 G VS2 62.1% 56% AGS m no id id ft 8.38-8.30x5.19 $14090 $30997*SP

There is also a discrepency with these measurements, as well, and they''re considered ideal so that may not be as big of an issue. What is the price of the stone you''re looking at? Is it comparable to the three listed above here?

If I''m not mistaken those are for the exact same diamond the three vendors are listing. The diamond I am purchasing had the same thing, listed from 5 different vendors all with the same GIA number as mine. Mine is hundreds cheaper though!

 

[neatfreak]

Date: 5/17/2008 8:02:00 PM
Author: Addy
It''s no more out of round than the ideals that MC listed though.

MC listed only one stone but at different vendors. I''m not sure that this one we are talking about is ideal. It''s still out of round, which might lower the price.

 

[JulieN]

It is not out-of-round.

 

[neatfreak]

Date: 5/17/2008 9:12:39 PM
Author: JulieN
It is not out-of-round.

It is more out of round than similar super ideal cuts out there. In the scheme of things it might not be bad, but it is certainly a bit more than super ideals are.

 

[neatfreak]

And yes, I think it's a bit small. Here is one at Good Old Gold that is only 2.09 and is similar sized. And if you aren't scared to go to an H, it's way cheaper too!

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4273/

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 5/17/2008 7:32:58 PM
Author: zomby woof
The price is less, $28,970. Could that be why it''s cheaper?

color? clarity? lab report?

 

[strmrdr]

8.23*8.31 is not out of round period.

it is less than .1 of a mm and more importantly less than .01 percent.
That said the c/p angle combo is more important than a few tenths of a mm in spread.
Without those numbers there is no way to tell what is up with this diamond compared to any other.
Frankly the obsession with spread in a diamond can be taken to dangerous levels.
What matters is the angles and then the girdle based on setting type it is going into.

 

[arjunajane]

Without those numbers there is no way to tell what is up with this diamond compared Date: 5/18/2008 3:19:54 AM
Author: strmrdr
8.23*8.31 is not out of round period.

it is less than .1 of a mm and more importantly less than .01 percent.
That said the c/p angle combo is more important than a few tenths of a mm in spread.
to any other.
Frankly the obsession with spread in a diamond can be taken to dangerous levels.
What matters is the angles and then the girdle based on setting type it is going into.

strm, would you mind to advise on the girdle on this stone - I am unclear how to understand when they are in %
I will be getting 4 prong so just wanted to check

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3334/

tia, and sorry for the slight thread jack

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 5/18/2008 3:45:50 AM
Author: arjunajane
strm, would you mind to advise on the girdle on this stone - I am unclear how to understand when they are in %
I will be getting 4 prong so just wanted to check

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3334/

tia, and sorry for the slight thread jack

right on the edge of med.
Should be fine for the average person someone who is hard on rings might consider a thicker girdle.
Keep in mind that luck plays a part also, a hit that takes out a med. might also take out a v-thick.
That is what insurance is for.

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 5/18/2008 3:58:10 AM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 5/18/2008 3:45:50 AM
Author: arjunajane
strm, would you mind to advise on the girdle on this stone - I am unclear how to understand when they are in %
I will be getting 4 prong so just wanted to check

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3334/

tia, and sorry for the slight thread jack

right on the edge of med.
Should be fine for the average person someone who is hard on rings might consider a thicker girdle.
Keep in mind that luck plays a part also, a hit that takes out a med. might also take out a v-thick.
That is what insurance is for.

yeah I''m in the process of seeking out insurance at the moment, but unfortunately in Australia we don''t have any co''s that offer a stand alone jewellery policy

ok thanks for the info - just to clarify when you say "on the edge" do you mean thin-med or med-thick?
cheers strm!

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 5/18/2008 4:23:32 AM
Author: arjunajane

yeah I''m in the process of seeking out insurance at the moment, but unfortunately in Australia we don''t have any co''s that offer a stand alone jewellery policy

ok thanks for the info - just to clarify when you say ''on the edge'' do you mean thin-med or med-thick?
cheers strm!

thin-med

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 5/18/2008 9:19:52 AM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 5/18/2008 4:23:32 AM
Author: arjunajane

yeah I''m in the process of seeking out insurance at the moment, but unfortunately in Australia we don''t have any co''s that offer a stand alone jewellery policy

ok thanks for the info - just to clarify when you say ''on the edge'' do you mean thin-med or med-thick?
cheers strm!

thin-med

Thanks for clarifying