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Do many stores in USA stock EGL non USA stones?

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Garry H (Cut Nut)

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I would like some help please from all my American friends.

EGL USA (and Canada) has a better reputation than EGL in Europe and Israel. I would like to know if there are many EGL Non USA graed diamonds out there in US and Canadian jewelry stores.

You could just look in their windows, or ask the sales people for me please?

You will find a large number of IGI stones. But for my purpose (that will be revealed next week) - I really need to know if there are many non USA EGL stones floating about and on offer in your neck of the woods?

(I am an Australian, so can not easily do this myself).
 
I have seen a fair amount of EGL Israel graded diamonds being sold in our Commonwealth of Massachusetts, mostly by local independent retailers.
Unscientific survey and just an observation.

www.metrojewelryappraisers.com
 
Yes Iv seen some.
A couple stores all they carry is egl and gia and the egl is a mix of the various egl labs.

another orders from stullers when he needs diamonds and they are often egl and there have been some non-usa in the bunch.

IGI is more common than EGL
 
Garry,
I recently previewed a diamond that had an EGL cert with a cert number that began with AW (is that Antwerp?)...it was a stone purchased in the US.

-David
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Many.

I see them on a nearly daily basis. There are dealers around here who seem to specialize in them. I see them quite a bit more than IGI although this is surely colored by the presence of IGI in the mass merchandise type stores and customers who are inclined to buy a wedding ring from Sears seem to be less inclined to be willing to pay for an appraisal than those who shop with 'wholesalers' or other specialty diamond sources.

Neil Beaty
GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA
Professional Appraisals in Denver
 
I found that the inventory was pretty consistent by vendor; if they carried GIA they carried pretty much only GIA (with a *few* AGS or EGL--not sure which lab--mixed in). But if they carried strictly EGL is was almost across the board only EGL Israel. I really didn't run across any IGI when I was looking but I did run into a couple of HRDs.
 
I went to a local store to get my girlfriends ring size. He pulled out diamonds from EGL Israel and said that he gets his diamonds right from the source - like it was a big deal and I should be happy. The Sarin report said it was Ideal Cut / SI2 / E color. I must say that it was a very nice eye clean SI2. But I didn''t buy it. I told him if I do buy an EGL I would want David Atlas to review it. He looked like he swallowed a lemon after I said that... but they are around in Philadelphia.
 
HI:

From a consumers perspective in my recent 10 month diamond hunt for an upgrade, if I saw any EGL certed stones, they were from "USA" exclusively. Vast majority were GIA and AGS. Oh, and I am Canadian.

cheers--Sharon
 
Garry, you'll see other EGL origins in neighborhood/city jewelry stores all the time. Dozens of dealers in the US are from Israel. They bring goods over and put them in the pipeline. Among local jewelers selling to the public I’d estimate 30% of inventory is EGL graded and many of those documents are EGL-Israel.

The established chains/mall stores usually have controlled inventory, so origins are more consistent. Depending on which store you’re in, IGI and EGL-USA are plentiful. You can find a peppering of other EGL origins.

We know a local guy who moved here from India. He brings in big, ungraded 1-2ct SI2-I1s by the truckload. He sells to jewelry stores and can’t sell them fast enough. Bob Hoskins was telling me that half of all diamonds in the US are currently coming from India.

The commercial markets I'm talking about are much different than PS.
 
Thank you all for that.

I am making a new type of study on labs and that information is very useful.

I will release the format in a few days in the form of a small journal article.

Thanks again for your time and efforts
 
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