Diamond Suggestion

[OptimusPrime]

Hi Everyone,

I’ve been educating myself on here for a couple of weeks now and have narrowed down my search to the following diamonds.

I am contemplating whether it’s worth getting a premium diamond from either white flash or Brian Gavin or to find an unbranded diamond with similar proportions. I have the following diamonds in mind:

Diamond | 1.717 ct F VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4339733

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.717 carat F color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4339733

www.whiteflash.com

1.717ct F VS2 $30,672 AUD
D-61.7%
T-56.7%
CA-34.7
PA-40.7
Star-53%
LG-77%

1.668 G VS1 Signature Round

Buy diamonds online - AGS Graded 1.668 carat G VS1 super ideal cut Black By Brian Gavin Round Cut diamond. Lifetime Upgrade Policy!

www.briangavindiamonds.com

1.668ct G VS1
D-61.2
T-56.1
CA-34.6
PA-40.8
Star-52
LG-77

The following diamonds are all GIA XXX unbranded diamonds that I could find across the web:

option 1 $28,331 AUD
1.59ct E VS2
D-61.2
T-57
CA-34.5
PA-40.8
Star-55
LG-75

option 2 $28,700 AUD
1.78ct D VS2
D-61.9
T-56
CA-35
PA-40.8
Star-50
LG-75

option 3 $24,256 AUD
1.7ct F VS2
D-61.7
T-58
CA-35
PA-40.6
Star-50
LG-80

Option 4 $27,727 AUD
1.65ct F VS1
D-62
T-57
CA-34.5
PA-40.8
Star-55
LG-75

I would like to hear your thoughts on the above or if you recommend any similar diamonds.

Thanks in advance

 

[lovedogs]

For the virtual stones (non branded) we would need to see pictures/videos. The nice thing about BGD and WF is that you know you are getting the absolutely best cut. GIA rounds their numbers so you can't count on the numbers being exactly as stated (e.g. numbers are "averages"). WF and BGD use AGS which is more precise in how they measure stuff. Virtual stones don't usually have ASETs or IS images, which is another downside. However, some do and are great.

WHat is your budget and desired color, clarity, and size? I can try to find alternatives that are unbranded.

Both diamonds that are branded will be lovely. My perosnal preference is WF because they have a $1 upgrade policy whereas BGD does not (and neither do any of the other vendors with unbranded stones). The only other vendor to my knowledge with a $1 upgrade policy is High Performance Diamonds (also has branded stones and is as good as WF and BGD)

 

[OptimusPrime]

For the virtual stones (non branded) we would need to see pictures/videos. The nice thing about BGD and WF is that you know you are getting the absolutely best cut. GIA rounds their numbers so you can't count on the numbers being exactly as stated (e.g. numbers are "averages"). WF and BGD use AGS which is more precise in how they measure stuff. Virtual stones don't usually have ASETs or IS images, which is another downside. However, some do and are great.

WHat is your budget and desired color, clarity, and size? I can try to find alternatives that are unbranded.

Both diamonds that are branded will be lovely. My perosnal preference is WF because they have a $1 upgrade policy whereas BGD does not (and neither do any of the other vendors with unbranded stones). The only other vendor to my knowledge with a $1 upgrade policy is High Performance Diamonds (also has branded stones and is as good as WF and BGD)

Thanks for your response. The unbranded ones are all eye clean. The reason why I didn’t post links was to see if the performance of the diamond can be estimated just by reading those proportions as that’s all I can judge on when picking my own unbranded diamonds as to me, the photos/videos all look the same in terms of the performance at this range of proportions.

My budget is 25k - 30k aud (preferably closer to 25k if it’s unbranded for the similar carat size as above)

Size > 1.5ct
Color = G+
Clarity = VS2+

Thanks

 

[munchee]

Thanks for your response. The unbranded ones are all eye clean. The reason why I didn’t post links was to see if the performance of the diamond can be estimated just by reading those proportions as that’s all I can judge on when picking my own unbranded diamonds as to me, the photos/videos all look the same in terms of the performance at this range of proportions.

My budget is 25k - 30k aud (preferably closer to 25k if it’s unbranded for the similar carat size as above)

Size > 1.5ct
Color = G+
Clarity = VS2+

Thanks

The reason we need to see pictures is because we need to see if there’s leak. How the arrows look and all. Not just about inclusion. I don’t think anyone should buy a diamond based on numbers. Every diamond is different so the picture shouldn’t look the same.

 

[lovedogs]

The reason we need to see pictures is because we need to see if there’s leak. How the arrows look and all. Not just about inclusion. I don’t think anyone should buy a diamond based on numbers. Every diamond is different so the picture shouldn’t look the same.

This 100%. You can't choose a diamond based on numbers alone. You need to see actual images.

 

[lovedogs]

There are unbranded options from James Allen that are AGS certified and look good, but they are on par in price to WF so not worth it IMHO.

EDIT. This one is cheaper https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...ferral&utm_campaign=earthdiamonds-ps&a_aid=ps

As long as it's eyeclean it looks nice

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I personally would choose the Whiteflash stone, because to me, knowing I am getting a top cut diamond really puts my mind at ease when buying online. Not to mention, all the other stones likely do not have ASET images to show the light return and cut characteristics. As the others have said, the minimum required for GIA stones would be photos and video.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

There are unbranded options from James Allen that are AGS certified and look good, but they are on par in price to WF so not worth it IMHO.

EDIT. This one is cheaper https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...ferral&utm_campaign=earthdiamonds-ps&a_aid=ps

As long as it's eyeclean it looks nice

It's SI1, though.

 

[lovedogs]

It's SI1, though.

Totally agree and I would personally choose the WF 100%. But at least it's one that has extra images and is non branded so I think it's an ok option. But still, for this much $$ I'd want the best possible cut.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Totally agree and I would personally choose the WF 100%. But at least it's one that has extra images and is non branded so I think it's an ok option. But still, for this much $$ I'd want the best possible cut.

I think we 100% agree. You are absolutely right that it's better to have what JA offers in terms of images over the others just with numbers. I just think SI1 inclusions are risky when ordering internationally, and I think he is aiming for VS+ anyway. Just wanted to clarify what I meant about SI1!

 

[lovedogs]

I think we 100% agree. You are absolutely right that it's better to have what JA offers in terms of images over the others just with numbers. I just think SI1 inclusions are risky when ordering internationally, and I think he is aiming for VS+ anyway. Just wanted to clarify what I meant about SI1!

oh yeah haha, totally agree.