Diamond Reset?

[geckodani]

Ah boo on the Scholdt setting. If you wanna go custom, I second, third, quadrillionth suggest BGD.

 

[geckodani]

Cehra, what about something like this?

 

[Cehrabehra]

I agree that Brian is gifted and I would love to support his work. I was a bit put off that his phone quote (low) and leslie''s email quote (high - more than double) on something else were so far off from one another and I didn''t know what to say or do about that. I haven''t contacted them since though I harbor no ill feelings toward Brian and I don''t know leslie at all.

 

[Cehrabehra]

Layla - your pendant is amazing and it''s really amazing how close the cad and the end result are - you definitely know what you''re getting with that!! I don''t know if I can afford BGD right now. The stuller piece was 1k and I can pull 1k out but I would bet a BGD piece would be at least double that.

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 11/3/2009 9:22:29 AM
Author: geckodani
Cehra, what about something like this?

Hi I''ve looked at these, and yes you are definitely on the right track! I think my stone is too big - that would be a huge ring to have the split prongs go all the way out to the corners like that on a 9.5+ length.

It''s funny - while ocean had my stone and was making my ring I found this ring (another sholdt) that has still some of the qualities I like (a band sits flush with it) but I decided this setting really suited a round better unless I put my stone east/west (the ONE thing my husband has an opinion on is keeping it n/s).

 

[geckodani]

Date: 11/3/2009 10:26:37 AM
Author: Cehrabehra

Date: 11/3/2009 9:22:29 AM
Author: geckodani
Cehra, what about something like this?

Hi I've looked at these, and yes you are definitely on the right track! I think my stone is too big - that would be a huge ring to have the split prongs go all the way out to the corners like that on a 9.5+ length.

It's funny - while ocean had my stone and was making my ring I found this ring (another sholdt) that has still some of the qualities I like (a band sits flush with it) but I decided this setting really suited a round better unless I put my stone east/west (the ONE thing my husband has an opinion on is keeping it n/s).

I almost suggested that one too, LOL!

I've got a Scott Kay that has a pretty open profile, but the cathedral sides might come up too high for you. https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/scott-kay-palladium-setting-has-arrived.98180/

 

[DianaBanana]

Date: 11/3/2009 10:17:31 AM
Author: Cehrabehra
Layla - your pendant is amazing and it''s really amazing how close the cad and the end result are - you definitely know what you''re getting with that!! I don''t know if I can afford BGD right now. The stuller piece was 1k and I can pull 1k out but I would bet a BGD piece would be at least double that.

I''ll ditto the recommendation for BGD...my center stone came from them and they are putting together a pair of martinis for me now...woot woot!!

I had Lesley quote their Truth setting in platinum and I believe it was $1450 for the plain shank and $2150 for the fishtail pave...even though I went a different route for the setting, I thought the prices were great.

 

[decodelighted]

Cehra,

Three vendors, three sketches? There aren''t three vendors you''d even wanna work with ... c''mon now. Just pick the pictures out that are closest to the STOCK setting you''d be happiest with (Sholdt) -- email them to Brian & Lesley and say 1) Budget is $1500 max 2) Can you make something like this in ___ timeframe. End of story. No its not the 1K stock setting BUT you can do $500 more to get a few modifications (2mm? Higher set?)

If we start hearing about Gothic arches & stuff we are getting OFF TRACK on *this* project. Then its not a modification of a stock setting -- its a full-on Custom Situation which you want to AVOID before your trip. Lets just not go down that road right now.

I don''t think ANYONE would suggest THAT road right now. Its a shades of gray thing. This is more of a *replica* than a *custom*. Keep thinking of it that way & it''ll keep you focused. (If your decide to go that route).

Or keep on keepin on with the search for stock settings. Get gettin'' Purple, lady!

 

[TravelingGal]

Date: 11/2/2009 5:15:42 PM
Author: Lynn B

Date: 11/2/2009 4:21:39 PM
Author: TravelingGal
I don''t think just ''anyone'' could make that Boston Jeff/Leon solitaire. I do think, however that a few PS vendors have done renditions that are just as lovely.

Cehra, sit on it for awhile. Does Ocean know the ring she made for you doesn''t make you happy? Anything she could do for you?

Before you go custom again, maybe buy a cheaper, white gold stock setting that comes close to what you want to see if you like how your stone performs. You''ve changed your mind so many times in the past, it''s actually hard to say what the best course of action might be here.

I do agree, your stone deserves a setting that will let it do its thing.

Well, if you were referring to my comment, TGal, I certainly didn''t mean ''anyone'' in the general sense, of course! I wouldn''t count on Kays or Zales or XYZ Jewelers and Transmissions down the block to be able to do it and do it well. I meant (and apparently thought it went without saying) that there were (are) PS vendors who could absolutely turn out as lovely a rendition, and I see that we agree on that!

Yup, we do agree. I was just clarifying as Cehra hasn''t had the best luck with custom.

Cehra, I agree with Deco. You don''t need yet another thread on your ring with a thousand vaccillations. Just show the setting you want to three vendors and ask if there is anything they can do. If they can''t, you move on and go to Plan B (whatever that is). I know from the past you seek warm and fuzzy when doing business with a PS vendor, but that didn''t work out too well for ya. Now pick someone who can get the job DONE.

 

[decodelighted]

Saw this setting posted on BGD''s blog today ... I know it''s not QUITE as bare on the sides as you''d ideally want but its *close* to bare. Perhaps as bare as an setting for a stone your size *should* be. Anyway -- thought it would be worth looking at. Check out their blog if you want more views. The recipient has done a whole scrapbook''s worth of pictures of it!

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 11/3/2009 6:26:54 PM
Author: decodelighted
Saw this setting posted on BGD''s blog today ... I know it''s not QUITE as bare on the sides as you''d ideally want but its *close* to bare. Perhaps as bare as an setting for a stone your size *should* be. Anyway -- thought it would be worth looking at. Check out their blog if you want more views. The recipient has done a whole scrapbook''s worth of pictures of it!

I saw that today deco and it is similar to something I was thinking about just yesterday actually... with the main prongs being V shaped (dare I mention gothic arches? ::gasp

but instead of chevrons having a low swoop, a curve as the second bar.

Another idea would be to do some sort of splitshanky type bars that come up and brace the corners.

Whose ring is that?

 

[Lynn B]

OK, Sara, how about something like this? I know you've got a cushion, not a RB, but I'll bet there's some creative way to make a setting something like this work for you. Look at the beautiful bare sides... no bars!

It's BGD's "Martini" setting. VERY cool!

 

[Lynn B]

Or this (ignore the pave band, I'm sure that's changeable!) the BGD "Novela". Look Ma, no bars!!!

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 11/3/2009 7:43:55 PM
Author: Lynn B
OK, Sara, how about something like this? I know you've got a cushion, not a RB, but I'll bet there's some creative way to make a setting something like this work for you. Look at the beautiful bare sides... no bars!


It's BGD's 'Martini' setting. VERY cool!

I saw that! I love me some naked diamond!! how on earth could that work for a cushion though??

 

[Cehrabehra]

this one is nice - if if if I could work this iwth a stone my size, very few mods would need to be taken!

 

[Cehrabehra]

oooh I like this!!! I know these are earrings but I wonder if something could be done??

 

[geckodani]

Date: 11/3/2009 8:08:31 PM
Author: Cehrabehra
this is the earrings from the above post - I couldn''t go back and attach this.

I betcha they could! And that would be fab! Wonderfully fluid goodness.

 

[decodelighted]

See!! I thought they'd be a good match for your tastes (& temperament!) There's grace and flow & fluidity & arches & cr*p all over the darn place.

And -- Brian's a Cutter! He may not have cut *your* stone, but all that ooey-gooey artistry could be packed into your setting at NO EXTRA CHARGE.

ETA: And if you're still worried about the price discrepancy on your earlier quote, I'd offer this interpretation: Brian thinks "wholesale", Lesley thinks "retail". She's the business end of the beast, know what I mean? That sounded bad maybe.

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 11/4/2009 12:13:39 AM
Author: decodelighted
See!! I thought they''d be a good match for your tastes (& temperament!) There''s grace and flow & fluidity & arches & cr*p all over the darn place.

And -- Brian''s a Cutter! He may not have cut *your* stone, but all that ooey-gooey artistry could be packed into your setting at NO EXTRA CHARGE.

ETA: And if you''re still worried about the price discrepancy on your earlier quote, I''d offer this interpretation: Brian thinks ''wholesale'', Lesley thinks ''retail''. She''s the business end of the beast, know what I mean? That sounded bad maybe.

No, I know what you mean... Brian also thinks, "oh I have known you a long time Cehrabehra" and Leslie thinks, "I don''t know you" lol

 

[Phoenix]

Sara,

I love all the BGD designs above.

Just wanted to show you my new-ish reset. As you can see, the head is pretty nikked, no bar...

I'm sure BGD can do any modification of the designs shown, with a nikked head.

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 11/4/2009 8:55:38 AM
Author: Phoenix
Sara,


I love all the BGD designs above.


Just wanted to show you my new-ish reset. As you can see, the head is pretty nikked, no bar...


I''m sure BGD can do any modification of the designs shown, with a nikked head.

phoenix - what do you use for international insurance?

 

[Phoenix]

Sara,

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem that anyone is willing to provide jewellery insurance up to the amount I'd want. AXA, for example, provides coverage only up to RMB50k or was it 80k, I forget. I've also asked around and can't find anyone to do it. My insurer in SG, Chubb, refuses to provide insurance anymore (which used to be an all-risk, worlwide policy) for me since I no longer live in SG.

If you can find one when you're here, pls let me know.

I only have with me what I can actually wear. I don't leave things lying around in the apartment (except for my pearls, which as I said are fairly inexpensive - in comparison). I'm even thinking that I'll leave my 3ct RB in the bank safety deposit box in Singapore next time I go there and wear my pear ring instead. I may also leave my beloved BGD studs in SG and swap them for my newly reset clustered flowered earrings (when they're done by BGD). It's a shame, I know!

But I'm trying to reduce the total amount at risk, actually it'll be halved. Of course if I were to lose those (touch wood - hope that I never will), I'd be devastated but at least the monetary loss would not be as great.

 

[Cehrabehra]

AXA? What is that? I only need insurance to about 20kusd - oh RMB times 7 is what... 140rmb? bah That sucks! Maybe I really should leave the Gem here

DAMN!!!!

 

[Cehrabehra]

I just posted another insurance thread on RT - I coulda sworn there was one recently and I was going to add to it but I cannot find it. Cross your fingers that someone has an idea!

 

[Lynn B]

Date: 11/4/2009 8:55:38 AM
Author: Phoenix
Sara,

I love all the BGD designs above.

Just wanted to show you my new-ish reset. As you can see, the head is pretty nikked, no bar...

I''m sure BGD can do any modification of the designs shown, with a nikked head.

Phoenix,

Who made your "newish" reset? Is there a thread somewhere with more photos?

Lynn

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Sara, I''ve only been to China for two weeks, but honestly, I don''t think I''d be comfortable wearing a large diamond there. Maybe you are going to be removed from typical Chinese society where you''ll be living, and that might make a difference. But considering the pain of insurance, I''d probably leave the diamond here and wear a wedding band over there. And I say that especially because you are probably not going to find a stock setting for that diamond and I simply don''t think you have time to work on a custom project at this point.

One more thing. I can understand your wanting to SEE the stone from the sides, but you know the reflection of light coming from the stone has nothing to do with the sides being concealed or open, right? Just wanted to be sure.

 

[decodelighted]

Date: 11/4/2009 6:31:17 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
I can understand your wanting to SEE the stone from the sides, but you know the reflection of light coming from the stone has nothing to do with the sides being concealed or open, right? Just wanted to be sure.

Are you sure Diamondseeker? That is certainly true for ideal cut rounds ... but leakier stones really do look darker when bezeled ... so wouldn''t the opposite be true if they were more open to light -- brighter?

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 11/4/2009 6:31:17 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Sara, I''ve only been to China for two weeks, but honestly, I don''t think I''d be comfortable wearing a large diamond there. Maybe you are going to be removed from typical Chinese society where you''ll be living, and that might make a difference. But considering the pain of insurance, I''d probably leave the diamond here and wear a wedding band over there. And I say that especially because you are probably not going to find a stock setting for that diamond and I simply don''t think you have time to work on a custom project at this point.


One more thing. I can understand your wanting to SEE the stone from the sides, but you know the reflection of light coming from the stone has nothing to do with the sides being concealed or open, right? Just wanted to be sure.

I am positive that my stone does not act like an ideal cut round. Before it was set (and hanging out in that ridiculously high and open squeezy thing) it reflected colors from the environment like mad. It sparkled like an average cut round and it still does - but the beauty of this stone in particular was not as much in the sparkle as in the refraction of colors that it drew from the environment. When I would take it around to jewelers it would look like an argyle sock just filled with crazy blues and pinks and purples and peaches and teals. If light came from the side it would explode in crazy rainbows - huge rainbows - that didn''t flicker, but lingered. And I''ve never been totally committed to the classic performance of a round. I''d like to get one for a pendant someday, but this stone it didn''t matter to me where the light came from just that it did crazy amazing things with the light and was beautiful to look at from all sides. It doesn''t do that now. All of the ''traditional'' above light does exactly the same thing and sparkles exactly the same way - but what made it not an "eh" cushion but an amazing piece of art were the colors it pulled from everywhere - my hair, my clothes, the sky... and right now what it does is it reflects the metal under it. The big formerly colorful facets now look like mirrors. And they''re not reflecting color - they''re reflecting platinum. It still sparkles and does what it did with the light from above, but what made it really special and breathtaking was what it did with environmental colors and I get none of that. None of it. My experience with rounds in general is they don''t do what mine did and mine didn''t do what they did as well as they did it. totally different performances, but it was what mine did that rounds don''t do that really made me gaga for it. It does a very mediocre job of performing like a round. So while what you say is true about rounds - that''s how they''re designed. I know it could easily be thought of that my diamond is flawed (don''t think that hasn''t occurred to me) but I was always okay with it being crazy beautiful in a non conventional way.

the insurance issue very well may be a dealbreaker. I wouldn''t take it there without it. But do I feel safe with it there? yes. Do I feel safe with it in a safe in my house? not as much. I will be living in a high end compound with round the clock security surrounded by rich vacationing koreans and expat americans primarily and my day to day life will not stray far from that. I will go shopping in the smaller town (2 million) once a week with an ayi, and go downtown sometimes. I don''t know what cities you are in but Dalian is pretty nice. Voted best place to live in China and like I said before, they have issues with pickpocketing but they have very little violent crime like muggings. My main concern with wearing it is simply a) not making people feel inferior because they cannot afford such luxuries and b) not allowing people to feel they can take advantage of me because I could. it is not a safety issue to me, at least not while it is on my finger. But I would like to be able to leave it at home for when I travel away from my comfort zone and I do not feel safe doing so without it insured.

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 11/4/2009 6:34:26 PM
Author: decodelighted

Date: 11/4/2009 6:31:17 PM

Author: diamondseeker2006

I can understand your wanting to SEE the stone from the sides, but you know the reflection of light coming from the stone has nothing to do with the sides being concealed or open, right? Just wanted to be sure.

Are you sure Diamondseeker? That is certainly true for ideal cut rounds ... but leakier stones really do look darker when bezeled ... so wouldn''t the opposite be true if they were more open to light -- brighter?

my stone has pretty good brightness - not quite that of a headlight round, but still pretty good and that aspect of it really isn''t affected by the setting. It''s the other stuff it did that is gone, stuff that in my experience rounds don''t do very well at all.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Date: 11/4/2009 6:34:26 PM
Author: decodelighted

Date: 11/4/2009 6:31:17 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
I can understand your wanting to SEE the stone from the sides, but you know the reflection of light coming from the stone has nothing to do with the sides being concealed or open, right? Just wanted to be sure.

Are you sure Diamondseeker? That is certainly true for ideal cut rounds ... but leakier stones really do look darker when bezeled ... so wouldn''t the opposite be true if they were more open to light -- brighter?

You could be right, Deco. I am not sure with a stone that might be cut differently.