Diamond Help

[isolpj]

Hi all and thanks for the help in advance. I am wondering if the diamond specs below are first and foremost good quality and if the price I was quoted is worth it or not.

Modified rectangular brilliant
6.57 x 5.7 x 3.66 mm
1.33 carat
67.7% depth
62% table
very thin to very thick faceted girdle
Culet - none
Polish - good
symmetry - good
clarity - VS2
Origin - natural
grade - fancy yellow
distribution - even
fluorescence - faint

I appreciate any help that I can get. I really did like the sparkle and the look of the diamond, but I wonder if the price I was quoted is too high.

 

[isolpj]

Sorry... sent that last message off with no price.. the price I was quoted was $6650

thanks!

 

[Rhino]

One thing that throws up a red flag is the *very thin* girdle. I am not saying to reject the stone over this but I would inquire further to find out how much of the girdle is *very thin*. If it is a considerable portion of the diameter then this will be a diamond succeptible to chipping.

 

[WinkHPD]

Who did the cert? Fancy yellow is usually more money than that? Makes me curious about the yellow. Is it a nice rich yellow or a more pale uriny yellow?

Wink

 

[noobie]

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On 5/22/2004 5:11:23 PM Wink wrote:





Is it a nice rich yellow or a more pale uriny yellow?

Wink
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Wink,

I don't think I'll ever be able to look at a yellow diamond in the same way again

. How do you describe the ones with a brown modifying hue?

 

[isolpj]

GIA did the cert. It was more of a lighter yellow. Why would a thin girdle be more succeptible to chipping? Is that true of most cuts?

 

[zeytoun]

Thinner girdles chip more easily because... they are thinner. Just imagine that your girdle is the blade of a knife. A razor sharp blade is more delicate and can be nicked more easily than a dull butter knife edge.

Also.... the specs say that you have a modified rectangular brilliant with, by which I take it to mean that it is a rectangle with cut corners..? A regular rectangle cut is prone to chip on the corners, because the sharper the angle, the more chance of it. A cut cornered rectangular is somewhat safer from chipping because the corners all have more obtuse angels. Or perhaps the corners are more rounded (faceted girdle)...?

 

[isolpj]

Yes, the corners were more rounded than a rectangular cut. I took that to mean less possibility to chipping, however, I am a little worried about the thinness of the girdle. Perhaps I should hold off and locate a thicker girdle diamond with similar specs?

 

[elmo]

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On 5/22/2004 5:11:23 PM Wink wrote:

Who did the cert? Fancy yellow is usually more money than that? Makes me curious about the yellow. Is it a nice rich yellow or a more pale uriny yellow?


Wink----------------

Wink, that's good advice to pay attention to how the stone looks since I think there's more variation between stones graded fancy yellow (or fancy light or fancy intense etc.) than between near colorless stones at one color grade.

But I think that price is consistent with what internet folks that specialize in fancy yellows are selling these at, for example:

1.37 FY SI1 radiant at $5696
1.38 FY SI1 radiant at $5965
1.41 FY VS1 radiant at $6514

They don't look too bad in the photos, several more to choose from near that size. (This is not an endorsement since I haven't purchased from these folks.)

 

[WinkHPD]

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On 5/22/2004 5:52:55 PM noobie wrote:

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On 5/22/2004 5:11:23 PM Wink wrote:





Is it a nice rich yellow or a more pale uriny yellow?


Wink

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Wink,

I don't think I'll ever be able to look at a yellow diamond in the same way again

. How do you describe the ones with a brown modifying hue?

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If it looks like this one, I describe them as beautiful!

Wink

 

[WinkHPD]

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On 5/22/2004 7:44:39 PM isolpj wrote:

GIA did the cert. It was more of a lighter yellow. Why would a thin girdle be more succeptible to chipping? Is that true of most cuts?----------------

Very thin girdles have a greateer possibility of chipping because they can take a blow that receives preassure parallel to the cleavage plain and have less thickness to resist the blow. Over the years I have seen many stones that have suffered the resulting "stair step" cleavage down the pavilion and in some cases up the crown. (Called a stair step because of the steplike nature of the damage as it goes up or down from the girdle.)

Not all of these were stones with thin girdles, but the majority of them were.

If the stone is very attractive and you like the sparkele and the color, then you should buy it. Colored diamonds are much more subject to individual preferences than white diamonds as subtle differences in color can make major differences in how you feel about them.

Wink

 

[pyramid]

A very thin girdle would be thicker than a corner on a princess or rectagular cut would it not?