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That is extremely cheap for a 3 ct J SI2. Is this diamond clarity enhanced? Just curious as to the very very low price. I found one earlier - a non certed F SI2 which was $21k. We always have to bear in mind that no one in the diamond industry - or any industry come to that is giving anthing away and if it was worth more it would have sold for more, but if you like it then yes- you got a good deal.
 
Oh and please, you won''t make me feel bad if you have a criticism by any means. I know it''s not a perfect diamond, VERY few are !! It is a large and pretty stone which is what my Fiance'' wanted (and I wanted too) which is what we got so we are happy. I just wanted to make sure I didn''t get ripped off or anything.
 
No worries Roman! Diamonds should be a source of joy for those who buy them and wear them! Many people walk around with less than perfect diamonds who are ecstatically happy with them and this is what a diamond should be all about! Most people couldn''t care less about the depth or table size of their diamond, whether or not it has a cert, etc etc - they saw a diamond they loved and bought with their eyes. Now we at PS are great enthusiasts about diamonds in general and cut all the way. The very low price you paid makes me wonder if this diamond has been treated or enhanced in any way, but the proportions could be much worse and I am sure it is a very pretty diamond! No matter what, if you and your fiance love this diamond and you are happy with what you paid - then it is priceless no matter if it isn''t what we might choose! We here see the absolute cream of the crop with cut quality diamonds and are spoiled by the cherry proportions, performance and beauty of the diamonds we see posted here every day, it does lead to a good deal of hairsplitting at times, but the folk who are buying these are paying often huge amounts and want the absolute best cut their $$''s can buy, with all the cut quality info etc that comes with it.

But this isn''t the rest of the world! I am sure your diamond is lovely - congratulations!
 
"The very low price you paid makes me wonder if this diamond has been treated or enhanced in any way"

I had a lab do an analysis and they put it though all the gadgets and said it was not drilled, laser treated or anything like that.

If anything like you said it is possible it might be graded lower by someone else which of course if it was a GIA diamond it would be. Let's say it was a K or L with I1 rating would this still be a good price ? I don't know if the grading should be lowered like that but just saying it was, would this still be a fair price.

Again, the stone is very eye clean with the only thing visible upon critical eye examination is a feather.
 
I think assuming it was an L I1 for example, yes it would still be a fair price for what it seems you have. I really think if this is a concern it would be best to get an independant appraisal so you know exactly what you have, anything we say as experienced consumers is speculation and you really need an expert to look at your diamond to give you anything near an experienced and unbiased opinion.
 
Roman, it sounds like a very good price. But since you had it independently appraised, did the appraiser not tell you what the value of the stone is? Hopefully no one pays the inflated amount most appraisers put on an appraisal, but you should have an idea from that what would have been reasonable to pay...maybe like 60-70% of the appraised value?
 
At the lab I pretty much just wanted to know if it was a legit diamond, no enhancements or anything so I didn't get an appraiasal. I need to get one though. I shouldn't say I didn't get one, he gave me one which was a good deal higher than what I paid but the main focus I was there was just to determine if it was a legit diamond with no funny business which he assured me over and over it was. Which I believe because upon doing research on where I bought it, they are as straight up as i've seen and I am very comfortable with them.

I was thinking of going to this place for an appraisal : http://www.gemevaluation.com/ What do you all think ?

And thank you for the responses.
 
Roman I think it comes down to this. Get that appraisal so you know what you have, but remember that there is ALWAYS a better or worse deal out there if you put the energy into looking hard enough. You have a large diamond which is rare in itself which you love, so I wouldn''t worry if you have decided to keep it. There are so many variables with diamonds that the ballparks could range from a few thousand either way. Your lady is very lucky to have a huge honker that she loves, so you did good no matter what!
 
I haven''t heard of this appraisers, but it looks like the sort of place you want - an appraiser who doesn''t sell jewellery and therefore doesn''t have any vested interest when appraising your diamond either way. Let us know how you get on!
 
I agree with the sentiment that the bottom line is that you, as a couple, are both delighted with the beauty of the diamond at a price that was within your comfort zone. And from all the information provided it appears you made a terrific buy.

It is of some concern, as expressed by those who wondered if the stone might be clarity enhanced, whether the gemologist''s grading is correct. A true J Si2 of this size would normally have already been sent to one of the major labs and a full report available. And the owner could have traded it on the wholesale level for more than he sold it to you.

If you have any qualms you could have it looked at by another graduate gemologist, one not connected in any way to the sale.

On the other hand, if you are comfortable then don''t sweat it. Just enjoy your big rock!
 
whew. 11k, not bad. when PS gets posters who buy and then post, I get nervous about raining on their parade.

i WAS hoping the the numbers for table and depth were reversed.

BTW i have several imperfect diamonds. one is even noticeably "out of round" - but it is still purdy.
 
Thanks LoriLee you are correct. She does love it. It's a bit of a conversation piece. People see it and they're like whoa !!!!!

Some people even ask her to take it off so then can try it on, and then they examine it !!!! lol While trying to preted they're not examining it they put it on their finger and stick it right up to their eyes (actually only two people have domne that). They look at it super close.

But there's not one black speck in that diamond, not one ! Which is why I bought it. Sure if you look hard enough you can see a feather, but it's white and you have to study the stone hard at an angle to see it. No one ever know's it's there.
 
I would not say this stone is imperfect. I mean I don''t know about cut, but as far as the SI2 raitng I would say that is very accurate as it has no carbon at all and the feather is tiny. I will post pics of it today and the lab report. Maybe there is info on it I missed an you can tell me. Again, we are happy I just want to know if i got a fair price.
 
It does sound as if you found a great SI2 - especially in that size it can be chancy to find one that is eyeclean. Look forward to the pics and info, also isn''t it the most fun when other gals swoon over your fiance''s ring???
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Oh and dont worry about raining on a PARADE TELL IT LIKE IT IS !!! If the truth hurts, so be it !
 
The truth is that we have no idea what the stone is worth. What we usually say around here is that if a deal is too good to be true, then there is probably a problem. But the only way you will know is to send it to a qualified independent appraiser. I think there is a listing of some on this site.
 
I''m not saying it was too good to be true, just inquiring if i got a fairprice or not. I already know it''s not GIA certified.
 
We''re saying it may be too good to be true, that''s why you need an appraisal!
 
I don''t think there''s any way to get a reasonably well-cut 3 carat stone for only $11,000. But then again, I''m the most cynical person on the face of the earth. Many people on here pay a lot more for 2 carat stones! I know there''s no GIA report, but that''s still too low of a price. My guess is the clarity is actually lower than SI2, like an I1 or I2 and that the color is either an L or M. There''s just no other way to get a stone this size for so cheap.
 
Basically Roman what we are trying to say is that you can't get a great quality diamond for what you paid, cut wise or clarity wise in that size. The depth is too shallow and the table larger than ideal, as to the optical performance of this diamond - with the limited knowledge we have, it probably isn't the best - also the grading might not be accurate. As Coda says you can pay far more for a 2 carat - into the 20k and up - a good 3 carat is going to cost in excess of 25k and way up.

Now as Bryan pointed out earlier, there is a reason why this diamond - which in this size is as rare as hen's teeth - wasn't given a cert. You have to ask why, a diamond of a highly desirable size, wasn't sent to a reputable grading lab when it would have commanded a much higher price....Obviously the cutter felt this diamond wouldn't grade well and be worth the time and expense to get the cert for whatever reason. Also bear in mind a good 1 carat diamond will cost in the region of $6 k and up. With diamonds in this size being so rare and desirable ( there is a huge shortage of larger diamonds) a cutter and vendor is going to do everything he can to get the maximum price of a very desirable type of diamond with certification, cut quality reports etc - IF it is worth it to do so. Buyers are queuing up in droves for the 3 carat diamonds - no shortage of purchasers but a great lack of stones in this size.

Now with all this aside, the question that we still won't be able to really answer - did you get a fair price? Maybe - for what you have, a large diamond with an average cut at best with probably lesser colour and clarity than it actually has. Be happy that you love your diamond and that you have the size you wanted and that you are both so pleased with it!

I hope you don't find my post too blunt, but you did ask for the truth and this is the way I see it!
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Well, I posted average cut prices for a 3 ct. J SI2 and it was $20,000. So this stone is either clarity enhanced or a lower grade than represented.
 
Lorelei, your post was not to blunt. That''s how I figured it. I didn''t think it would rate that high as a GIA diamond or AGS as they are more critical. I painted a picute of what I bought which is accurate. An ungraded stone which I had graded myself at Uinversal Gem Lab. Obviously there grading is not as critical. One way that I feel I lucked out is that the stone has a feather as an inclusion but no visible carbon.
 
DS that was what I was wondering with the price. It would make sense if this diamond IS enhanced, for example a J SI2 after enhancement might actually be an I2 or even I3 clarity before the enhancement, which is the price you pay for the clarity grade before the treatment is done. Then the price would be about what you would expect maybe....going by ones I have seen on various sites.
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Also as the inclusion is a feather means it might have been treated, not saying it IS but that it could be a possibility.

Roman I do think you have the most important thing of all with this diamond - that you both love it - and regardless of the actual specifics of it, that is all that counts in the end!
 
The place I bought it is very reputable and it was already examined by one lab where i was told no Monkey Business. But I am going to have it examined again by this place for piece of mind : http://www.gemevaluation.com/ It is local for me. They should be able to tell me if it was laser drilled or whatever right ?

I honestly don''t think it was though, and I can usually smell a rat. Usually, but I am very cautious which is why I guess I am having it evaluated twice.
 
It sounds okay as long as it wasn''t recommended by the jeweler where you bought the diamond.
 
No it wasn''t reccommended by the palce I bought the diamond. I''m not that green. I did a google and found it.
 
Here is a picture. I''ll try and get some better ones. It''s not easy to take pictures of a diamond. Well, not with this camera anyway
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Here''s another

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Dunno why these pictures are posting so large

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