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A Massachusetts man was charged with hate crimes after he threatened an airline worker at Kennedy International Airport who was wearing a head scarf, kicked her and told her “Trump is here now” and “he will get rid of all of you,” officials said on Thursday.

"Man Kicked J.F.K. Airport Worker Wearing Hijab, Prosecutor Says"...https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/nyregion/queens-ny-jfk-attack.html?module=WatchingPortal&region=c-column-middle-span-region&pgType=Homepage&action=click&mediaId=thumb_square&state=standard&contentPlacement=3&version=internal&contentCollection=www.nytimes.com&contentId=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2017%2F01%2F26%2Fnyregion%2Fqueens-ny-jfk-attack.html&eventName=Watching-article-click&_r=0

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Looks like someone has quite the agenda.
 
Deb, the saddest thing is that for every one of those incidents Trump supporters justify these reports with more of their own as you can see above. They want him in power and until he does something that forces everyone to admit he has acted in a way that is a direct violation of your constitution, until then, he is here to stay. I do however believe that he might just end up being impeached and removed by his own party members, I guess I can live in hope.... :angel:
 
There seems to be a particular attitude that allows people to do horrible things and use Trump as an excuse.
There are those who support him and use him as an excuse (like the man in this thread) and there are those who are against him and use him as an excuse (like the teacher in the other thread). If you are a nasty human being, you are a nasty human being, and no one is responsible for that sort of behavior except the people acting like nasty human beings.
There are jerks in every society - and there's a media that loves to sensationalize those jerks....
 
momhappy|1485523707|4120572 said:
There seems to be a particular attitude that allows people to do horrible things and use Trump as an excuse.
There are those who support him and use him as an excuse (like the man in this thread) and there are those who are against him and use him as an excuse (like the teacher in the other thread). If you are a nasty human being, you are a nasty human being, and no one is responsible for that sort of behavior except the people acting like nasty human beings.
There are jerks in every society - and there's a media that loves to sensationalize those jerks....

I agree and disagree, I fully agree every society has jerks and no doubt we elect many of them as our politicians. I reject, however, that a mentally unstable narcissist is going to to be a viable/stable leader of the free world. I keep repeating some of the key issues most of his supporters seem to be missing - while closing down trade borders might create more jobs in the US in the short term, the price of all of your every day items is going to go up, inflation will go up, there will be a downturn in the global economy, the result? Another global financial crisis. And don't even get me started on Trump's stance against China in the mounting tension in South China Sea, if he starts a war here, that's my part of the world, so sadly your bad choice of a President impacts all of us;

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/23/trump-white-house-vows-to-stop-china-taking-south-china-sea-islands.html

I guess the point I am making is that if your leader sets a bad example then that seems to legitimise more bad behaviour from everyone.
 
There are "bad examples" everywhere (celebrities, politicians, sports figures, etc.). It's all an excuse. We are responsible for our own behavior. Nasty human beings have walked this planet long before Trump did. If we are going to make excuses for people's poor behavior, then anything is fair game.
I saw a video of a woman who boarded an airplane and acted like a complete jerk to the man who was seated next to her. She assumed he was a Trump supporter and she said mean things to him. Subsequently, she was kicked off the flight for being a jerk. There is no excuse for poor behavior. If you act like a jerk, it's because you choose to be a jerk and not because Trump made you one.
 
momhappy|1485525744|4120580 said:
There are "bad examples" everywhere (celebrities, politicians, sports figures, etc.). It's all an excuse. We are responsible for our own behavior. Nasty human beings have walked this planet long before Trump did.

This is 100% true, but I don't think electing one to your highest office helps to combat that, I personally choose to look up to and respect politicians, sporting figures and celebrities who are "good to outstanding examples" of what we as a society should aspire to be, not those who endorse, encourage and more to the point of this post inspire people to be the very worst they can be.....

I don't think there has been a president in your history that will be as divisive as he is. Sure people are responsible for themselves but electing him seems to have legitimised more people to be A-holes to each other.
 
^you're right, electing Trump didn't help, but then by the same token, you could argue that electing him didn't hurt either ;) I accept the fact that he's a jerk, but sadly, he's one of many. I can't change that fact, but I can change how I behave/act/speak/think, so that's what I choose to focus on.
 
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/the-violence-to-come/471924/
http://fortune.com/2016/11/17/anti-semitism-donald-trump-jews/
http://www.mediaite.com/online/breitbart-attacks-wapo-columnist-for-being-a-jewish-american-elitist/
http://www.npr.org/2016/10/16/497841789/for-much-of-black-america-election-2016-has-been-rough
http://www.snopes.com/black-mob-beats-white-man-for-voting-trump/
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/white-supremacists-threaten-attack-black-americans-donald-neal-ii
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/06/thugs-and-terrorists-have-plagued-black-churches-for-generations/396212/
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-dylann-roof-sentencing-20170110-story.html
http://www.newsmax.com/US/man-hills-boy-possible/2016/11/24/id/760580/

There is a lot of injustice in America, feelings are very high on FEAR of Trump and adoration of Trump..

No one should be beat up or attacked, but people need to stop the violent rhetoric. We have freedom of speech but with that comes fear. Saying things like: more blacks kill blacks, this incites anger in the black community. We need a president we can trust to speak the truth. If people think blacks should 'get over it' then people in the south should 'get over' the civil war and their flags and their heritage of being black owners, because that is how blacks see it.

I suppose it's the end of America. We now have Bannon saying the press should 'shut up' it's a crying shame.
 
momhappy|1485526684|4120588 said:
^you're right, electing Trump didn't help, but then by the same token, you could argue that electing him didn't hurt either ;) I accept the fact that he's a jerk, but sadly, he's one of many. I can't change that fact, but I can change how I behave/act/speak/think, so that's what I choose to focus on.

I guess it's two things, firstly he is so divisive he undermines social stability in the US. He is already suggesting he wants to control the media to combat this.... Choose to reject a leader who creates so much ill will and division.

I don't think his policies have been well thought out long term, that is what I have major issues with, if he starts a war or he creates another global financial crisis, I hope that you will agree that electing him actually did hurt more than you are currently willing to potentially see. I have an outsiders point of view living outside the US and even the conservatives here don't like the amount of negative energy he generates. But I guess he's ticking off short term solutions that most people who have no grasp of long term economic and political consequences will even realise until it causes some massive catastrophe. :roll:

Give it another month or so and see if China is ready to go to war with you, I guess at least you could have him censoring what is stated in the media by then controlling what you hear about that, controlling your borders, taking a nationalistic stance that appeals to so many white middle and working class Americans, so you can blissfully keep waving the "he's not so bad" flag..... he's not so bad until something bad happens.... and then well I guess everyone blames someone else as you so clearly point out.
Choose someone who makes well thought out good long term choices, he isn't that person.
 
^Some people feel that Obama was divisive....See these are all just excuses. The president (any president) is not responsible for how people treat one another. I refuse to combat negativity with more negativity. For me, that means taking responsibility for my own thoughts/actions, minimizing the amount of news I read/see/hear, not getting caught up in the fear-mongering, and focusing on and/or engaging in positivity (like volunteering, etc.).
 
arkieb1|1485527483|4120592 said:
momhappy|1485526684|4120588 said:
^you're right, electing Trump didn't help, but then by the same token, you could argue that electing him didn't hurt either ;) I accept the fact that he's a jerk, but sadly, he's one of many. I can't change that fact, but I can change how I behave/act/speak/think, so that's what I choose to focus on.

I guess it's two things, firstly he is so divisive he undermines social stability in the US. He is already suggesting he wants to control the media to combat this.... Choose to reject a leader who creates so much ill will and division.

I don't think his policies have been well thought out long term, that is what I have major issues with, if he starts a war or he creates another global financial crisis, I hope that you will agree that electing him actually did hurt more than you are currently willing to potentially see. I have an outsiders point of view living outside the US and even the conservatives here don't like the amount of negative energy he generates. But I guess he's ticking off short term solutions that most people who have no grasp of long term economic and political consequences will even realise until it causes some massive catastrophe. :roll:

Give it another month or so and see if China is ready to go to war with you, I guess at least you could have him censoring what is stated in the media by then controlling what you hear about that, controlling your borders, taking a nationalistic stance that appeals to so many white middle and working class Americans, so you can blissfully keep waving the "he's not so bad" flag..... he's not so bad until something bad happens.... and then well I guess everyone blames someone else as you so clearly point out.
Choose someone who makes well thought out good long term choices, he isn't that person.

Arkieb- you took the words right out of my mouth....
 
momhappy|1485530484|4120616 said:
^Some people feel that Obama was divisive....See these are all just excuses. The president (any president) is not responsible for how people treat one another. I refuse to combat negativity with more negativity. For, me, that means taking responsibility for my own thoughts/actions, minimizing the amount of news I read/see/hear, not getting caught up in the fear-mongering, and focusing on and/or engaging in positivity (like volunteering, etc.).

I'm sorry you feel that way. All political leaders should in theory be responsible for setting a high standard of how we should treat each other period. Most of your politicians including all of your presidents create policies/legislation on how we treat each other. They also lead by example on issues like how we treat women, how we treat the LGBT community, how we treat refugees, and how we treat our neighbours in other countries and issues around basic human rights. So when the person at the very top has no moral compass and doesn't treat many of these people with fairness or equality or respect, you might see it as "not getting caught up in fear mongering" and I might see it as not speaking out against someone who seems to endorse, and create these divisions....

Yes you are stuck with him, your version is be happy with that, my version is don't wait until someone extreme happens before enough of you insist that you find a better option.
 
arkieb1|1485506740|4120532 said:
Deb, the saddest thing is that for every one of those incidents Trump supporters justify these reports with more of their own as you can see above.

You are right. ruby is not using any logic in what she posted.

ruby-

What the hell does an attack on a Trump supporter have to do with an attack on a Muslim?

One is a hate crime.
The other is just an act of political recrimination. Both parties do it. The attacks against Jews in Nazi Germany were not just attacks by the National Socialist Party members against Communist Party members or vice versa. You are a Jew. You know this.

Get a grip, woman! :read:

Deb
 
Unfortunately Deb the internet is full of these examples for every negative example of violence that Trump has inspired or legitimised several of his supporters will simply then post articles of his non supporters engaging in similar behaviour. I'd even go as far as to say his own press/media (that then gets distilled down and distributed to his supporters) is doing the same thing, providing plenty of disinformation to cover the fact that you have a President making a number of what conservatives view as Nationalistic, lefties see as Socialistic and as an outsider I and anyone with half a brain, see as basically bad choices for your economy and for your society.
 
arkieb1|1485532453|4120638 said:
Unfortunately Deb the internet is full of these examples for every negative example of violence that Trump has inspired or legitimised several of his supporters will simply then post articles of his non supporters engaging in similar behaviour.

arkie-

My point is that violence against a religious minority is not "similar behaviour" to violence against a Trump supporter. Violence by a Trump denouncer against a Trump supporter is a purely political act. And there are many acts of violence by Trump supporters against Trump denouncers, which are purely political acts. (Acts often inspired by Mr. Trump, who loves inciting violence amongst his supporters.)

But political acts, no matter who got his supporters all riled up to perform them, are not hate crimes. Not if they are aimed purely at any members of an opposing political faction.

The act mentioned in the article above is a hate crime. A hate crime inspired by Trump's blathering about Muslims and a Muslim ban. It was illogical of ruby to believe that she was countering it in any way by posting nonsense about attacks on Trump supporters.

Deb/AGBF :read:
 
AGBF|1485538187|4120687 said:
arkieb1|1485532453|4120638 said:
Unfortunately Deb the internet is full of these examples for every negative example of violence that Trump has inspired or legitimised several of his supporters will simply then post articles of his non supporters engaging in similar behaviour.

arkie-

My point is that violence against a religious minority is not "similar behaviour" to violence against a Trump supporter. Violence by a Trump denouncer against a Trump supporter is a purely political act. And there are many acts of violence by Trump supporters against Trump denouncers, which are purely political acts. (Acts often inspired by Mr. Trump, who loves inciting violence amongst his supporters.)

But political acts, no matter who got his supporters all riled up to perform them, are not hate crimes. Not if they are aimed purely at any members of an opposing political faction.

The act mentioned in the article above is a hate crime. A hate crime inspired by Trump's blathering about Muslims and a Muslim ban. It was illogical of ruby to believe that she was countering it in any way by posting nonsense about attacks on Trump supporters.

Deb/AGBF :read:
Precisely. This is how the FBI defines hate crimes:
"A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. For the purposes of collecting statistics, the FBI has defined a hate crime as a “criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, ethnicity, gender, or gender identity.” Hate itself is not a crime—and the FBI is mindful of protecting freedom of speech and other civil liberties."
 
Matata|1485541531|4120712 said:
AGBF|1485538187|4120687 said:
arkieb1|1485532453|4120638 said:
Unfortunately Deb the internet is full of these examples for every negative example of violence that Trump has inspired or legitimised several of his supporters will simply then post articles of his non supporters engaging in similar behaviour.

arkie-

My point is that violence against a religious minority is not "similar behaviour" to violence against a Trump supporter. Violence by a Trump denouncer against a Trump supporter is a purely political act. And there are many acts of violence by Trump supporters against Trump denouncers, which are purely political acts. (Acts often inspired by Mr. Trump, who loves inciting violence amongst his supporters.)

But political acts, no matter who got his supporters all riled up to perform them, are not hate crimes. Not if they are aimed purely at any members of an opposing political faction.

The act mentioned in the article above is a hate crime. A hate crime inspired by Trump's blathering about Muslims and a Muslim ban. It was illogical of ruby to believe that she was countering it in any way by posting nonsense about attacks on Trump supporters.

Deb/AGBF :read:
Precisely. This is how the FBI defines hate crimes:
"A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. For the purposes of collecting statistics, the FBI has defined a hate crime as a “criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, ethnicity, gender, or gender identity.” Hate itself is not a crime—and the FBI is mindful of protecting freedom of speech and other civil liberties."

Thank you! This is so frustrating to me. A hate crime is different than a regular crime, hence why it has its own distinction!
 
AGBF|1485531828|4120637 said:
arkieb1|1485506740|4120532 said:
Deb, the saddest thing is that for every one of those incidents Trump supporters justify these reports with more of their own as you can see above.

You are right. ruby is not using any logic in what she posted.

ruby-

What the hell does an attack on a Trump supporter have to do with an attack on a Muslim?

One is a hate crime.
The other is just an act of political recrimination. Both parties do it. The attacks against Jews in Nazi Germany were not just attacks by the National Socialist Party members against Communist Party members or vice versa. You are a Jew. You know this.

Get a grip, woman! :read:

Deb


I believe the title is "defies words" (nice original title, by the way, actual violence)

Pardon me for thinking that hitting a man on the head with a flag pole, a 74 year old man being attacked by a 23 year old black lives matter woman, and taking a man out of his car and beating him was not violence.

Hate crime - read the articles again as to the 3 black men who beat that man. The coward who hit the man with the flag pole had his face covered.

And did you see all the incidents of children attacking each other, probably thanks to that crazy woman in the other "defies words" thread.

I have a grip, dear deb, now you get a clue that there is violence on both sides.

And as mom so nicely put, people need to take responsibility for their own stupidity instead of blaming everything on Trump or anyone else.


Those black people who beat up and tortured that mentally challenged man, - would that qualify as a hate crime - you want to blame Trump for that as well?
 
ruby59|1485545101|4120740 said:
AGBF|1485531828|4120637 said:
arkieb1|1485506740|4120532 said:
Deb, the saddest thing is that for every one of those incidents Trump supporters justify these reports with more of their own as you can see above.

You are right. ruby is not using any logic in what she posted.

ruby-

What the hell does an attack on a Trump supporter have to do with an attack on a Muslim?

One is a hate crime.
The other is just an act of political recrimination. Both parties do it. The attacks against Jews in Nazi Germany were not just attacks by the National Socialist Party members against Communist Party members or vice versa. You are a Jew. You know this.

Get a grip, woman! :read:

Deb


I believe the title is "defies words" (nice original title, by the way, actual violence)

Pardon me for thinking that hitting a man on the head with a flag pole, a 74 year old man being attacked by a 23 year old black lives matter woman, and taking a man out of his car and beating him was not violence.

Hate crime - read the articles again as to the 3 black men who beat that man. The coward who hit the man with the flag pole had his face covered.

And did you see all the incidents of children attacking each other, probably thanks to that crazy woman in the other "defies words" thread.

I have a grip, dear deb, now you get a clue that there is violence on both sides.

And as mom so nicely put, people need to take responsibility for their own stupidity instead of blaming everything on Trump or anyone else.


Those black people who beat up and tortured that mentally challenged man, - would that qualify as a hate crime - you want to blame Trump for that as well?

You are missing the point entirely. We are talking about what constitutes a HATE CRIME versus regular violence. Obviously neither is ok, but making the distinction is relevant. The bolded about faces covers is not relevant to a hate crime, neither are instances of children attacking each other. Finally, if the men who beat up an individual with intellectual disability was because of his disability, then yes, that qualifies as a hate crime. If not then it doesn't. Also, WHY is it so important to you that the men were "black people"??? That is 100% irrelevant to anything.

Also, everyone has already admitted to violence on both sides in multiple threads. We know that already. But hate crimes and violence are different things, which you seem to not understand.
 
lovedogs|1485547119|4120757 said:
ruby59|1485545101|4120740 said:
AGBF|1485531828|4120637 said:
arkieb1|1485506740|4120532 said:
Deb, the saddest thing is that for every one of those incidents Trump supporters justify these reports with more of their own as you can see above.

You are right. ruby is not using any logic in what she posted.

ruby-

What the hell does an attack on a Trump supporter have to do with an attack on a Muslim?

One is a hate crime.
The other is just an act of political recrimination. Both parties do it. The attacks against Jews in Nazi Germany were not just attacks by the National Socialist Party members against Communist Party members or vice versa. You are a Jew. You know this.

Get a grip, woman! :read:

Deb


I believe the title is "defies words" (nice original title, by the way, actual violence)

Pardon me for thinking that hitting a man on the head with a flag pole, a 74 year old man being attacked by a 23 year old black lives matter woman, and taking a man out of his car and beating him was not violence.

Hate crime - read the articles again as to the 3 black men who beat that man. The coward who hit the man with the flag pole had his face covered.

And did you see all the incidents of children attacking each other, probably thanks to that crazy woman in the other "defies words" thread.

I have a grip, dear deb, now you get a clue that there is violence on both sides.

And as mom so nicely put, people need to take responsibility for their own stupidity instead of blaming everything on Trump or anyone else.


Those black people who beat up and tortured that mentally challenged man, - would that qualify as a hate crime - you want to blame Trump for that as well?

You are missing the point entirely. We are talking about what constitutes a HATE CRIME versus regular violence. Obviously neither is ok, but making the distinction is relevant. The bolded about faces covers is not relevant to a hate crime, neither are instances of children attacking each other. Finally, if the men who beat up an individual with intellectual disability was because of his disability, then yes, that qualifies as a hate crime. If not then it doesn't. Also, WHY is it so important to you that the men were "black people"??? That is 100% irrelevant to anything.

Also, everyone has already admitted to violence on both sides in multiple threads. We know that already. But hate crimes and violence are different things, which you seem to not understand.

Article was posted by Deb because a white man hurt a Muslim woman.

If it was white on white or black on black - in the name of Trump - would she have posted it just the same.

Hate crime or violence - someone was hurt badly. Does it really matter why?
 
I know that others have said, why do people say Trump is racist? Or that promotes racism?
I saw this on another forum and thought I would share. I didn't know about most of these. Has a book of Hitler's writing on his bedside table? That is scary. I did know that his butler was a raging racist who called for the death of Obama and his wife, but I guess those are his kind of people.

Donald Trump violated the civil rights act by refusing to rent homes to black people.

http://www.nytimes.com/times-insider/2015/07/30/1973-meet-donald-trump/
http://new.www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/29/donald-trump-blacks-lawsuit_n_855553.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/15/doj-trump-s-early-businesses-blocked-blacks.html
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/09/07/the-death-and-life-of-atlantic-city

Trump continued to refuse to rent homes to black people three years after Justice Department ruling on the matter sides against Trump.

http://www.nytimes.com/1978/03/07/archives/trump-charged-with-rental-bias.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1983/10/16/realestate/for-starrett-city-an-integration-test.html?scp=4&sq=trump+discrimination&st=nyt&pagewanted=all

Trump ordered blacks to leave casino floor whenever he or his wife arrives on property.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/09/07/the-death-and-life-of-atlantic-city

1991 book written by Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino President quotes Trump as saying:

“I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day… . I think the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.“

http://articles.philly.com/1991-05-10/news/25795529_1_trump-associates-trump-s-atlantic-city-donald-trump

Trump built a casino in black majority city and breaks promise to mayor about hiring locals, refrains to hire the minorities and opting to staff the casino with almost exclusively all Caucasian employees.

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/money/trump-hit-race-suit-blacks-don-dealt-casino-jobs-article-1.726389

Trump was asked about replacing TSA's 'heebeejabis' with veterans, responded with:

"We're looking at it"

http://www.npr.org/2016/06/30/484229621/woman-asks-trump-about-replacing-tsas-heebejabis-with-veterans
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-response-anti-muslim-tsa-worker-question-veterans-2016-7
http://time.com/4039658/trump-obama-muslim/

Trump responded to accusations of racism by hiring a former aid for Joseph McCarthy to sue the government for half a billion dollars.

http://www.salon.com/2011/04/28/donald_trump_discrimination_suit/

Trump kept books of Hitler Speeches by his bed.

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8
http://forward.com/the-assimilator/318664/trump-and-hitler/
http://www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-hitler-speeches-book

Trump's campaign photoshopped a white model black.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trumps-people-almost-definitely-photoshopped-a-white-model-to-make-her-black_us_56d872d5e4b03a405677a680
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/donald-trump-photoshopped-models-to-be-african-american-in-his-online-store/

Trump refused to disavow support from the Klu Klux Klan multiple times during interview only to change his mind later on twitter.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/3739/disgusting-trump-reverses-himself-refuses-disavow-ben-shapiro
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-kkk-cnn-tapper-154053871.html
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/02/28/468455028/trump-wont-condemn-kkk-says-he-knows-nothing-about-white-supremacists
http://time.com/4240268/donald-trump-kkk-david-duke/
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/david-duke-trump-219777

The KKK endorses Trump.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/a-lot-of-what-he-believes-we-believe-kkk-grand-imperial-wizard-endorses-trump/
http://www.snopes.com/2016/05/02/klan-leader-endorses-trump/
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/04/30/3774243/ku-klux-klan-imperial-wizard-endorses-donald-trump-for-president/

Trump retweets message from Pro-Hitler, white genocide conspiracy Twitter account.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-whitegenocidetm-retweet
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/430201/donald-trump-retweets-white-genocide-twitter-user
http://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-retweets-white-genocide-account-based-in-jewmerica/
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-retweets-neo-nazi-sympathizer-article-1.2506735

Analysis shows that 62% of the people Trump retweeted on the week of January 19th 2016 were white supremacist accounts.

http://www.getlittlebird.com/blog/data-62-of-the-people-donald-trump-rted-this-week-follow-multiple-white-supremacist-accounts

Trump picks famed white supremacist leader as delegate.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/donald-trump-white-nationalist-afp-delegate-california

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/45928_Donald_Trump_Picks_Well-Known_White_Nationalist_Leader_as_a_Delegate_in_California

http://www.nationalmemo.com/trump-picks-white-nationalist-leader-as-delegate/

Trump's son gives interview with Holocaust denying radio show host who wants to bring back slavery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Political_Cesspool#Donald_Trump_Jr._interview

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/donald-trump-son-pro-slavery-host-interview-220120?lo=ap_c1

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/271501-trump-grants-press-credentials-to-pro-white-radio-show

Trump's "my African-American" isn't even a Trump supporter.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/06/05/480864303/trumps-african-american-i-am-not-a-trump-supporter

Trump gives press credentials to white supremacist radio host.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/donald-trump-gives-interview-pres-credentials-to-white-supremacist/

Trump discriminated against Native-Americans as well.

http://www.courant.com/business/dan-haar/hc-haar-donald-trump-connecticut-indians-weicker-20150810-column.html

Six former contestants of The Apprentice blast Trump as a racist and sexist.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/former-apprentice-contestants-denounce-donald-trump-s-candidacy-n556306

Trumps father was arrested for attacking police officers at KKK rally.

http://boingboing.net/2015/09/09/1927-news-report-donald-trump.html
http://addictinginfo.org/2015/09/09/donald-trumps-dad-was-arrested-during-kkk-rally-that-attacked-two-police-officers/
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fred-trump-arrest-1927-kkk

Public Policy Polling polls Trump supporters and discovers:

60% Support banning Muslims from entering the United States

50% Support the Confederate flag hanging on the capital grounds

30% Support shutting down all mosques in the United States

30% Wish the South won the civil war

25% Islam should be illegal in the United States

25% Support the policy of Japanese Internment

20% Support banning homosexuals from entering the United States

10% Say Whites are a superior race

(11% aren’t sure one way or another)

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_SC_21616.pdf

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/one_out_of_three_trump_voters_in_sc_would_ban_gays_from_entering_the_u_s

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2016/02/guess-how-many-donald-trump-supporters-want-gay-people-barred-from-entering-america/

Trump refuses to condemn violence against muslims and African-Americans committed by his supporters.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-idUSKCN0WM0RJ
http://www.japantoday.com/category/world/view/trump-refuses-to-condemn-violence-at-his-rallies

When asked for comments on two of his supporters who brutally beat and urinated on a Hispanic homeless man while yelling Pro-Trump Slogans, Trump responds by defending the men as just being "passionate".

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/21/trump-says-fans-are-very-passionate-after-hearing-one-of-them-allegedly-assaulted-hispanic-man/
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/donald-trump-calls-boston-brothers-who-beat-homeless-hispanic-man-his-name-passionate-1516392
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/08/20/after-two-brothers-allegedly-beat-homeless-man-one-them-admiringly-quote-donald-trump-deporting-illegals/I4NXR3Dr7litLi2NB4f9TN/story.html

The Economist polls Trump supporters and discovers:

15% disapprove of slavery being abolished

- (Another 20% aren’t sure one way or another)

50% support the use of torture on foreign enemy combatants

- (Another 25% aren’t sure one way or another)

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/ctucuikdsj/econToplines.pdf

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/25/upshot/measuring-donald-trumps-supporters-for-intolerance.html?smid=tw-share&_r=2

http://time.com/4236640/donald-trump-racist-supporters/

80% of Trump's supporters claim to have no problem with racist comments.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/12/8o-percent-gop-voters-trumps-racist-comments-totally-fine.html

Trump falsely claims 4 out of 5 white people who were victims of homicide were murdered by blacks.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/23/donald-trump/trump-tweet-blacks-white-homicide-victims/

Trump believes that Mexicans are rapist by default.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi33KkhKRWs
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/07/08/donald-trumps-false-comments-connecting-mexican-immigrants-and-crime/

Trump tweeted an anti-semitic tweet likely depicting Hillary jewish.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-star-david-225058?cmpid=sf
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/749239879645687808
https://mic.com/articles/147711/donald-trump-s-star-of-david-hillary-clinton-meme-was-created-by-white-supremacists#.tfw8osmNX

The HRC David star tweet turned out to originate from a neo-nazi website.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DC_GOP_2016_TRUMP_TWEET?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-s-star-david-tweet-about-hillary-clinton-posted-n603161

Trump retweets quote from Italian Dictator Benito Mussolini.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35682844
http://time.com/4240330/donald-trump-benito-mussolini-quote/
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/28/donald-trump-retweets-post-likening-him-to-mussolini/

Trump uses picture of Nazi soldiers in official campaign poster.

https://news.vice.com/article/donald-trump-just-tweeted-and-deleted-a-picture-featuring-nazi-ss-soldiers?utm_source=vicenewstwitter
https://i.imgur.com/JDqBCXd.jpg

Trump's spokesman, Katrina Pierson, critized Obama for being "a negro" and not "pure-breed".

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jan/29/katrina-pierson-donald-trump-spokeswoman-defends-t/
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/top-trump-official-defends-call-for-pure-breed-president-obama-is-a-half-breed-and-so-am-i/
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/266845-trump-spokeswoman-defends-pure-breeds-tweet

Opinions of his supporters.

20% of Trump's supporters think that freeing the slaves was a bad thing. http://time.com/4236640/donald-trump-racist-supporters/

65% of Trump's supporters think Obama is a muslim. http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/05/gop-quickly-unifies-around-trump-clinton-still-has-modest-lead.html#more

64% of Trump's supporters think that "Muslims should be subject to more scrutiny" http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/05/11/trump-supporters-differ-from-other-gop-voters-on-foreign-policy-immigration-issues/?utm_content=buffer053ac&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Trump supporters are more likely than supporters of other Republican candidates to have negative feelings towards feminists, Muslims, Latinos, Gays and Lesbians, and Transgender people. In contrast, Trump supporters have far warmer feelings towards whites than supporters of other candidates. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-voters-versus-republicans_us_573b0ec0e4b060aa781b32ce

Trump's "muslim ban" is unconstitutional.

http://time.com/4139476/donald-trump-shutdown-muslim-immigration/
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2015/12/08/is-trumps-proposed-ban-on-muslim-entry-constitutional/
https://reason.com/blog/2016/03/03/donald-trump-enemy-of-the-constitution

Trump thinks that muslims should wear "special ID badges", as well as having a database tracking muslims.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/trump-crosses-the-nazi-line-maybe-muslims-should-wear-special-id-badges/
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/20/opinions/obeidallah-trump-anti-muslim/

Trump lies about how "muslims celebrated 9/11".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-911_us_565b1950e4b08e945feb7326
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/11/22/donald-trumps-outrageous-claim-that-thousands-of-new-jersey-muslims-celebrated-the-911-attacks/

Trump wants to racially profile to "prevent criminality".

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-idUSKCN0Z50PV
http://fortune.com/2016/06/19/trump-racial-profiling/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/19/donald-trump-proposes-racial-profiling-gun-control-nra

Trump had a full-page ad promoting execution of a group of Latino and Black children, who later turned out to be innocent.

Trump continued to believe that they were somehow guilty despite the DNA test.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/17/central-park-five-donald-trump-jogger-rape-case-new-york
http://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/donald-trump-and-the-central-park-five
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/325982969040879620?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

He believes that Obama was born in Kenya.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/apr/07/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-president-obamas-grandmother-cau/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/19/us/politics/donald-trump-obama-muslim.html?_r=0
https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate

He attacked Judge P. Curiel for his "Mexican heritage"

http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-keeps-up-attacks-on-judge-gonzalo-curiel-1464911442
http://www.forbes.com/sites/henrymiller/2016/06/30/greenpeace-more-dishonest-and-dangerous-than-the-mafia/#18d6cc541f44
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/06/no-judge-curiel-not-biased-against-donald-trump

Anne Frank's relatives thinks that Trump is 'acting like Hitler'.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/anne-franks-step-sister-says-donald-trump-is-acting-like-hitler-a6838531.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/27/politics/anne-frank-donald-trump-adolf-hitler/index.html

Trump was fined $200,000 in 1992 by the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement for not allowing blacks or women onto his casino floor while a racist Mafia leader was gambling.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/donald-trump-scandals/474726/
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/downashore/Trump-ties-to-mobster-racist-casino-policies-resurface-in-new-report.html

Trump kicked the only black Republican official out of an Atlanta Trump event with no explanation.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/black-georgia-gop-official-booted-from-atlanta-trump-event-with-no-explanation/
 
What happened to the Muslim lady was terrible. No one here disagrees.
I understand that the President's "tone" is important. Because he is the President, I hope and pray that he will do better in the future.
Many were disappointed that President Obama spoke out so quickly whenever a black man was shot by a police officer, but was slow to speak or silent when a police officer was shot. But that doesn't mean that President Obama wanted police officers killed. Of course he didn't.
 
ruby59|1485545101|4120740 said:
AGBF|1485531828|4120637 said:
arkieb1|1485506740|4120532 said:
Deb, the saddest thing is that for every one of those incidents Trump supporters justify these reports with more of their own as you can see above.

You are right. ruby is not using any logic in what she posted.

ruby-

What the hell does an attack on a Trump supporter have to do with an attack on a Muslim?

One is a hate crime.
The other is just an act of political recrimination. Both parties do it. The attacks against Jews in Nazi Germany were not just attacks by the National Socialist Party members against Communist Party members or vice versa. You are a Jew. You know this.

Get a grip, woman! :read:

Deb

Pardon me for thinking that hitting a man on the head with a flag pole, a 74 year old man being attacked by a 23 year old black lives matter woman, and taking a man out of his car and beating him was not violence.

ruby,

You write long postings chock full of illogical statements. If I were to refute all of your illogical statements from such a posting in a long posting of my own, no one would bother reading it. So I will take your long posting apart one line at a time until I am interrupted. (We are going to Walmart. This is an exciting outing for me. I am not let out of my house in Connecticut very often, but I am in Virginia with my husband, so it feels like a vacation.)

I did not say that hitting a 74 year-old man on the head with a flag pole (with or without further beating) was not violence. What on earth are you talking about?

Deb
 
ruby59|1485545101|4120740 said:
Article was posted by Deb because a white man hurt a Muslim woman.

If it was white on white or black on black - in the name of Trump - would she have posted it just the same.

Hate crime or violence - someone was hurt badly. Does it really matter why?

You literally cannot be serious. "Does it matter?" OF COURSE IT DOES!!! Why else would "hate crime" be a distinction? Your level of ignorance about this is appalling.
 
part gypsy|1485548107|4120767 said:
I know that others have said, why do people say Trump is racist? Or that promotes racism?
I saw this on another forum and thought I would share. I didn't know about most of these. Has a book of Hitler's writing on his bedside table? That is scary. I did know that his butler was a raging racist who called for the death of Obama and his wife, but I guess those are his kind of people.

Donald Trump violated the civil rights act by refusing to rent homes to black people.

http://www.nytimes.com/times-insider/2015/07/30/1973-meet-donald-trump/
http://new.www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/29/donald-trump-blacks-lawsuit_n_855553.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/15/doj-trump-s-early-businesses-blocked-blacks.html
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/09/07/the-death-and-life-of-atlantic-city

Trump continued to refuse to rent homes to black people three years after Justice Department ruling on the matter sides against Trump.

http://www.nytimes.com/1978/03/07/archives/trump-charged-with-rental-bias.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1983/10/16/realestate/for-starrett-city-an-integration-test.html?scp=4&sq=trump+discrimination&st=nyt&pagewanted=all

Trump ordered blacks to leave casino floor whenever he or his wife arrives on property.



You do know that one of his right hand men is his son in law who is Jewish and that his daugther converted to Judaism. So I find the Hitler book one hard to believe.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/09/07/the-death-and-life-of-atlantic-city

1991 book written by Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino President quotes Trump as saying:

“I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day… . I think the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.“

http://articles.philly.com/1991-05-10/news/25795529_1_trump-associates-trump-s-atlantic-city-donald-trump

Trump built a casino in black majority city and breaks promise to mayor about hiring locals, refrains to hire the minorities and opting to staff the casino with almost exclusively all Caucasian employees.

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/money/trump-hit-race-suit-blacks-don-dealt-casino-jobs-article-1.726389

Trump was asked about replacing TSA's 'heebeejabis' with veterans, responded with:

"We're looking at it"

http://www.npr.org/2016/06/30/484229621/woman-asks-trump-about-replacing-tsas-heebejabis-with-veterans
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-response-anti-muslim-tsa-worker-question-veterans-2016-7
http://time.com/4039658/trump-obama-muslim/

Trump responded to accusations of racism by hiring a former aid for Joseph McCarthy to sue the government for half a billion dollars.

http://www.salon.com/2011/04/28/donald_trump_discrimination_suit/

Trump kept books of Hitler Speeches by his bed.

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8
http://forward.com/the-assimilator/318664/trump-and-hitler/
http://www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-hitler-speeches-book

Trump's campaign photoshopped a white model black.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trumps-people-almost-definitely-photoshopped-a-white-model-to-make-her-black_us_56d872d5e4b03a405677a680
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/donald-trump-photoshopped-models-to-be-african-american-in-his-online-store/

Trump refused to disavow support from the Klu Klux Klan multiple times during interview only to change his mind later on twitter.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/3739/disgusting-trump-reverses-himself-refuses-disavow-ben-shapiro
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-kkk-cnn-tapper-154053871.html
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/02/28/468455028/trump-wont-condemn-kkk-says-he-knows-nothing-about-white-supremacists
http://time.com/4240268/donald-trump-kkk-david-duke/
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/david-duke-trump-219777

The KKK endorses Trump.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/a-lot-of-what-he-believes-we-believe-kkk-grand-imperial-wizard-endorses-trump/
http://www.snopes.com/2016/05/02/klan-leader-endorses-trump/
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/04/30/3774243/ku-klux-klan-imperial-wizard-endorses-donald-trump-for-president/

Trump retweets message from Pro-Hitler, white genocide conspiracy Twitter account.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-whitegenocidetm-retweet
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/430201/donald-trump-retweets-white-genocide-twitter-user
http://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-retweets-white-genocide-account-based-in-jewmerica/
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-retweets-neo-nazi-sympathizer-article-1.2506735

Analysis shows that 62% of the people Trump retweeted on the week of January 19th 2016 were white supremacist accounts.

http://www.getlittlebird.com/blog/data-62-of-the-people-donald-trump-rted-this-week-follow-multiple-white-supremacist-accounts

Trump picks famed white supremacist leader as delegate.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/donald-trump-white-nationalist-afp-delegate-california

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/45928_Donald_Trump_Picks_Well-Known_White_Nationalist_Leader_as_a_Delegate_in_California

http://www.nationalmemo.com/trump-picks-white-nationalist-leader-as-delegate/

Trump's son gives interview with Holocaust denying radio show host who wants to bring back slavery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Political_Cesspool#Donald_Trump_Jr._interview

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/donald-trump-son-pro-slavery-host-interview-220120?lo=ap_c1

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/271501-trump-grants-press-credentials-to-pro-white-radio-show

Trump's "my African-American" isn't even a Trump supporter.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/06/05/480864303/trumps-african-american-i-am-not-a-trump-supporter

Trump gives press credentials to white supremacist radio host.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/donald-trump-gives-interview-pres-credentials-to-white-supremacist/

Trump discriminated against Native-Americans as well.

http://www.courant.com/business/dan-haar/hc-haar-donald-trump-connecticut-indians-weicker-20150810-column.html

Six former contestants of The Apprentice blast Trump as a racist and sexist.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/former-apprentice-contestants-denounce-donald-trump-s-candidacy-n556306

Trumps father was arrested for attacking police officers at KKK rally.

http://boingboing.net/2015/09/09/1927-news-report-donald-trump.html
http://addictinginfo.org/2015/09/09/donald-trumps-dad-was-arrested-during-kkk-rally-that-attacked-two-police-officers/
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fred-trump-arrest-1927-kkk

Public Policy Polling polls Trump supporters and discovers:

60% Support banning Muslims from entering the United States

50% Support the Confederate flag hanging on the capital grounds

30% Support shutting down all mosques in the United States

30% Wish the South won the civil war

25% Islam should be illegal in the United States

25% Support the policy of Japanese Internment

20% Support banning homosexuals from entering the United States

10% Say Whites are a superior race

(11% aren’t sure one way or another)

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_SC_21616.pdf

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/one_out_of_three_trump_voters_in_sc_would_ban_gays_from_entering_the_u_s

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2016/02/guess-how-many-donald-trump-supporters-want-gay-people-barred-from-entering-america/

Trump refuses to condemn violence against muslims and African-Americans committed by his supporters.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-idUSKCN0WM0RJ
http://www.japantoday.com/category/world/view/trump-refuses-to-condemn-violence-at-his-rallies

When asked for comments on two of his supporters who brutally beat and urinated on a Hispanic homeless man while yelling Pro-Trump Slogans, Trump responds by defending the men as just being "passionate".

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/21/trump-says-fans-are-very-passionate-after-hearing-one-of-them-allegedly-assaulted-hispanic-man/
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/donald-trump-calls-boston-brothers-who-beat-homeless-hispanic-man-his-name-passionate-1516392
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/08/20/after-two-brothers-allegedly-beat-homeless-man-one-them-admiringly-quote-donald-trump-deporting-illegals/I4NXR3Dr7litLi2NB4f9TN/story.html

The Economist polls Trump supporters and discovers:

15% disapprove of slavery being abolished

- (Another 20% aren’t sure one way or another)

50% support the use of torture on foreign enemy combatants

- (Another 25% aren’t sure one way or another)

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/ctucuikdsj/econToplines.pdf

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/25/upshot/measuring-donald-trumps-supporters-for-intolerance.html?smid=tw-share&_r=2

http://time.com/4236640/donald-trump-racist-supporters/

80% of Trump's supporters claim to have no problem with racist comments.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/12/8o-percent-gop-voters-trumps-racist-comments-totally-fine.html

Trump falsely claims 4 out of 5 white people who were victims of homicide were murdered by blacks.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/23/donald-trump/trump-tweet-blacks-white-homicide-victims/

Trump believes that Mexicans are rapist by default.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi33KkhKRWs
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/07/08/donald-trumps-false-comments-connecting-mexican-immigrants-and-crime/

Trump tweeted an anti-semitic tweet likely depicting Hillary jewish.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-star-david-225058?cmpid=sf
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/749239879645687808
https://mic.com/articles/147711/donald-trump-s-star-of-david-hillary-clinton-meme-was-created-by-white-supremacists#.tfw8osmNX

The HRC David star tweet turned out to originate from a neo-nazi website.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DC_GOP_2016_TRUMP_TWEET?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-s-star-david-tweet-about-hillary-clinton-posted-n603161

Trump retweets quote from Italian Dictator Benito Mussolini.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35682844
http://time.com/4240330/donald-trump-benito-mussolini-quote/
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/28/donald-trump-retweets-post-likening-him-to-mussolini/

Trump uses picture of Nazi soldiers in official campaign poster.

https://news.vice.com/article/donald-trump-just-tweeted-and-deleted-a-picture-featuring-nazi-ss-soldiers?utm_source=vicenewstwitter
https://hosting site images not allowed/JDqBCXd.jpg

Trump's spokesman, Katrina Pierson, critized Obama for being "a negro" and not "pure-breed".

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jan/29/katrina-pierson-donald-trump-spokeswoman-defends-t/
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/top-trump-official-defends-call-for-pure-breed-president-obama-is-a-half-breed-and-so-am-i/
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/266845-trump-spokeswoman-defends-pure-breeds-tweet

Opinions of his supporters.

20% of Trump's supporters think that freeing the slaves was a bad thing. http://time.com/4236640/donald-trump-racist-supporters/

65% of Trump's supporters think Obama is a muslim. http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/05/gop-quickly-unifies-around-trump-clinton-still-has-modest-lead.html#more

64% of Trump's supporters think that "Muslims should be subject to more scrutiny" http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/05/11/trump-supporters-differ-from-other-gop-voters-on-foreign-policy-immigration-issues/?utm_content=buffer053ac&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Trump supporters are more likely than supporters of other Republican candidates to have negative feelings towards feminists, Muslims, Latinos, Gays and Lesbians, and Transgender people. In contrast, Trump supporters have far warmer feelings towards whites than supporters of other candidates. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-voters-versus-republicans_us_573b0ec0e4b060aa781b32ce

Trump's "muslim ban" is unconstitutional.

http://time.com/4139476/donald-trump-shutdown-muslim-immigration/
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2015/12/08/is-trumps-proposed-ban-on-muslim-entry-constitutional/
https://reason.com/blog/2016/03/03/donald-trump-enemy-of-the-constitution

Trump thinks that muslims should wear "special ID badges", as well as having a database tracking muslims.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/trump-crosses-the-nazi-line-maybe-muslims-should-wear-special-id-badges/
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/20/opinions/obeidallah-trump-anti-muslim/

Trump lies about how "muslims celebrated 9/11".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-911_us_565b1950e4b08e945feb7326
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/11/22/donald-trumps-outrageous-claim-that-thousands-of-new-jersey-muslims-celebrated-the-911-attacks/

Trump wants to racially profile to "prevent criminality".

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-idUSKCN0Z50PV
http://fortune.com/2016/06/19/trump-racial-profiling/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/19/donald-trump-proposes-racial-profiling-gun-control-nra

Trump had a full-page ad promoting execution of a group of Latino and Black children, who later turned out to be innocent.

Trump continued to believe that they were somehow guilty despite the DNA test.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/17/central-park-five-donald-trump-jogger-rape-case-new-york
http://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/donald-trump-and-the-central-park-five
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/325982969040879620?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

He believes that Obama was born in Kenya.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/apr/07/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-president-obamas-grandmother-cau/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/19/us/politics/donald-trump-obama-muslim.html?_r=0
https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate

He attacked Judge P. Curiel for his "Mexican heritage"

http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-keeps-up-attacks-on-judge-gonzalo-curiel-1464911442
http://www.forbes.com/sites/henrymiller/2016/06/30/greenpeace-more-dishonest-and-dangerous-than-the-mafia/#18d6cc541f44
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/06/no-judge-curiel-not-biased-against-donald-trump

Anne Frank's relatives thinks that Trump is 'acting like Hitler'.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/anne-franks-step-sister-says-donald-trump-is-acting-like-hitler-a6838531.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/27/politics/anne-frank-donald-trump-adolf-hitler/index.html

Trump was fined $200,000 in 1992 by the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement for not allowing blacks or women onto his casino floor while a racist Mafia leader was gambling.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/donald-trump-scandals/474726/
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/downashore/Trump-ties-to-mobster-racist-casino-policies-resurface-in-new-report.html

Trump kicked the only black Republican official out of an Atlanta Trump event with no explanation.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/black-georgia-gop-official-booted-from-atlanta-trump-event-with-no-explanation/
 
lovedogs|1485549297|4120776 said:
ruby59|1485545101|4120740 said:
Article was posted by Deb because a white man hurt a Muslim woman.

If it was white on white or black on black - in the name of Trump - would she have posted it just the same.

Hate crime or violence - someone was hurt badly. Does it really matter why?

You literally cannot be serious. "Does it matter?" OF COURSE IT DOES!!! Why else would "hate crime" be a distinction? Your level of ignorance about this is appalling.


So if a black man and white man clash and call each other names during it - it is a hate crime.

And if a black man and a white man clash - and neither let their true feelings be known - it is just violence.

Again, what the H*ll is the difference?
 
lovedogs|1485547119|4120757 said:
ruby59|1485545101|4120740 said:
AGBF|1485531828|4120637 said:
arkieb1|1485506740|4120532 said:
Deb, the saddest thing is that for every one of those incidents Trump supporters justify these reports with more of their own as you can see above.

You are right. ruby is not using any logic in what she posted.

ruby-

What the hell does an attack on a Trump supporter have to do with an attack on a Muslim?

One is a hate crime.
The other is just an act of political recrimination. Both parties do it. The attacks against Jews in Nazi Germany were not just attacks by the National Socialist Party members against Communist Party members or vice versa. You are a Jew. You know this.

Get a grip, woman! :read:

Deb


Hate crime - read the articles again as to the 3 black men who beat that man. The coward who hit the man with the flag pole had his face covered.

ruby-

There is a difference between a reprehensible crime and a hate crime. In my opinion, it is actually more reprehensible for a father to beat his toddler to death because he won't be quiet, a fairly common occurrence in the United States, than for a teenager to spray paint a swastika on a Jewish temple (your mileage may vary). Nonetheless, the former is not a hate crime and the latter is.

Deb
 
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