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tlroyce1

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I was hoping to find a H&A in a G color right at 1.5ct, but that looks like its not going to hapen. So now I''m debating between these two stones:

I am worried about getting the I over the H, but was hoping the cut would make up for it.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

1.52ct H&A ACA 9255 I SI2
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-1466950.htm

1.56 ct ES H SI2
http://www.whiteflash.com/round_ideal_cut/Round-Ideal-Cut-cut-diamond-1181445.htm#

In this setting:
http://www.whiteflash.com/Engagement-Rings/Styles/Solitaire/Classic-tiffany-style-Knife-Edge_1137.htm
 
If clarity is not an issue for you, I would consider the H SI2; however, there is an inclusion right under the table that is quite visible from the IdealScope image. There''s no info for the other stone yet.
 
They both have potential. I personally would call WF and ask them to compare for you. They are the ones that can literally put the diamonds on the same piece of fabric and look at them. Make sure your definition of eye clean matches theirs too!
 
I guess I could go smaller. They have a 1.35ct, I really wanted a 1.5 though...

The rep I spoke with said they were both eye clean, and yes I can see the inclusion on the idealscope image quite well.

No one thinks the color will be a problem? I could go down to a J I guess if people think clarity may be more the bigger concern.

Thanks
-Terry
 
HI:

From Nice Ice Inventory: H, VS1, 1.50. GIA XX

http://www.niceice.com/certcopies2008/gia10597224/gia10597224.jpg

http://www.niceice.com/certcopies2008/gia10597224/index.htm

ETA:

Bigger stone, J color.....Dutton Diamonds.....thought I'd throw it out there.....
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AGS, H/A, Cut by Infinity.....

http://www.diamondexpert.com/diamonds/dbs.cgi?sf=detd.setup.cgi&active=active&stock=RB60105731&submit_search=1

cheers--Sharon
 
Date: 9/30/2008 10:30:34 PM
Author: tlroyce1
I guess I could go smaller. They have a 1.35ct, I really wanted a 1.5 though...

The rep I spoke with said they were both eye clean, and yes I can see the inclusion on the idealscope image quite well.

No one thinks the color will be a problem? I could go down to a J I guess if people think clarity may be more the bigger concern.

Thanks
-Terry
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Did you see this one?

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-906729.htm#

And again, you would need to ask if eyeclean. Don''t pay attention to the plots and pics, they aren''t representitive of what the stone is/may be in real life.
 
Should not be a problem if WF says both are eye-clean, I would go with the I SI2 stone since it scored better on the HCA. Color should not be a factor face up in a well cut RB.
 
Date: 10/1/2008 9:41:38 AM
Author: Stone-cold11
Should not be a problem if WF says both are eye-clean, I would go with the I SI2 stone since it scored better on the HCA. Color should not be a factor face up in a well cut RB.
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That's because of the C&P angle combo on the H. However, a good IS pic overrides the HCA. So either of the two he picked would be fine.
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True.. :P
 
Ellen thanks I did see this one http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-906729.htm#

If I went with that one I would be 2k over budget when done, I was just hoping there would be something between the two in the next few days.

Honestly, how much difference is there between the ACA and the ES? If the ES will appear whiter to the eye because of the color I would lean toward that, however like I said I am hoping the better cut on the I will make up for the difference.
 
Are you going for a H&A? If so, only the ACA is a confirm H&A, the ES stone is most likely in the ES because it has slightly worse optical sym compared to the ACA thus not able to form the H&A pattern to qualify for as a ACA cut.

I don''t think the ES will appear whiter in a face up comparison.
 
Stone cold, thanks for the reply. I guess the question I meant to ask is, is there a HUGE noticeable difference between the two?

Is there a side by side picture comparison anywhere online.
 
Date: 10/1/2008 11:34:06 AM
Author: tlroyce1
Ellen thanks I did see this one http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-906729.htm#

If I went with that one I would be 2k over budget when done, I was just hoping there would be something between the two in the next few days.

Honestly, how much difference is there between the ACA and the ES? If the ES will appear whiter to the eye because of the color I would lean toward that, however like I said I am hoping the better cut on the I will make up for the difference.
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Oh, ok. I couldn't find a budget anywhere in here, and was just going on you saying you had wanted a G at 1.50. No problem!

That H is a nicely cut stone, but if you're struggling I would suggest calling WF and ask to speak with Brian. Have him compare the two and give you his thoughts.
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I had set myself at 10k for the stone. However, if I had to go over I would. I just wanted to stay as close as possible.
I just want to get the best stone possible and stay as close to 10k as I could.

I have been speaking with Traci at WF, who is Brian?

Thanks
-Terry
 
Brian Gavin is a fifth-generation diamond cutter and was family-trained in South Africa. In 1995 his company, Alpha Creations, became one of the first to specialize in the highly sough-after and technically perfect ‘Hearts and Arrows diamonds‘

Brian Gavin personally contributed towards the perfection of the Hearts and Arrows cut by introducing a ‘modification‘ under the name ‘A Cut Above.‘ This was the first branded 'Hearts and Arrows' cut and sold exclusively on the Internet. The ‘A Cut Above‘ (ACA) line of ‘superideal‘ diamonds are known for theirVisual Balance.



Basically, one of the founder of WF and started the ACA line. Ask for his advice.

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There is no way to tell the difference between the 2 stones just by viewing pictures as alot of factors are involved in the picture quality of the stone. So the best way is to ask for Brian's advice.
 
I will have to give them a call later thanks for the info.

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It looks good, check it is eyeclean according to your requirements.
 
Sorry, I tried to post both, but the H&A image was too big, I was just trying to do side by side, other than some color symetrey the arrows and all looked about the same.

I''m just trying to find a "mind clean" stone as well.

I left a message with WF to help me compare.

Thanks
-Terry
 
I guess its part of the hearts. I looks like an arrow under the point of the heart near the center, on the lower left side. sorry.
 
Date: 10/2/2008 12:00:33 PM
Author: tlroyce1
I guess its part of the hearts. I looks like an arrow under the point of the heart near the center, on the lower left side. sorry.
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I see what you mean but I don't think it would be an issue, check with your WF rep if you are concerned. WOW - thats a stunner alright, they have loaded the other pic of the diamond!!!
 
Yap, the pic of the Rb in face up is amazing... Best I have seen so far.

Hearts pic is a little wonky I admit... maybe also a picture error? Give the sales rep a call.
 
Yes, it looks much better than I thought for an SI2.

I think I''m leaning towards getting a Palladium tiffany knife edge. My girlfriend is very active, and I don''t want the platinum to discolor or get scratched.

Thoughts, before I wire transfer ?
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This was supposed to be on the last post.

I always have trouble with the pics.

Thanks to everyone for their help during my search.
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The stone is incredible!! Have no fears about the cut, it is excellent. I think you made a great choice, this one looks a little cleaner than the H/SI2. It will face up very white with the gorgeous cut!
 
Date: 10/1/2008 12:29:55 PM
Author: tlroyce1
I had set myself at 10k for the stone. However, if I had to go over I would. I just wanted to stay as close as possible.
I just want to get the best stone possible and stay as close to 10k as I could.

I have been speaking with Traci at WF, who is Brian?

Thanks
-Terry
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Quite simply - an angel, sent from heaven to find sparklies for people everywhere
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I am very excited. And I do agree that there appear to be much less inclusions than the H.

I''m stoked.
 
I am in LOVE with your rock!!! PLEASE post pics when you get it!
 
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