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Confused. Does this diamond look cloudy/hazy on video?

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Edie

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1.90 Carat round diamond

This True Hearts TM diamond, 1.9 carat K color vvs2 clarity has ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from AGS
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Hi,
This diamond has medium fluoresence but does it look cloudy on the video. Thanks in advance.
 
No, it does not look cloudy. The medium fluorescence most likely doesnt have any
effect on it but you can ask JA if you are concerned.
 
tyty333 said:
No, it does not look cloudy. The medium fluorescence most likely doesnt have any
effect on it but you can ask JA if you are concerned.
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Thanks. I did ask the JA sales assistant who said it was cloudy...hence my confusion as I thought it looked ok too
 
Did you get the AGS report so we can see what the VVS2 is based on? Please post it.

I'm thinking that SA is smoking something!:eek-2::bigsmile:
 
I looks like a fully transparent diamond. The depth of the K color seems exaggerated. Likely, in real world lighting, the K color won't seem so readily apparent. The video isn't a great sales tool for this diamond, but does appear even more than honest on the color.
 
oldminer said:
I looks like a fully transparent diamond. The depth of the K color seems exaggerated. Likely, in real world lighting, the K color won't seem so readily apparent. The video isn't a great sales tool for this diamond, but does appear even more than honest on the color.
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Thanks. I did think the yellow was very obvious. It is reassuring that it may be less so in RL.
 
The SA was more than helpful but did they give you the right (correct) info?
Are they saying that the Med Fluor is causing the stone to be cloudy/hazy?
 
I see some obvious graining on the 360 video. I wouldn't choose that stone. I'm also a crazy perfectionist, though. That might not bother anyone else
 
I think it’s stunning and I do not believe it will be hazy at all.
 
tyty333 said:
The SA was more than helpful but did they give you the right (correct) info?
Are they saying that the Med Fluor is causing the stone to be cloudy/hazy?
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I thought that's what op was saying (that the SA said the stone was cloudy due to fluor). But maybe I read wrong
 
The grading report is 3 years old, that could be a concern because this stone might have been pre owned and traded it in for an upgrade. Either way the report is not recent...
 
tyty333 said:
The SA was more than helpful but did they give you the right (correct) info?
Are they saying that the Med Fluor is causing the stone to be cloudy/hazy?
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They said that the stone has fluorescence and that is associated with cloudiness/ haziness to which I queried was that in general or specific to this stone. The reply...' in general'. I then asked for specifics of the stone we were looking at and the SA drew a red line outside the periphery of the table and said that was haziness.
They didn't continue the conversation or offer other alternative diamonds.
 
@Edie —if you’re not set on JamesAllen, and willing to drop down a bit in clarity and pay a few hundred more, you can get a much better upgrade policy for a similar diamond at WhiteFlash.

Diamond | 1.910 ct K VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4287223

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.910 carat K color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4287223
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I have not personally done business with WhiteFlash, but based on various posts here on PS, customer service seems likely to be much better.
 
jp201845 said:
The grading report is 3 years old, that could be a concern because this stone might have been pre owned and traded it in for an upgrade. Either way the report is not recent...
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Hi. Id be grateful if you could let me know why would a 3 year old grading report may be of concern....do grading systems change? Thanks.
 
Miss Marple said:
@Edie —if you’re not set on JamesAllen, and willing to drop down a bit in clarity and pay a few hundred more, you can get a much better upgrade policy for a similar diamond at WhiteFlash.

Diamond | 1.910 ct K VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4287223

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.910 carat K color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4287223
www.whiteflash.com

I have not personally done business with WhiteFlash, but based on various posts here on PS, customer service seems likely to be much better.
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Thanks Miss Marple. No, Im not set on any vendor but I have backed my self into a corner! I am looking for a diamond to match a J diamond with strong blue fluoresence (Not at all cloudy...a beautiful diamond) to make a pair of stud earrings. It has really narrowed my field though and this diamond did seem a reasonable match in size, table and depth, medium fluoresence etc. Granted it is a K colour but I was hoping the match would be close enough. Unfortunately, Whiteflash diamonds usually don't have fluoresence.
 
Miss Marple said:
@Edie —if you’re not set on JamesAllen, and willing to drop down a bit in clarity and pay a few hundred more, you can get a much better upgrade policy for a similar diamond at WhiteFlash.

Diamond | 1.910 ct K VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4287223

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.910 carat K color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4287223
www.whiteflash.com

I have not personally done business with WhiteFlash, but based on various posts here on PS, customer service seems likely to be much better.
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Hi again Miss Marple. I had another look on Whiteflash and this diamond is a reasonable match. Unfortunately I don't have all the info I need as the cert is from 2004.....I can't do a HCA check on it. Is it possibledo you know, to get a more recent certification done? Another poster mentioned that old certs can be a concern.

 
Edie said:
Hi again Miss Marple. I had another look on Whiteflash and this diamond is a reasonable match. Unfortunately I don't have all the info I need as the cert is from 2004.....I can't do a HCA check on it. Is it possibledo you know, to get a more recent certification done? Another poster mentioned that old certs can be a concern.

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You dont need to run HCA on super ideal cuts. But I would email about the cert. The concern isnt that grading changes but more that if it's a stone someone traded in then you want to make sure there is no damage or anything
 
Edie said:
Thanks Miss Marple. No, Im not set on any vendor but I have backed my self into a corner! I am looking for a diamond to match a J diamond with strong blue fluoresence (Not at all cloudy...a beautiful diamond) to make a pair of stud earrings. It has really narrowed my field though and this diamond did seem a reasonable match in size, table and depth, medium fluoresence etc. Granted it is a K colour but I was hoping the match would be close enough. Unfortunately, Whiteflash diamonds usually don't have fluoresence.
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Do you have a report and photos of your current stone that you can share?

Matching can be more challenging but it is 100% doable!
 
yssie said:
Do you have a report and photos of your current stone that you can share?

Matching can be more challenging but it is 100% doable!
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Thanks Yssie... would reallyIMG20210330144043.jpg appreciate some help! I have attached the cert.
 
lovedogs said:
You dont need to run HCA on super ideal cuts. But I would email about the cert. The concern isnt that grading changes but more that if it's a stone someone traded in then you want to make sure there is no damage or anything
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That makes sense. Thanks Love dogs!
 
Miss Marple said:
@Edie —not sure where the 2004 cert came from. The WF cert is from July 2020.

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Apologies Miss Marple. I'm looking at a different diamond from White flash....one that has some fluorescence to match the diamond I'm trying to pair.

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Edie said:
Thanks Yssie... would reallyIMG20210330144043.jpg appreciate some help! I have attached the cert.
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Okay - we’ve got some potentially nontrivial painting here. The AGS computer generated light return estimate can overstate the real-world visibility but there’s definitely enough to try to match for. I had wondered why you’d selected this potential mate from JA, makes sense now.
 
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Sorry. Had an edit but apparently forgot to submit it. I'll take a poke around after work.
 
Well. @Edie having trawled JA, B2C, BlueNile... I think the stone that you found is the best match! The combo of flourescence, 8mm size, and painting is apparently rather rare - the one you found is both the closest match AND the least pricey of all the options I shortlisted to compare!

I see that it's no longer available. Did you put it on hold?

Agree with previous posters re. Potential haziness. Misinformation from JA sales reps is unfortunately not uncommon.
 
yssie said:
Well. @Edie having trawled JA, B2C, BlueNile... I think the stone that you found is the best match! The combo of flourescence, 8mm size, and painting is apparently rather rare - the one you found is both the closest match AND the least pricey of all the options I shortlisted to compare!

I see that it's no longer available. Did you put it on hold?

Agree with previous posters re. Potential haziness. Misinformation from JA sales reps is unfortunately not uncommon.
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Thanks so much for putting time into looking for me Yssie☺️ . Yes, I have it on hold...just second guessing myself now as to whether I could do better if I wait!? I don't need VVS clarity. Decision time!
 
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