Confused about this term...

[Bia]

Eyeclean.

When a diamond is said to be "eyeclean" does that not mean one should NOT see any inclusions or imperfections when looking at the stone w/out the scope? In my diamond research, many of the stones I have come across (those w/ pics provided) are included and I can often see the inclusions. Some very noticeable for a SI1. Is the stone magnified therefore the inclusions will not be noticeable once the diamond is set?

Confused, as you can see. Please help this newbie out! TIA!

Bia

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/25/2008 10:05:43 AM
Author:Bia
Eyeclean.

When a diamond is said to be 'eyeclean' does that not mean one should NOT see any inclusions or imperfections when looking at the stone w/out the scope? In my diamond research, many of the stones I have come across (those w/ pics provided) are included and I can often see the inclusions. Some very noticeable for a SI1. Is the stone magnified therefore the inclusions will not be noticeable once the diamond is set?

Confused, as you can see. Please help this newbie out! TIA!

Bia

This thread should help! https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/clarity-eye-clean-definition-interpretation-and-taste.30483/

Also the images are often greatly magnified for the purpose of showing inclusions, it should say on each picture.

Basically the industry definition appears to be - no inclusions visible face up in normal light with normal vision at arms length - or words to that effect. So it is important to know your personal definition of what you expect from an eyeclean diamond, and to let your vendor know that. If you don't want to see any inclusions from any angle or view of the diamond at close scrutiny, then make sure the vendor knows that.

Also SI clarities are not created equal, each needs evaluating individually. Some may be eyeclean from all angles and at close scrutiny, others may not be. Also various factors can influence whether a diamond is eyeclean or not, such as the size of the stone, size, type, colour, location of the inclusion etc, the above thread will go into greater detail

 

[Bia]

Thanks Lorelei! John''s thread and your post answered my questions. I guess it is important, if clarity is highly important to the buyer, to see the stone in person before purchasing...

Big help...much appreciated!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/25/2008 10:34:16 AM
Author: Bia
Thanks Lorelei! John''s thread and your post answered my questions. I guess it is important, if clarity is highly important to the buyer, to see the stone in person before purchasing...

Big help...much appreciated!

You are most welcome! Don''t forget if buying online, the very useful role an experienced and trusted vendor can play, in advising you whether a diamond is eyeclean to your standards or not!

 

[denverappraiser]

Eyeclean. Adjective A term used by people in the diamond trade to describe stones that they think will sell better when described that way.

There is no industry accepted definition and you’ll notice that none of the respected labs use it. The problem is that how a diamond looks to your eyes depends on several things. The diamond, the lighting environment, your eyes and your brain.

For my friend Julie, bless her heart, a sugar cube is eyeclean and in a sufficiently dark room a piece of concrete will look the same as the best diamond out there. People inherently understand these two but the brain part is even more slippery. How you perceive things is complicated and it depends on things like whether you know what to look for and even what your expectations are. Eyeclean to one person may not be to another and eyeclean in one environment is going to look different to the same person in a different environment.

You are relying on the seller to give you his or her honest opinion about the stone in whatever lighting they choose to use. A good dealer will be happy to do that because they are no more interested in a return than you are but this is the same level of grading as when a car dealer tells you that a particular car is a ‘creampuff’.

Neil Beaty
GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA
Professional Jewelry Appraisals in Denver

 

[Bia]

Thanks Neil! I am understanding better. It really is a personal--i.e., your definition of eye-clean might not be mine, or someone elses. I guess the pictures I have seen are somewhat magnified, therefore inclusions are more visable.

Thanks for sharing.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 6/25/2008 11:22:57 AM
Author: Bia
Thanks Neil! I am understanding better. It really is a personal--i.e., your definition of eye-clean might not be mine, or someone elses. I guess the pictures I have seen are somewhat magnified, therefore inclusions are more visable.

Thanks for sharing.

or when you get to my age....every stone is "eye clean"

 

[merlinthecat]

Ah...the master has joined us!

If it pleases you DF, and for documentation/reference purposes, please give us your definition of ''mind clean''

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 6/25/2008 12:15:28 PM
Author: merlinthecat
Ah...the master has joined us!

If it pleases you DF, and for documentation/reference purposes, please give us your definition of 'mind clean'

mind clean = when a beautiful Brit girl walks in front of me

i don't get an inappropriate picture in my mind.