Comments on this OEC: Worth additional information?

[Dreamer_D]

Some photos first and then the specs and my concerns.

It is being offered for sale locally at my friendly pawn shop with also consigns jewelery. I took all these photos. I have examined it with a loupe and a high powered microscope and spoken with the owner who is a GG.

Glamour shots first.

 

[Dreamer_D]

The larger stone has an appraisal suggesting it is a 1.25ct H-I-J color stone.

It has 6.9mm of exposed diamond face. As you can see in the photos, a good portion of the diamond is covered by the crappy bezel -- notice how a larger chunk of the kite facets are covered? I think loose it is over 7mm, and given its make, I think it is heavier than 1.25ct.

The color grade seems accurate. I compared it to my EGL graded I color OEC and they look the same. This is a very white stone for an OEC.

The cut is obviously phenomenal.

The issue is clarity. The appraiser said I1. You can see the issue in the photos. More shortly.

 

[Dreamer_D]

More shots.

 

[bright ice]

It's a beautiful stone. Is the clarity issue a chip at the girdle? Also, is there a feather running close to the surface?

 

[Dreamer_D]

More.

I have some close ups of clarity in a second BI.

 

[Mayk]

The chip brightice mentioned and then something going on around 3 O'clock... if I'm giving an uneducation guess... But it's lovely and what a collection of diamonds!!! So much to plan for!!!

 

[Dreamer_D]

The clarity grade the appraiser gave is based on the inclusion and chips you can see exposed where the girdle is pressed back. There is some chipping on the girdle that maybe can be polished away. In the same location is an inclusion that looks like a feather or something. It has some blakish markings on it that I am pretty sure are dirt. I think the stone got knocked in that area at some point, there are some minor sirface scratches in the same location; coupled with the pressed back bezel and chipping on the exposed girdle it makes me think a blow to the stone.

My question is whether it is worth having the stone looked at mounted by an appraiser. It could not be local so there would be cost involved in the appraisal.

Seller is offering 30 days money back. Price is firm at $3500 for the ring.

Thoughts?

 

[Dreamer_D]

Here is a closer shot of the inclusion. You cannot see it in person. Looking at these images makes me think it is from damage and too risky. But I am not sure. It is less scary under the microscope. Because of the cost involved in having is assessed I would like to get closer to knowing an answer before I proceed.

 

[TravelingGal]

Wellll....whaddaya going to do with this stone? Is it big enough to scratch the itch you are having and be the stone you actually set in the setting you want and wear?

Personally knowing it is chipped, I'd pass. It's one thing to be stuck with a stone and discover a bad wound later, but knowing in advance, hm.

IMHO, you need to find your holy grail 2 carat stone with the right cut you want. Unless you're thinking of reselling at this point and think you can easily recoup your money.

 

[TravelingGal]

btw, then are you thinking of reselling the smaller stone, thereby making the larger stone an even bigger deal for yourself?

It also seems to me that you love a deal. But remember, as they say, a deal really isn't a deal unless you are getting exactly what you want. What do you want, Dreamer?

 

[TravelingGal]

btw, if this works out, set it along with the studs you have into a monster 3 stone ring. That would rock.

 

[justginger]

I am, by NO means, a clarity snob. If I can't see it from 9 inches or so, I could care less. But an inclusion like that, which you have worked out is likely due to a damaging blow, would probably make me head in the other direction. I would be uncomfortable and constantly wonder if one of my own little knocks would send it shattering.

What sort of cost for appraisal would you be expecting?

There is no doubt it is a lovely stone - I really love the faceting, though I tend to personally prefer warmer stones. You've got such a great eye for this, D. Trust your OWN gut.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Pretty stone, but I personally wouldn't consider it because of the clarity issues (and I am sure that is not a surprise coming from me!). Slight girdle chips that can easily be polished is my limit on old stones.

 

[SparklyOEC]

I love the faceting on the stones, but there could be additional damage that's hidden by the bezels? If not though, then I'm all for a good polishing by the right person. I'm assuming you'd take these out of the current mounting so only you can decide if it's worth the risk or not.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Thanks everyone. I have decided to pass on this for now. I think given the issues it is still overpriced. It just went on consignment. I don't see it selling anytime soon, so if its there and they come down to the price I offered initially -- $2500 -- then I might think about it. A similar stone sold on ebay a while back for $1500 so that is my benchmark.

When I first saw it I thought the inclusion was only a grey feather, internal only. But now that I have seen it in macro and using the microscope at the pawn shop (yes, they have one, so funny), ans I saw the greater issues. Well that means more risk which means lower price in my world. Onwards and upwards.

Pity, the cut is so perfect and the color is right up my alley.

 

[TravelingGal]

Thanks everyone. I have decided to pass on this for now. I think given the issues it is still overpriced. It just went on consignment. I don't see it selling anytime soon, so if its there and they come down to the price I offered initially -- $2500 -- then I might think about it. A similar stone sold on ebay a while back for $1500 so that is my benchmark.

When I first saw it I thought the inclusion was only a grey feather, internal only. But now that I have seen it in macro and using the microscope at the pawn shop (yes, they have one, so funny), ans I saw the greater issues. Well that means more risk which means lower price in my world. Onwards and upwards.

Pity, the cut is so perfect and the color is right up my alley.

Lol, a similar stone sold for 1500 and you don't own it? Girl, you are getting slack on eBay.

Hold out for your 2c dreamer, it is what your heart wants, methinks.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Thanks everyone. I have decided to pass on this for now. I think given the issues it is still overpriced. It just went on consignment. I don't see it selling anytime soon, so if its there and they come down to the price I offered initially -- $2500 -- then I might think about it. A similar stone sold on ebay a while back for $1500 so that is my benchmark.

When I first saw it I thought the inclusion was only a grey feather, internal only. But now that I have seen it in macro and using the microscope at the pawn shop (yes, they have one, so funny), ans I saw the greater issues. Well that means more risk which means lower price in my world. Onwards and upwards.

Pity, the cut is so perfect and the color is right up my alley.

Lol, a similar stone sold for 1500 and you don't own it? Girl, you are getting slack on eBay.

Hold out for your 2c dreamer, it is what your heart wants, methinks.

Oh I saw it, and I was so close, but I was not in the market. I have a manta about this stuff: "There are always other diamonds." I'm going to put it in my tag line

Hmmm... maybe. But I won't pay for one. That's a pickle.

 

[TravelingGal]

Thanks everyone. I have decided to pass on this for now. I think given the issues it is still overpriced. It just went on consignment. I don't see it selling anytime soon, so if its there and they come down to the price I offered initially -- $2500 -- then I might think about it. A similar stone sold on ebay a while back for $1500 so that is my benchmark.

When I first saw it I thought the inclusion was only a grey feather, internal only. But now that I have seen it in macro and using the microscope at the pawn shop (yes, they have one, so funny), ans I saw the greater issues. Well that means more risk which means lower price in my world. Onwards and upwards.

Pity, the cut is so perfect and the color is right up my alley.

Lol, a similar stone sold for 1500 and you don't own it? Girl, you are getting slack on eBay.

Hold out for your 2c dreamer, it is what your heart wants, methinks.

Oh I saw it, and I was so close, but I was not in the market. I have a manta about this stuff: "There are always other diamonds." I'm going to put it in my tag line

Hmmm... maybe. But I won't pay for one. That's a pickle.

Your mantra is very true Dreamer. I said pretty much said same to the gentleman who bought my stone. He was wavering and I told him that when you let go of one, another will come along. With patience and time, one can usually fine exactly what one wants!