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cjfilm

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i,m a first time c/s purchasee, I did not realize the amount of research i should have done b4 the purchase. the set of rings are for my wife to be, its a precious jewel set. the engament ring is 1.60 tw. the wedding band is .50 ct. the set is all princess cut, 8 across her band /3 stones set on her engagement ring, the centr peice is a champagne yellow L color, it''s about a "B" measured against the masters, it''s set in the middle of two clear colorless diamonds I picked out both pcs. Now there is no problem with the stone nore the stones on the band. now the only research i have done was from store to store asking only what i know and recieveing only the answers to my questions,they gave me no free advise nor helpful information i could take away with me while window shopping. the specs. of the ring are not currently available off hand (i,m @ wrk.)

The question is : Many people have been telling me, "champagne colors are considered low class stones and hold low value after purchase". is this true or not and can someone explain?

Now i deffinitly did not buy the set based on the social facts, the purchase was made based on my fiance complextion, height, weight and beauty. She has actually seen the ring, but she thought it was the ring used to size her finger "she has never been ring shopping to know the instrument used for this task. besdides we went around to mant retailers in many cities that she forgot what the ring looks like. what everyone has to say does not matter and i could have posed the quest. straight to the point but i chose this route because it''s my first time here.
 
Date: 4/20/2005 10:26:22 PM
Author:cjfilm

a champagne yellow L color
Whether with brown or yellow or gray tint, L is L... Perhaps some would call this "champagne" or "B" or whatever. Those are just different names from different diamond grading scales. "A rose is a rose", I can't see why this stone would be more or less valuable than any other "L" graded by the same lab (certification seems to bring a difference in price).

The way you describe the stone "champagne - yellow" & "L" makes me think there is no lab report around. Is it so ? Who said this is "L" ?

True enough, "champagne" are less expensive than colorless. But the faint grade that "L" describes is not quite "champagne" in my mind. The color is too faint to be called that.

In principle, brown-tinted diamonds between approximatively J - L (GIA) are called "TTLB" (to-top-light-brown) and the more tinted M-O (GIA) "TLB" (top-light-brown). Not "champagne" - a name coined for Argile browns. I am not sure what institution came up with the "TTLB" / "TLB" names. You can find a presentation of the Argile scale DOWN HERE .

It's hard enough to keep track of all these commercial names...
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Just my 0.2.
 
thanks for the insight.

to answer your .2.0 I,ve only got the receipt with the weight. and $$ amount on it.
as of today 4 20 05. i compaired the color with other specs. and scales to find my close prox. guess.

what you think i should do about this


thank you for your response.
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I have to agree with Ana here.
If the diamond is noticably light yellow, it''s likely much darker than L. The difference between L and N is dramatic, for example.
Of course i''m talking about diamonds GIA gave that grade to.
An "L" without a GIA is just someone''s opinion- which may or not be accurate.

As far as your main question:
In many cases so called "Champagne" Diamonds are far less expensive than colorless or other fancy colors like yellow.
The same goes for the light yellows-
These shades have gone up as white diamonds have risen.
So if you got a "rightous" deal on your ring, then it''s value retention is good.

I would be absolutely thiriled to buy back the larger light yellow diamonds we sold 2-5 years ago - I''m sure sellers of champagnes feel the same way about desirable light brown, or darker stones they''ve sold years past. All diamonds are up.

When people paid a high price, then it takes a while for the value to come back.
Therfore the question of value retention is directly related to the price paid.

I hope this helps
 
in term of grade colour i gave it this grade "L" myself for the reason it looks similar to the "L" on scale thats on the web page i had visit today
so its more just a realistic guess. how and where can i visit to find the information or class of stone i have purchased?

thank you for your response.
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Date: 4/20/2005 11:28:49 PM
Author: cjfilm
in term of grade colour i gave it this grade 'L' myself for the reason it looks similar to the 'L' on scale thats on the web page i had visit today


Nooooooooooooooo !
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Those charts are hugely exaggerated - or just all over the place. It is just not possible to reproduce diamond colors online: they are just too slight... Too bad those charts do not come with a HUGE disclaimer saying that they only present a concept not a "grading instrument". What they show is (short of ?) deceptive, really.



I can't even know what you saw on your computer screen, since each computer tells colors differently

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And the difference between diamond color grades is definitely slight enough to be completely swamped by the color calibration of monitors.



You might want to ask the help of an appraiser to grade that stone. If none such business is around things might get complicated. You could try to locate a properly graded diamond of comparable size (say, above 1 ct) in a jewelry shop and take a look. But finding an "L" would be hard. And comparing with neighbor grades not very informative.



Sorry for the aggravated tone above. I am trying not to exaggerate.

 
no worries the truth is admirable

thank you
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