color vs. clarity

[Kissmark]

I''m sure this has been asked many times before but please help me! ALL ELSE EQUAL, would you choose E/VS2 or F/VS1? I am making final decisions. Thanks so much!!

 

[gobolegz]

E VS2

 

[WorkingHardforSmallRewards]

It is probably not going to matter much either way, however the deciding factor will be in the nature of the inclusions.

Some VS2's have black color or certain types of inclusions that can be visible in certain angles and lighting, if any of these were present I would go with the F without hesitation. That being said, diamond color is present throughout the whole stone, whereas inclusions are located at particular points--assuming it isn't positioned so as to have some disastrous reflecting. So if they are both eye clean in whatever way you define eye clean, I would go ahead and get the E. You could go VS1 and reduce even loupe visible inclusions, or choose the E and just about guarantee that even the sharpest eyed cats not going to see the difference from a D in mounted "living conditions" to use my own phrase.

On much reflecting I chose the E VS2 for myself. Though I think that the size of your diamond is going to be important, if I were buying a 3ct online I would probably choose the F VS1 for fear of somewhat larger inclusions making the grade, but around 1ct I would say EVS2, but then again, if it is that size purchase you really should go and see them in person.

 

[snlee]

Assuming both VS''s are eye clean, I would choose the E VS2.

 

[Kissmark]

Date: 6/29/2007 1:40:15 AM
Author: snlee
Assuming both VS''s are eye clean, I would choose the E VS2.

Arent''s all VS''s eyeclean? or not necessarily so? excuse this dumb question. The diamond will be around 1.2 or 1.25 carat.

 

[gobolegz]

From GOG:
Diamonds that are graded VS in clarity are still very impressive looking diamonds under a microscope. Of course nothing is visible at all to the human eye.

 

[snlee]

Date: 6/29/2007 2:02:56 AM
Author: Kissmark

Date: 6/29/2007 1:40:15 AM

Author: snlee

Assuming both VS's are eye clean, I would choose the E VS2.

Arent's all VS's eyeclean? or not necessarily so? excuse this dumb question. The diamond will be around 1.2 or 1.25 carat.

You usually don't have to worry about inclusions with VS's. Something like 1 in 100 people can see VS2 inclusions. Sorry, I didn't mean to say you have to worry about the VS stones being eye clean.

If you want to post the two diamonds you are considering, we can help you out.

 

[WorkingHardforSmallRewards]

I know I have seen you around, in which case my first four paragraphs be beating a dead horse if you have read any of my posts before.

All VS2's are not eye clean, there are sometimes dark inclusions that can be visible from the table, but from the research I have done that is very rare for a RB.

Further, a moderate number of VS2's some inclusions that can be seen from the pavilion side (especially black ones). Often times, as was my experience, they are difficult to locate and require the right color background and looking at it at just the right angle. This may or may not be an issue to you. There are also times, as mine did very slightly when viewed at certain angles, that the inclusion can be positioned in such a way that it will reflect multiple times and thus be clearly visible from the pavilion side. Again, this may or may not be an issue for you.

You can bassically take it to the bank that any random VS2 is going to be eye clean from the top, but if you require any other conditions then it is up to you to ask the right questions and find out. Most people don't really care about that though.

Now this is not to put you off of VS2, as a very large number have absolutly no visible inclusions no matter the conditions.

Thus I personally think it is worth the effort to get an E VS2 for the point I made above, color is all throughout the diamond, and well placed white/clear inclusions are going to be invisible. So in that case it really should be a no brainer for appearance.

But it sounds to me like you are asking which one "sounds" better, or represents more prestige and quality. In that case I am inclined to say the FVS1 will be better becuause you are in the "colorless" range of diamonds and you are in the clarity range that has historically been known as the benchmark for the beginning of very high quality diamonds (Consider how Tiffany historically has not allowed anything below VS1 in their Ering purchases) and obviously you are at the very upper end of "Very slightly included" which just sounds great. Thus if it is purely for title and on paper "appearance" then I think F VS1 is def. the way to go. For slightly, most likely imperceptible, visual appearance without a loupe I believe its a clear cut answer of E VS2.

 

[kcoursolle]

Honestly, neither the E/F jump or the VS1-2 difference is probably discernable to the naked eye. Get the cheaper one if they are both well cut or the better cut one if they aren''t both well-cut.

Personally, I think they are both color and clarity overkill and I would get an H/SI1 to save money or go larger. It would still be very white and many SI''s are eye clean.

 

[Kaleigh]

Not all VS2''s are eye clean. That''s a misunderstanding. Many times they are, but to make a generalization like that is incorrect. I''ve seen some that have noticeable inclusions. So work with your vendor, did they tell you the nature of the inclusions, are they white?? It''s kind of like when people say you can''t find a SI2 that''s eye clean... Again that''s wrong as well. I have seen some very eye clean SI2''s.

You really have to go on a stone by stone basis.

 

[MWG]

Date: 6/29/2007 1:22:40 AM
Author:Kissmark
I''m sure this has been asked many times before but please help me! ALL ELSE EQUAL, would you choose E/VS2 or F/VS1? I am making final decisions. Thanks so much!!

Everything equal.......which stone looks the best in your eyes and what is the price difference?

 

[gladyskristen]

If I MUST choose between the 2, I''d go for the E VS2, simply cos I feel tt colour is more obvious than clarity (I''m very colour sensitive). However, I''d actually rather look for a F, eyeclean SI1 or SI2, ideal cut so I can get a bigger stone!

 

[pyramid]

Date: 6/29/2007 2:25:25 AM
Author: WorkingHardforSmallRewards
(Consider how Tiffany historically has not allowed anything below VS1 in their Ering purchases)

I believe Tiffany Ering purchases go down to I VS2. Was VS1 a limit they put on it in the past when you say historically?

 

[iheartscience]

I''d go for the cheaper one provided they''re the same size, eyeclean and equally well cut.

 

[chrono]

Date: 6/29/2007 9:21:43 AM
Author: thing2of2
I''d go for the cheaper one provided they''re the same size, eyeclean and equally well cut.

Ditto!

 

[WinkHPD]

Date: 6/29/2007 1:22:40 AM
Author:Kissmark
I''m sure this has been asked many times before but please help me! ALL ELSE EQUAL, would you choose E/VS2 or F/VS1? I am making final decisions. Thanks so much!!

All else being equal you have chosen two equal looking stones. Which one is less expensive?

You have not addressed cut, but I am pretty willing to be that the cuts will NOT be equal, there is where you will find the question to the answer. E - F, VS1 - VS2, those are rarity questions. Cut is the quality question.

Wink

 

[diasurfer]

If you are happy with either set of grades, I''d look for an F VS2 with same cut quality and get a bigger stone.

 

[junior35]

Date: 6/29/2007 12:54:15 PM
Author: diasurfer

If you are happy with either set of grades, I''d look for an F VS2 with same cut quality and get a bigger stone.

I would go further and go with G/H SI1 and make sure that the SI is on the side where a prong might cover it.Voila!Eye-clean.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

If you could give us the specs on both stones (including price), I''ll bet one would stand out more than the other. I wanted VS1 for my new diamond ring, but I did get VS2 for earrings. I can see an inclusion from the side on one of the VS2''s, but since it is an earring, it can''t be seen when worn.

 

[WorkingHardforSmallRewards]

I think we need to have a big PS party

 

[vespergirl]

THey will probably look exactly the same to the naked eye - I would go with the one that''s less espensive.