Clarity Statement - Confused

[ACN]

I was speaking with one of the online vendors on the phone this morning regarding some stones and this was the statement they said regarding SI clarity of the stone.

"The stone is eye clean from all angles. However, with an SI clarity, if you really search hard for an inclusion you will eventually find it."

Given this statement, I am really confused. If the stone is eye-clean, how can I find the inclusion? Also, what does "really search hard" mean (ie. If I look at it for 1 minute, I''ll find it...or do I need to examine it for like 10 minutes before I may pick up the inclusion?) I think I may give the dealer a call back to clarify this statement, but just wanted to hear some opinions on here regarding this statement.

I was really leaning towards a stone with an SI clarity, however, I don''t know if I should risk it and just go with a VS2.

 

[stone-cold11]

For example, if you look at it with a loupe then without again or compare it with the inclusion mapping of the stone. Some inclusions are easy to indentify again once the location, shape is known.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/10/2009 2:36:05 PM
Author:ACN
I was speaking with one of the online vendors on the phone this morning regarding some stones and this was the statement they said regarding SI clarity of the stone.

'The stone is eye clean from all angles. However, with an SI clarity, if you really search hard for an inclusion you will eventually find it.'

Given this statement, I am really confused. If the stone is eye-clean, how can I find the inclusion? Also, what does 'really search hard' mean (ie. If I look at it for 1 minute, I'll find it...or do I need to examine it for like 10 minutes before I may pick up the inclusion?) I think I may give the dealer a call back to clarify this statement, but just wanted to hear some opinions on here regarding this statement.

I was really leaning towards a stone with an SI clarity, however, I don't know if I should risk it and just go with a VS2.

This is a tricky one as there are so many conflicting factors concerning the eyecleanliness of a diamond such as individual eyesights, the type of inclusion, location, colour, cut of the diamond etc etc. The best thing to do is to be extremely clear with the vendor what your expectations are. If for example you don't want to see any inclusions from any angle at close scrutiny, then make sure you tell them that so you are both on the same page.

This thread should be helpful also.

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/clarity-eye-clean-definition-interpretation-and-taste.30483/

As to how long it would take to find the inclusion is anyone's guess, once you have found it though you will locate it easily again as your eye normally goes there automatically. Also ask the WF rep at what distance they were inspecting the diamond in and whether the inclusion can be seen face up or from the side. Sometimes vendors judge eyecleanliness at arms length face up so do check how they were performing the exam.

 

[Todd Gray]

Date: 6/10/2009 2:36:05 PM
Author:ACN
I was speaking with one of the online vendors on the phone this morning regarding some stones and this was the statement they said regarding SI clarity of the stone.

''The stone is eye clean from all angles. However, with an SI clarity, if you really search hard for an inclusion you will eventually find it.''

Given this statement, I am really confused. If the stone is eye-clean, how can I find the inclusion? Also, what does ''really search hard'' mean (ie. If I look at it for 1 minute, I''ll find it...or do I need to examine it for like 10 minutes before I may pick up the inclusion?) I think I may give the dealer a call back to clarify this statement, but just wanted to hear some opinions on here regarding this statement.

I was really leaning towards a stone with an SI clarity, however, I don''t know if I should risk it and just go with a VS2.

Of course one has to take into account the reality that everybody has different vision and thus the definition of "eye clean" varies dramatically from person to person. Inclusions are easier detected by a person with 20/20 vision than by a person with less than perfect vision.

I see a lot of SI-1 clarity diamonds that are "eye clean" to me at first glance, but which are no longer eye clean after I loupe the stone, locate the inclusions and then look at the diamond again without magnification knowing what to look for... This further complicates the defined degrees of "eye clean". Further discussion with the vendor regarding the definition of "eye clean" and whether the inclusion can be seen without a loupe initially and/or after locating the inclusion with a loupe and then looking for the inclusions will answer the question for you. Personally I don''t mind an inclusion that is visible with "close scrutiny" in my opinion it adds a little character to the stone, most of my personal diamonds have been SI-1 / VS-2 clarity but awhile back I was given a 2.25 carat, I color, SI-2 with an inclusion that could be found with a little looking and it didn''t bother me a bit