Certification Cost?

[MrsM]

Does anyone know what the cost is to get a stone GIA vs EGL certified? I know there is a time difference with GIA being much longer, but is there a cost difference also? Are there different levels of certification??

 

[SDplaya]

Great question that I would love to know as well. meaning could you buy a EGL stone thats say F color and pay for it to be certified by GIA and they say G but you paid the EGL price + the GIA cert process. has anyone ever done this?

 

[denverappraiser]

Great question that I would love to know as well. meaning could you buy a EGL stone thats say F color and pay for it to be certified by GIA and they say G but you paid the EGL price + the GIA cert process. has anyone ever done this?

Here's the GIA US pricng structure.
https://www.gia.edu/lab-reports-services/fees_payment/lab_fees/Lab-Fee-Schedule-Diamond-US.pdf

EGL-USA is a little bit cheaper and a lot faster.

Yes, you can sometimes get an EGL-F graded as a GIA-G. You might even get a GIA-F. Then again, sometimes your EGL-F will be graded a GIA-I or worse. The fee from GIA will be the same and usually you have to buy the stone first so you own it whether or not you're happy with the results. Therein is the problem.

 

[bright ice]

So, I see just because you have a GIA graded stone, it does not mean it has the # inscription on the stone?

 

[denverappraiser]

So, I see just because you have a GIA graded stone, it does not mean it has the # inscription on the stone?

GIA offers 2 styles of reporting on natural diamonds below 2 carats. 'Dossier' reports have no plotting diagram on the report and there's a girdle inscription included as part of the service. 'Diamond Quality Reports' include a bit more information and the inscription is optional. In both cases you can have additional things inscribed for a small extra fee if you want.

 

[bright ice]

So, I see just because you have a GIA graded stone, it does not mean it has the # inscription on the stone?

GIA offers 2 styles of reporting on natural diamonds below 2 carats. 'Dossier' reports have no plotting diagram on the report and there's a girdle inscription included as part of the service. 'Diamond Quality Reports' include a bit more information and the inscription is optional. In both cases you can have additional things inscribed for a small extra fee if you want.

I just bought a 3.09ct OEC that has a GIA grading but it does not give me numbers like crown height, angle, etc. I can't find the inscription # on the girdle either.

 

[denverappraiser]

The iniscription is optional on all reports over 2 carats and it's common for the client to choose not to get it for a variety of reasons. It says in the comments section of the report if you should expect to find an inscription on your particular stone (if the inscription was there before the examination or if they did it at the same time they did the report).

The report format varies from one facet design to the next. The report for OEC's doesn't include a cut grade and they eliminate some of the data included on some of the other cuts. It there a little diagram near the bottom right corner of the report that looks like a diamond profile with an assortment of dimensions on it? That's where the proportion information is listed on their reports. They may be able to tell you more about your stone if you call them and ask about it. 1-800-421-7250

 

[bright ice]

The iniscription is optional on all reports over 2 carats and it's common for the client to choose not to get it for a variety of reasons. It says in the comments section of the report if you should expect to find an inscription on the stone (if the inscription was there before the examination or if they did it at the same time they did the report).

The report format varies from one facet design to the next. The report for OEC's doesn't include a cut grade and they eliminate some of the data included on some of the other cuts. It there a little diagram near the bottom right corner of the report that looks like a diamond profile with an assortment of dimensions on it? That's where the proportion information is listed on their reports. They may be able to tell you more about your stone if you call them and ask about it. 1-800-421-7250

It has a diamond diagram that gives me the table, depth and girdle.

 

[denverappraiser]

It has a diamond diagram that gives me the table, depth and girdle.

That's all you get on an OEC from them.

 

[bright ice]

It has a diamond diagram that gives me the table, depth and girdle.

That's all you get on an OEC from them.

Thanks!

 

[marymm]

It has a diamond diagram that gives me the table, depth and girdle.

That's all you get on an OEC from them.

For OECs, if you want the numbers for the Crown and Pavilion Angles and Degrees to be listed on the GIA Diamond Grading Report, is this something you can request at the time you place the Report order? I don't understand why they wouldn't include those numbers...

 

[Ravinmad]

Denverappraiser, Could we get a AGSL report and rating going thru a member? I realize they do not take stones from individuals but from one of their members I might think you could get it graded, and as to the price of their grading would likely be for a Platinum diamond report????

 

[bright ice]

It has a diamond diagram that gives me the table, depth and girdle.

That's all you get on an OEC from them.

For OECs, if you want the numbers for the Crown and Pavilion Angles and Degrees to be listed on the GIA Diamond Grading Report, is this something you can request at the time you place the Report order? I don't understand why they wouldn't include those numbers...

I wonder this as well!

 

[denverappraiser]

It has a diamond diagram that gives me the table, depth and girdle.

That's all you get on an OEC from them.

For OECs, if you want the numbers for the Crown and Pavilion Angles and Degrees to be listed on the GIA Diamond Grading Report, is this something you can request at the time you place the Report order? I don't understand why they wouldn't include those numbers...

No. It's possible they'll tell you more about your stone if you call them or email them but crown and pavilion angles and percentages are not part of their evaluation of OEC's.

 

[denverappraiser]

Denverappraiser, Could we get a AGSL report and rating going thru a member? I realize they do not take stones from individuals but from one of their members I might think you could get it graded, and as to the price of their grading would likely be for a Platinum diamond report????

Any AGS member can certainly submit stones to AGSL. Actually, pretty much any jeweler, appraiser or diamond dealer can do it whether they're a member or not. Prices will vary a bit depending on how much the person submitting the stone is charging for THEIR part of the service and don't forget the shipping/insurance components but figure AGSL's part as pretty comparable to the GIA fees linked above for the 'Diamond Quality Report' service.

 

[Amys Bling]

Interesting...