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CDC urging flu shots

Just got back from the walk in clinic. I have Influenza B. I had the flu shot this year.
 
CMD2014 - well said! As someone with an autoimmune disease and who is immuno- suppressed, I got the flu shot, got the flu and ended up in the hospital last week....I cannot thank my doctors and the nursing staff enough for their great care. This flu is scary. And I’m pretty careful with washing my hands, staying out of crowded places, etc. I also have stayed out of work so I don’t give it to others. It’s a shame some don’t understand “herd immunity.”
 
@StephanieLynn, lets stay with flu as MMR is a childhood vaccine and not in the same category.

You have to consider the dosage involved here. A typical adult gets one vaccine per year, flu shot. one flu vaccine per year contains up to 1500 micrograms of polysorbate. That's miniscule.

Any packaged food in the supermarket has a lot more. Ice cream can contain up to half percent polysorbate by volume. Based on available animal studies, a person would need to consume pounds of it in a short period of time to be harmful. People are misinformed and refuse vaccination for bad reasons.
 
Caf, it sucks when you can’t make enough antibodies. I’m sorry for you too Soxfan. The B strain was included in the shot this year (it was a quad shot), but not everyone who gets it will get complete immunity. I hope yours is shorter and less severe because of it. Drink lots of fluids, get lots of rest, and I hope you feel better soon!
 
There’s research to suggest that the flu vaccine efficacy is cumulative as well, so those who are vaccinated every year have significantly higher immunity than those who don’t. Plus, if you get achy and sick feeling post-shot, that’s not the flu (the vaccines are not live, and cannot infect you) - it’s your immune response building the antibodies needed for immunity. So the stronger your response, the better chance you have of immunity.

I do not know if this is true. I do not read much scientific literature, but I hope that you do it and are, therefore, correct! Because it would be nice for me. ;))

The year before last I started getting a higher dose vaccine for adults over 65 and I had a reaction, albeit a very mild one, to the vaccine for the first time ever. This year I again had the stronger vaccine (although I did not have any reaction to it). So I am hoping that having the stronger vaccine...and having had a reaction to it...meanst hat I have built more immunity to 'flu. (But if I have...why didn't I have a reaction this year?)

AGBF
 
@StephanieLynn, lets stay with flu as MMR is a childhood vaccine and not in the same category.

You have to consider the dosage involved here. A typical adult gets one vaccine per year, flu shot. one flu vaccine per year contains up to 1500 micrograms of polysorbate. That's miniscule.

Any packaged food in the supermarket has a lot more. Ice cream can contain up to half percent polysorbate by volume. Based on available animal studies, a person would need to consume pounds of it in a short period of time to be harmful. People are misinformed and refuse vaccination for bad reasons.

Um, I think it's valid to bring up my experience as it has been mentioned in this thread that the blame rests solely on the anti-vaccine crowd and my example proves that a vaccinated person can present a risk. Also I was not the first one to bring up a vaccine outside the flu shot so I felt it was relevant to overall conversation.

I dont refuse vaccinations for "bad reasons" but from personal experience of adverse outcomes with my children. Some anti-vaxxers were pro before they had a reason to question vaccines, like me.

And with that I will exit this thread before I get burned at the stake.
 
I do not know if this is true. I do not read much scientific literature, but I hope that you do it and are, therefore, correct! Because it would be nice for me. ;))

The year before last I started getting a higher dose vaccine for adults over 65 and I had a reaction, albeit a very mild one, to the vaccine for the first time ever. This year I again had the stronger vaccine (although I did not have any reaction to it). So I am hoping that having the stronger vaccine...and having had a reaction to it...meanst hat I have built more immunity to 'flu. (But if I have...why didn't I have a reaction this year?)

AGBF

I do spend a lot of time reading scientific literature (it’s a huge part of my job, but I’m curious about things too, and have easy access to most of the major literature databases). It’s not a super robust finding. You are only slightly less likely to get sick, but if you do, you’re much less likely to have serious complications, and your symptoms should be shorter and less severe. But nothing is a guarantee.
 
My Dr. offered me a flu shot and I said no. I said...give mine to your other patient who needed to catch a flu...:silenced:. I like my winning streak of 35 yrs o/w catching a flu...:praise:
 
@babymonster, I checked with the CDC website after I read the ingredients elsewhere. The CDC says that those ingredients are in the vaccine. For many years, I have not eaten foods with additives. I don't eat out a whole lot and cook my families meals so I don't eat polysorbate ever. I am very sensitive to additives and for the last year have also eliminated sugar as well. I am not opposed to vaccines but I also don't want toxins injected into me. I would gladly get a flu shot if the toxins were removed.
 
There’s research to suggest that the flu vaccine efficacy is cumulative as well, so those who are vaccinated every year have significantly higher immunity than those who don’t. Plus, if you get achy and sick feeling post-shot, that’s not the flu (the vaccines are not live, and cannot infect you) - it’s your immune response building the antibodies needed for immunity. So the stronger your response, the better chance you have of immunity. It sucks. I get a giant red welt and aches every year. But I haven’t had the flu in 14 years while my stubbornly unvaccinated husband has had the flu multiple times in that timeframe (and has done his best to infect me along with him if were being honest).

https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/002024.htm

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/flu/in-depth/flu-shots/art-20048000?pg=2

The sad thing is that those who need it the most (children, the elderly, those with autoimmune disorders or weakened immune systems) often won’t have a sufficient immune response, even with vaccination. It’s why herd immunity (relying on everyone to be vaccinated) is so crucial.

I’m also not sure why anyone would accuse doctors of wanting to make more money by advocating that people get vaccinated. Doctors don’t earn anything from either the prescriptions they write or the vaccinations they recommend. Nothing. It’s against the code of ethics. That’s why pharmacies exist.

This... exactly. Thanks for posting this info, @cmd2014!
 
My Dr. offered me a flu shot and I said no. I said...give mine to your other patient who needed to catch a flu...:silenced:. I like my winning streak of 35 yrs o/w catching a flu...:praise:

Out of sheer curiosity, have you seriously not been ill at all in 35 years?? If you have been ill, were you tested for flu each time? I'm willing to bet you've had flu and didn't know it, maybe thinking it was a stomach bug, upper respiratory infection, allergies, or even exhaustion. I don't wish the flu on anyone, but if you truly haven't had it in that long, then you're very lucky. Unvaccinated, the odds aren't on your side.
 
Just got back from the walk in clinic. I have Influenza B. I had the flu shot this year.

I was right there last week... flu B. I'm sorry you're ill, @soxfan -- sending dust for a speedy recovery! Hydrate, hydrate, HYDRATE!!!

On that note, since I had flu A & B AT THE SAME TIME last summer (and I work in healthcare... and have a young child), I am going to start getting vaccinated every 6 months, if possible. My employee provided one at no charge, and it's not like they're expensive... about $20-25. Our flu season is so weird in the South, usually not ramping up until February or so. I get my shot in late September or early October, so the 6 month window is up in April. Starting this year, I'm gonna be a twice-a-year flu vaccine recipient. I'm making my husband as well, although I want to speak with my toddler's ped first. I see no harm from a medical standpoint, esp. given that I'm exposed literally every day from October-February, and at least 3-4 times a month otherwise here at the clinic.
 
Out of sheer curiosity, have you seriously not been ill at all in 35 years?? If you have been ill, were you tested for flu each time? I'm willing to bet you've had flu and didn't know it, maybe thinking it was a stomach bug, upper respiratory infection, allergies, or even exhaustion. I don't wish the flu on anyone, but if you truly haven't had it in that long, then you're very lucky. Unvaccinated, the odds aren't on your side.
Yes I'd catch a cold now and then,runny nose, cough, but no fever or aching bones it usually takes me about 4-5 days to get over it. I don't lay in bed I just go do my usual stuff everyday.
 
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They are dropping like flies on my Facebook page. Flu A is the dominant strain.
 
Yes I'd catch a cold now and then,runny nose, cough, but no fever or aching bones it usually takes me about 4-5 days to get over it. I don't lay in bed I just go do my usual stuff everyday.

4-5 DAYS??? That sounds like flu. LOL ;-)
 
4-5 DAYS??? That sounds like flu. LOL ;-)
Whatever it is I don't need to lay in bed I just go about doing my everyday routines. Haven't had a fever nor aching bones in 35 yrs...:praise:
 
This is my second year having the flu shot since I have no spleen. First time I have ever gotten the flu (that I know of) and it was so bad I’m glad I had the shot. I can’t imagine if I had it worse. I probably would have been a statistic.
 
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