Can you help me pick between these two?

[skphotoimages]

I've got it down to two local diaminds, unfortunatly they are at different stores, so I can't compare them side by side, and I know different info on the two.
DIAMOND#1
1.53 ct J VS1
7.37-7.43-4.55
Depth 61.5%
Table 58%
Girdle Med-Thick faceted
no fluorescence
It is GIA certified, but I don't see any crown or pav angles. It was Gemexed though (or Brilliance scope) and scored MED-HIGH on white light HIGH on colored light and HIGH-on scintillation.

DIAMOND#2
1.55 ct I VS2
7.50-7.46 x 4.49
Depth 60%
Table 60%
Crown 12.9%
Pavillion 43.5% (sorry no angles)
culet none
fluorescence: Faint
EGL US74645026D
When I entered it into the cut advisor, it looked pretty good, a 1.6 with excellents, but I don't know how that compares to the Gem ex.

I want to buy tomorrow, and any advise would be MUCH appreciated!

Thanks once again for everything.
SK

 

[Brighter_Suns]

I would be interested to see what pricing differences existed between the two considering one is a GIA cert and the other is a EGL. Is the second diamond still a good deal if it was actually a J or SI1? That is something you should look at if you want to consider a fair comparison.

 

[skphotoimages]

Diamond #1 is $8000, but they will throw in a slightly nicer and heavier white gold setting then the standard free one.

Diamond #2 is $7500 (I might be able to talk them down even more). It is VERY VERY clean, definitly a VS, and as far as if it is a J or not...I'm not sure, like I said I can't see them side by side. It looks like an I though. And I do like that it has faint fluorescence.

Basicly I want the stone that has the best fire and sparkle. It would be easy to pick side by side (maybe) but I don't think there is anyway I can do that. Unless I buy one and take it to the other place to compare, but I'm not sure if that would be frowned upon. And if all you experts can see an easy winner between the two...that would sure be great.

 

[Brighter_Suns]

That you have seen the diamond in person is great but if you are like me you may need a better authority to give you an opinion. The price is great on #2 for a quick look shows you would have to go below 1.5 carat to find a similar cut and grade in a GIA or AGS cert. Hopefully others can contribute some alternates to give you some comparisons. I myself would not rule out a slight smaller diamond with better credentials but that is sight unseen, so if you have see it and loved it, you are halfway there. Good luck!

 

[skphotoimages]

I did find a smaller stone, and it may seem like a no brainer, but for some reason I don't know if I can do sight unseen. here it is, but I'd still really appreciate opinions on the first two stones.

DIAMOND #3
1.49 VVS2 J Hearts and Arrows
7.4-7.43x4.51
D% 60.8
T%56.2
Crown 34.3 degrees
Pav 40.8 degrees
Culet 0.1
no fluorescence
Price around 8300. No brainer huh? I think it scores ideal across the board too. I think it might have scored very high across the board on the brilliance scope.

 

[Shay37]

Date: 12/5/2005 4:14:53 PM
Author: skphotoimages
I did find a smaller stone, and it may seem like a no brainer, but for some reason I don''t know if I can do sight unseen. here it is, but I''d still really appreciate opinions on the first two stones.

DIAMOND #3
1.49 VVS2 J Hearts and Arrows
7.4-7.43x4.51
D% 60.8
T%56.2
Crown 34.3 degrees
Pav 40.8 degrees
Culet 0.1
no fluorescence
Price around 8300. No brainer huh? I think it scores ideal across the board too. I think it might have scored very high across the board on the brilliance scope.

Is it AGS or GIA cert? I think that the VVS2 is definitely overkill on the clarity. I just won''t pay for something I can''t see. Having said that, the numbers look very nice; and if certed by AGS or GIA, it''s my choice of the three.

shay

 

[Gonzodogg]

My vote is to not buy #2. It is an EGL cert with a 60% table. Those two things together should rule it out.
I think you''ll be very happy with either #1 or #3
good luck
Mike

 

[skphotoimages]

Why would one shy away from a 60% table on an EGL cert ?

 

[strmrdr]

Id go strait to #3 and never look back if the symmetry was decent and the cert was gia or ags.

The first - while the b-sscope isnt perfect that score indicates its at best standard comercial grade.

The second egl - 60% yuck.

The 3rd has sweet angles and in a J there isnt as huge a mark up on the clarity as higher colors.

Id look for something cut like the 3rd one in an h-i eyeclean si1.

 

[skphotoimages]

Snother person says yuck to 60% EGL??? Why?? I really don''t get why that is bad?

 

[aljdewey]

Date: 12/5/2005 8:48:58 PM
Author: skphotoimages
Snother person says yuck to 60% EGL??? Why?? I really don''t get why that is bad?

Most folks here prefer more well-proportioned cuts with tables at 58 or smaller.

The EGL issue is separate from the table percentage issue......EGL has earned a dubious reputation for being ssoft on their grading. That means what *they* call a J might actually be a K or L by the more stringent labs.

As long as the stone is priced fairly, that''s not necessarily a deal breaker, but if you want to be SURE it''s a J, make sure to appraise independently before purchase or else stick with a more stringent lab like AGS/GIA.

 

[skphotoimages]

Thank you for your reply. The EGL stone is an "I". He did show it to me compared to an AGS H and a J, so I believe it is an "I". I understand that most people here like tables around 58%, but what will I be losing as a result of going with this 60% table stone? I think the crown and pavillion angles are good. And the stone looked good on the HCA. I am seriously concidering buying this stone, so that is why I am so concerned,