Can fluorescence in sidestones cause a difference in the look of the stones?

[Odilia]

For example, with sidestones about 12 - 16 points? If the 2 adjacent diamonds have none vs. very strong blue fluorescence? (i.e. one diamond has it, while its neighbor does not)

 

[Gypsy]

Well. I was a bit fussy about that when I commissioned my ring. My center has no flour. and so I asked for no flour for any melee. When I spoke with Ocean, she said she's not accustomed to picking out melee with a black light but said she'd do so for me, I asked her to make them match... either all with, or all without. It was a total mind clean issue for me though because I've seen black light images of Graff diamond necklaces (tons of carats in the necklace all diamonds) where the stones flourece differently... and those jewels are stunning IRL. I think as long as they are well matched to the eye I shouldn't matter.

 

[Odilia]

Date: 5/10/2008 9:43:36 PM
Author: Gypsy
I think as long as they are well matched to the eye I shouldn''t matter.

That is the problem: to me they look very different, but as far as I know the only "technical" difference is the fluorescence.

 

[purrfectpear]

Melee can look dark if it isn''t set correctly.

 

[Gypsy]

Date: 5/10/2008 9:48:10 PM
Author: old-fashioned girl

Date: 5/10/2008 9:43:36 PM
Author: Gypsy
I think as long as they are well matched to the eye I shouldn''t matter.

That is the problem: to me they look very different, but as far as I know the only ''technical'' difference is the fluorescence.

It could be the setting, it could be the stones. I would just take it back, tell them it looks unmatched and have them try to explain it to you. Is this Quest? If it is, I''m sure they will be good about it. Good luck honey!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Could it be the angle at which they are set? Or perhaps the bezel holding them is reflecting and making the dark spots?

 

[Catmom]

OFG, I have several rings that when under a blacklight the mele has varying degrees of fluorescence but when looked at in normal lighting conditions look perfectly matched. I don''t see any darkness in the fluorescent stones. I wish you could figure out why you see such a difference.

 

[Odilia]

Date: 5/10/2008 10:24:40 PM
Author: Gypsy

It could be the setting, it could be the stones. I would just take it back, tell them it looks unmatched and have them try to explain it to you. Is this Quest? If it is, I''m sure they will be good about it. Good luck honey!

THanks Gypsy. I hope Quest can figure it out. If it is the setting, I guess I am just stuck.

 

[Gypsy]

Why would you be stuck? They can fix it either way. If it''s not right, it''s not right.

 

[Odilia]

Date: 5/10/2008 11:30:07 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Could it be the angle at which they are set? Or perhaps the bezel holding them is reflecting and making the dark spots?

Yes, I have thought of both of those. My fear is that it's the angle at which they are set. If it's the angle or the bezel, I guess I am stuck with a very expensive but totally disappointing ring. (Unless changing that bezel into prongs - if it's possible w/o making it look weird - would help?) This is why I should not have gone custom, or at least I should have gone with a custom vendor who has a re-do/credit or return policy. I feel like such an idiot. I tried on SO MANY 5 stone rings over the past 2 years, and never saw any of these types of problems. And the angle at which the diamonds are set doesn't look that different from some of the ones I've tried on in stores, but they don't look this way. (And I have taken this ring into the store to compare in the same conditions.) I figured, what can go wrong? Plus if the hinged shank can't work out, I don't want my good diamond in this ring anyway. And I am so disappointed that I blew my reset budget on this; I am back to square one. I have to either put my good diamond back in the solitaire setting or else that other one I wear w/ the tiny melee that I asked about on the other thread. I am just deathly afraid of changing that little ring, because so many stupid and unforseen things can go wrong, and if I ruin that one, I will be really sick.

I know it is stupid to fret so much about a stupid piece of jewelry. It could be worse; I could be in an earthquake in China, a cyclone in Burma, or have so many worse things happen. But still, it makes me sick to think of all the research I've done for this ring, trying on every possible ring I could, talking to jewelers about custom, (asking specifically 2 years ago about the hinged shank, because my whole decision process would have been different if I had been told the truth about the hinged shank limitations back then) etc etc etc, and all I still have to do - going back to Quest and figuring out the best way to approach this - and all for a very expensive RHR and my engagement diamond still without a great setting. Plus I wish I could be more optimistic about how it might be able to look better - how Quest may be able to fix a lot of things, but I'm not. I just feel frustrated.... And wish it were over with. I just was out of state for Mother's Day, and we are going on vacation this week, plus I haven't even heard from Martin Fuller who said the appraisal should be ready mid-last week. So still this whole thing is delayed. Oh well, I am lucky to even have the options I have. And I'm lucky that it is just about a ring.

 

[Odilia]

Date: 5/12/2008 3:59:18 PM
Author: Gypsy
Why would you be stuck? They can fix it either way. If it's not right, it's not right.

It doesn't seem like it. The impression I get talking to them is that the ring is the way it is; they can only tweak minor things. Like, he maybe could replace the diamonds, but if it's the angle at which they are set, I don't think they'd remake the ring to fix that- if I thought they would, I might have more hope. It seems like, "this is the design you picked, and this is one of the unforseen downsides; tough luck." Maybe I am wrong; Pete does seem to want to make it right, so maybe I should just be more optimistic. Wish I could get it done quicker but there are always delays (on my end - except for the appraisal), so I always dwell on it and get pessimistic...

 

[Odilia]

Date: 5/11/2008 9:55:00 AM
Author: Catmom
OFG, I have several rings that when under a blacklight the mele has varying degrees of fluorescence but when looked at in normal lighting conditions look perfectly matched. I don''t see any darkness in the fluorescent stones. I wish you could figure out why you see such a difference.

Thanks, Catmom. I wish we could too. Maybe Pete can figure it out & fix it.

 

[isaku5]

I don''t think you should worry about Pete not wanting to fix a problem with fluoresence (if that''s what the problem turns out to be). A couple of years ago now, I almost bought an asscher with strong fluoresence. When I mentioned the fluor to Pete, he warned me that he''d have to search for sidestones which had flour, in order for centre to look right. I was very concerned about that; however, fate intervened, as it often does

, and I wasn''t able to go ahead with the purchase.

The point I''m finally gretting to is that Pete was very aware of the effects of fluoresence, and I''m betting he will be anxious to please you.

If something doesn''t look right to you, by all means have it looked after right away as every time you look at your ring, you''ll see the problem.

Good luck!

 

[Odilia]

Date: 5/12/2008 5:08:50 PM
Author: isaku5
I don''t think you should worry about Pete not wanting to fix a problem with fluoresence (if that''s what the problem turns out to be). A couple of years ago now, I almost bought an asscher with strong fluoresence. When I mentioned the fluor to Pete, he warned me that he''d have to search for sidestones which had flour, in order for centre to look right. I was very concerned about that; however, fate intervened, as it often does

, and I wasn''t able to go ahead with the purchase.

The point I''m finally gretting to is that Pete was very aware of the effects of fluoresence, and I''m betting he will be anxious to please you.

If something doesn''t look right to you, by all means have it looked after right away as every time you look at your ring, you''ll see the problem.

Good luck!

Thanks, Isaku5! That is interesting, about how he warned you that the sidestones had to match re: fluoresence - that gives me hope that that may indeed be the problem. I agree with you that if that is the problem, he will replace those stones with others. I hope it is that simple! There are other things that don''t look right to me too, and I guess I always just fear that there may be no solution to those, w/o remaking the ring. But hopefully I''m wrong. I wish I could get there and talk them over with Pete sooner, but he wanted me to get the appraisal first, and I got it ASAP, but now it''s over a week since my appointment, and still no appraisal paperwork, so everything is on hold. But your post gives me some reassurance!