Calling the color sensitive! Is my stone a J or an M?

[I like ice]

I purchased a ring a number of years ago from a private seller. It did not come with a certificate, but did come with the invoice from the original jewelry store which lists the stone as an M. When I took it to my jeweler for an insurance appraisal he listed the stone as a J. I called him yesterday to confirm he uses the GIA color grading scale. I believe the stone would most likely have been loose for the original purchase. Insurance appraisal was done with the stone in a platinum setting.
I love my stone and really don't care what color it is. I would just really like to know the color as my future son-in-law is using this stone as a benchmark for the e-ring he plans to buy my daughter. I have attached a photo of the ring face up. I tried to get a side shot, but the pavillion is so dirty it really didn't come out well. I did try to clean it this morning!
I don't find the stone to be yellow at all. The most I see is some warmth depending on the lighting. Short of sending the stone to a lab is there any way to find out what color it REALLY is?
Thanks in advance for your help!

 

[innerkitten]

I can see the warmth of the stone in the photograph. But I think the only way to know exactly what the color it you would have to compare it with some other stones.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Yes, I can see the color which I cannot usually see in an ideal cut J, but there is no telling what the cut is on this stone. I would advise your son to stick with the near colorless range for an engagement diamond...G, H, I, J...and be sure it has a GIA report. If he is going to be looking at rounds, tell him he should look at GIA excellent cut only, because not only will it appear more brilliant, it will also show less color face up if he gets a J color. I love a three stone ring..very pretty!

 

[Frenchcut]

There is some yellow showing in that stone, no doubt about it, but it's difficult to judge from a picture. And I agree with Diamondseeker2006 regarding your future son-in-law...

 

[MissGotRocks]

You could consider having it appraised by an independent appraiser to tell you more accurately what color the stone is. I'd believe it's closer to an M than a J but that's a non-expert opinion from one picture. If I were advising him on what to buy, I too would say to stay closer to a J than an M color stone.

 

[Enerchi]

How recent was the appraisal you have? Not that the colour 'ages' with time, but maybe another independant appraisal may be in order. If there is confusion in the colour, best to get that cleared up.

It certainly has a warm "whellow" glow to it, unless it is reflecting a yellow shirt in the photos, that based on this photo only, I'd think possibly less than a J - - - but that isn't really possible to judge on 1 photo and no comparables in the shot.

I'd get another appraisal.

 

[I like ice]

I did have a bit of a time getting a good shot. My camera is waterproof and thus has a bright yellow/green case to make it easy to see underwater. Trying to avoid it''s refelection in the stone was a challange. It might be I didn't do a good a job as I thought

Taking the stone to a "tie-breaker" appraiser may be the answer. Can the color of a stone be accurately assessed when it is in the setting?

 

[Enerchi]

I did have a bit of a time getting a good shot. My camera is waterproof and thus has a bright yellow/green case to make it easy to see underwater. Trying to avoid it''s refelection in the stone was a challange. It might be I didn't do a good a job as I thought

Taking the stone to a "tie-breaker" appraiser may be the answer. Can the color of a stone be accurately assessed when it is in the setting?

hmmmm.... that could definitely be influential in what we are seeing in the photo!

Do you have another camera or a cell phone camera? or does your daughter have one she could snap a photo of? if so - can you repost this shot along with the new camera photo?

OR----tape up the front of your yellow camera with white photo copy paper, or wrap a white plastic garbage bag around all but the lens - see if that brings your "M" to a "J" just by that move! Worth a try !

 

[I like ice]

OR----tape up the front of your yellow camera with white photo copy paper, or wrap a white plastic garbage bag around all but the lens - see if that brings your "M" to a "J" just by that move! Worth a try !

Covering the camera case is a good idea! It may have been just enough color to skew the photo. I just want the stone judged on the color it has, not the color I am adding LOL I will take another pic this evening and see if it look any different.

 

[Enerchi]

OR----tape up the front of your yellow camera with white photo copy paper, or wrap a white plastic garbage bag around all but the lens - see if that brings your "M" to a "J" just by that move! Worth a try !

Covering the camera case is a good idea! It may have been just enough color to skew the photo. I just want the stone judged on the color it has, not the color I am adding LOL I will take another pic this evening and see if it look any different.

Every now and then, all my neurons fire up at once, and I come up with something semi-brilliant!!!

 

[Dancing Fire]

I did have a bit of a time getting a good shot. My camera is waterproof and thus has a bright yellow/green case to make it easy to see underwater. Trying to avoid it''s refelection in the stone was a challange. It might be I didn't do a good a job as I thought

Taking the stone to a "tie-breaker" appraiser may be the answer. Can the color of a stone be accurately assessed when it is in the setting?

IMO...no!