Buy strong fluoro w good 4Cs? Or help me pick another.

[aggie10]

We have chosen a setting through brilliantearth.com. Unfortunately they do not let you buy their setting without a diamond, or else we would have more options. We are looking at one stone in particular, part of me goes "Oooh neat! IF!" But I've never seen a fluorescent stone before, so I don't know what to expect. On one hand, glowing under a black light is AWESOME, and twinkling blue in the sun is neat too. I DON'T want hazy, which I understand is quite rare. But this stone is going to be sight unseen so we won't really know until it arrives. But they have a good return policy! But that's a headache!

Here is the stone's info:

Price: $3,680
Shape: Round
Carat Weight: 0.62
Cut: Super Ideal
Color: G
Clarity: IF
Report: GIA (preview upon request)
Measurements: 5.50 x 5.46 x 3.41 mm
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Depth: 62.2%
Table: 56.0%
Girdle: Thin - Medium
Culet: None
Fluorescence: Strong Blue

So, as you can see the cut and clarity are about as good as I'll ever see on this budget! The color is alright, but truth be told I've never personally seen the different color grades compared, so G might be awesome to my untrained eye.

On the other hand, if you don't think fluoro is a good thing for me, what stone on brilliantearth.com do you think would be a good deal for under $4000?

OR, if asking about a particular other site is against the rules, could someone help me find a setting similar to this (no halo!) with a good diamond, topping out at a total of no more than $5700?

And I feel like I need to explain why I'm so excited about IF clarity... I have a geology degree. I've never studied gemstones exactly, but something that the earth produced so perfectly is really amazing to me. I think it would be really special to own, and I think I would get a kick out of nerding out and explaining fluorescence to observers too.

 

[ariel144]

Do you want to buy from them because they are in Canada? That setting is very common and peeps in here can help you find that setting from other vendors. It is good to buy the stone and the setting from the same vendor though.

Strong blue fl. is awesome as long as the stone is not milky or cloudy. Here an H color (EGL) with blue flour....hubba hubba is right!
http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.com/Jewelry/Rings-Antique-Vintage/356ct-Loose-Old-European-Cut/19804036_Qxwpx5#!i=1610940947&k=nKKGh89

Many PS's prefer a stone with blue fl.

Brian Gavin has specialty stones that he lists that have blue fl. and are very good cuts. Don't have enough info. to tell you if your RB is a good cut or not. Will they give you an ASET image for the stone? Can they tell you if it is cloudy or do they have to order the stone in?

So many options out there. Many PSers will post other options for you who know the vendors that have that same setting and maybe can post a RB that has great stats and an ASET to compare the one that you found.

 

[ariel144]

What makes a beautiful diamond is not the color and clarity but the CUT. A WELL CUT lower color diamond
will out perform a higher color and be more beautiful.
Here is an interesting thread proving this point.
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/august-vintage-round-oec-n-color-nervous.174356/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/august-vintage-round-oec-n-color-nervous.174356/[/URL]

Here is an I SI2 .80 faces up almost 6mmx6mm and has med. blue fl.
(the blue flo. makes lower colored diamonds look whiter, but an I is still in the colorless range.)

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9272/

You pay a lot for IF clarity and most women would rather have a larger stone for the money.
As long as it is eye-clean most people are happy with that.
Take a look at how well this diamond performs in all the lab tests:

There was a guy last week who posted on here and went to GOG
to get a H & A and when he compared it to an AVR he bought the AVR.

Here are some RB’s that perform well too and face up larger for the $$:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9321/

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.815-j-vs1-round-diamond-ags-104052884009

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.743-i-vs1-round-diamond-ags-104051366014

Any of the vendors can get that setting for you at that price or even possibly for less.

You can also search James Allen.
Hope this helps.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I have a G color diamond with strong blue fluorescence and the only time I can see it is if I shine my little UV light on it! So I wouldn't worry a bit about the SBF, but I would see if you could find one that was maybe VS1-VS2 to get a little more size.

 

[aggie10]

Do you want to buy from them because they are in Canada? That setting is very common and peeps in here can help you find that setting from other vendors. It is good to buy the stone and the setting from the same vendor though.

Not specifically, but it is a plus. Nice to know that all of the stones came from a place with good labor laws. I am absolutely open to anyone's suggestions of where to get a similar setting for that price. I haven't come across any other pave bands in platinum for $1675. To me that's a steal, but I might not know the better websites out there. Please speak up if you know of some.

Brian Gavin has specialty stones that he lists that have blue fl. and are very good cuts. Don't have enough info. to tell you if your RB is a good cut or not. Will they give you an ASET image for the stone? Can they tell you if it is cloudy or do they have to order the stone in?

You'll have to translate those acronyms for me... I'm afraid I don't follow.

So many options out there. Many PSers will post other options for you who know the vendors that have that same setting and maybe can post a RB that has great stats and an ASET to compare the one that you found.

That would be wonderful! Platinum "infinity" pave band without halo, please PS!

What makes a beautiful diamond is not the color and clarity but the CUT. A WELL CUT lower color diamond will out perform a higher color and be more beautiful.

Yup! That's why in every search I always put the criteria at the highest cut rank. The diamond in my first post is "super ideal" according to their scale. I wasn't sure where to get the angles, so I left them at default, but with the table/depth %s in the HCA it gave me a rating of .6

You pay a lot for IF clarity and most women would rather have a larger stone for the money.

I am the woman I like quality over quantity regardless of budget, plus an interesting fact or two (IF + fluoro) makes me happy. Besides, what amounts to like .3mm difference is so difficult for me (or anyone) to tell, I don't put a lot of weight on that, since everything within one budget will probably be about the same size (eye-size? like eye-clean? lol). As long as the fluoro's not a negative... which I won't know until I'm proposed to I guess (he's letting me help pick out the setting and stone, but everything else has to stay a surprise)

And you had more acronyms in the last part of your post... I'll need to look up what they mean in order to reply coherently.

 

[ariel144]

What makes a beautiful diamond is not the color and clarity but the CUT. A WELL CUT lower color diamond
will out perform a higher color and be more beautiful.
Here is an interesting thread proving this point.
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/august-vintage-round-oec-n-color-nervous.174356/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/august-vintage-round-oec-n-color-nervous.174356/[/URL]

Here is an I SI2 .80 faces up almost 6mmx6mm and has med. blue fl.
(the blue flo. makes lower colored diamonds look whiter, but an I is still in the colorless range.)
You pay a lot for IF clarity and most women would rather have a larger stone for the money.
As long as it is eye-clean most people are happy with that.
Take a look at how well this diamond performs in all the lab tests:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9272/

There was a guy last week who posted on here and went to GOG
to get a H & A and when he compared it to an AVR he bought the AVR.

Here are some RB’s that perform well too and face up larger for the $$:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9321/

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.815-j-vs1-round-diamond-ags-104052884009

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.743-i-vs1-round-diamond-ags-104051366014

Any of the vendors can get that setting for you at that price or even possibly for less.

You can also search James Allen.
Hope this helps.

 

[Gypsy]

I have a G color diamond with strong blue fluorescence and the only time I can see it is if I shine my little UV light on it! So I wouldn't worry a bit about the SBF, but I would see if you could find one that was maybe VS1-VS2 to get a little more size.

I agree with this. It's very rare that Strong Blue has negative effects. I would totally take the risk since they have a good return policy.

But, I do agree that IF is WAY overkill on the clarity. BUT if the stone is otherwise great, why not?

 

[aggie10]

But, I do agree that IF is WAY overkill on the clarity. BUT if the stone is otherwise great, why not?

I agree, but as something bought sight-unseen, it's good peace-of-mind, right? And the knowledge that there are NO imperfections, that the earth produced this awesome perfect little nugget, even if it's not very big, that's special! Right?

What clarity wouldn't be overkill if the site doesn't provide pictures? Honest question.

Also hoping someone can point me to a similar setting as in the OP for the same approx price... otherwise looking at other website's loose diamonds is a moot point. 1675 for platinum pave is really good, I think. Hard to beat, but I dunno. Maybe yall know more.