Beautiful Diamond but no Cut grade?!

[Solkos333]

I bought a diamond from a retailer recently and this particular retailer's focus is on the polish, symmetry, and cut of their diamonds. While selling this diamond to me, they put huge emphases on how important especially the cut grade was.
The first diamond I bought was this:
1.036ct SI2 AGS
P- ideal
S- ideal
C- ideal
H Color

I wasn't too pleased with the SI2 so I paid a little bit more for this diamond
1.08ct VS2 GIA
P- excellent
S- excellent
C- not listed but the jeweler claims that the proportions are enough to consider it excellent cut. It just has the table and the depth.

The diamond grading report was done in the early 2000's before GIA started doing the cut. I have asked the jewler if they would send it in to get the cut graded on it but they told me they'll charge me more to get cut graded and I can't exchange the diamond because right before I bought the diamond, the company decided not to sell it anymore.

The reason why I am hugely frustrated and conflicted about this diamond is because this is supposedly the jewelers "Degas diamond" which the jeweler states:
"In addition to polish and symmetry, the Degas Diamond can claim triple Excellent status with the addition of overall cut grade. (GIA's overall cut grade assigned to round diamonds only.)"

How in the world can the jeweler make the claim that this is a Degas Diamond if the cut wasn't even graded? How do I get them to do the cut grading for free? Is it right for them to tell me that the table and the depth dimensions are enough for them to consider it an excellent cut? The GIA considers more factors than just the depth and table.

This all being said, Iove the diamond and want to keep it but I don't want to pay a premium for a diamond that definitely doesn't deserve to fetch a premium price.

 

[bcavitt]

A little research showed me that you bought this diamond from one of the "big box" stores. Few are known for their superior customer service, so you may have a long battle trying to get the satisfaction you want from them. You can try going up the food chain and see if they are more understanding of your situation than the local store is, but even that is no guarantee of success. Below is a link to GIA's cut grade estimator if you want to try it yourself, but obviously GIA would have the final say to your stones cut grade. Good luck!

Bryan Cavitt

http://www.gia.edu/diamondcut/06_estimating_a_cut_grade.html

 

[yssie]

I wasn't too pleased with the SI2 so I paid a little bit more for this diamond
1.08ct VS2 GIA
P- excellent
S- excellent
C- not listed but the jeweler claims that the proportions are enough to consider it excellent cut. It just has the table and the depth.
That is not enough info to claim that GIA would give it a certain cut grade. GIA assigns a cut grade based on a number of proportions - table, crown, pavilion, girdle thickness... and pol/sym must both be vg or ex.

The other part of this problem is that GIA is the authority, but that authority has not set eyes on this stone for at least six years. The GIA report notes the condition of the stone at the time the stone was sent to GIA. It is safe to assume the stone has not been sitting on a shelf for the last six years, and wear and tear from setting/use in the intervening years may have left marks. An independent appraisal would tell you more about proportions and condition - you'll have to find out what specific services your chosen appraiser offers.

The diamond grading report was done in the early 2000's before GIA started doing the cut. I have asked the jewler if they would send it in to get the cut graded on it but they told me they'll charge me more to get cut graded and I can't exchange the diamond because right before I bought the diamond, the company decided not to sell it anymore.
Someone forgot to take out the garbage. They suddenly decided not to sell the stone anymore, right when it became a bit inconvenient for them to validate their assertions? Offer them a deal - they send it to GIA or AGSL (same standards, AGSL is faster) and you'll pay for the report if it comes back EX/EX/EX as they are selling it to you.

Of course, if they're not letting you return the stone and you didn't get a return policy in writing when you bought, that complicates things...maybe someone else will have some insight into what to do in this specific situation.

The reason why I am hugely frustrated and conflicted about this diamond is because this is supposedly the jewelers "Degas diamond" which the jeweler states:
"In addition to polish and symmetry, the Degas Diamond can claim triple Excellent status with the addition of overall cut grade. (GIA's overall cut grade assigned to round diamonds only.)"

How in the world can the jeweler make the claim that this is a Degas Diamond if the cut wasn't even graded? How do I get them to do the cut grading for free? Is it right for them to tell me that the table and the depth dimensions are enough for them to consider it an excellent cut? The GIA considers more factors than just the depth and table.

This all being said, Iove the diamond and want to keep it but I don't want to pay a premium for a diamond that definitely doesn't deserve to fetch a premium price.