Asscher with 60% depth have Potential? Pic Attached

[JoeNewbie11]

Does this Asscher have potential? It has an awesome spread of course, but doesn''t fit the prototypical numbers for Asschers. Don''t have ASET or Sarin yet.

Shape: Emerald
Carat weight: 1.38
Cut: Ideal
Color: J
Clarity: SI1
Certificate: GIA

Depth: 60.7%
Table: 67.0%
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Very Good
Girdle: Thin to medium
Culet: None
Fluorescence: Faint
Measurements: 6.41*6.38*3.87
Ratio: 1.00

 

[JoeNewbie11]

Bump.

Any of the Step Cut people have experience with a shallower depth on Asschers? The pattern on this one looks nice, although the table and depth are not in the "sweet spot".

Will this one tend to look dull IRL?

 

[Todd Gray]

It is difficult to spec out an Asscher "by the numbers" but the pattern looks nice in the picture... It sounds like you''re working with a vendor who is willing to provide the details necessary to get a good feel for the stone online, how do they feel about the stone and how it performs visually?

 

[strmrdr]

what is the crown height?

is it eyeclean?

 

[JoeNewbie11]

Hi Storm,

I don''t have that information yet. Just wondering if it''s worth calling this stone into WF based on the picture and the current stats? Thanks.

 

[JoeNewbie11]

OR, would this stone be a better contender to get more info on? Doesn''t have the spread of the other stone and looks to have more head obstruction under the table.

Shape: Asscher
Carat weight: 1.27
Cut: Ideal
Color: J
Clarity: VS2
Certificate: GIA

Depth: 68.0%
Table: 58.0%
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Girdle: Slightly thick to thick
Culet: None
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 6.06*6.06*4.12

 

[oldminer]

I have never seen a truly authentic of effectively cut Asscher with a 60% depth. The model is simply a deeper style. Your second diamond looks more like the typical Asscher cut style.

 

[JoeNewbie11]

Thanks for the advice Dave. I was just wondering if I made a lucky find. I''ll consider the second stone.

From the picture, do you think there''s too much obstruction under the table? Will this dark ring reflect light without the obstruction?

 

[oldminer]

I defer to Strmrdr on such a question. Maybe he'll be capable of making some valid suggestion rather then me making a guess. However the photo of stone #2 was taken, there was bound to be some obscuration created by the lens of the camera and possibly by other factors, too which I just don't know.

 

[Gypsy]

Get the crown height on the first. And find out if it''s eye clean. You might have found a lucky one. But unless we have those two pieces of information we can''t tell you one way of the other.

 

[strmrdr]

there have been 3 or 4 60% depth asschers that I have approved of.
I have designs down to 50% depth that rock so it is possible.
With a 67% table and 60% depth the crown height has to be just right.
I wouldn''t pay to get it called in but I would see if they can get a sarin from whoever has it now.
That it is a narrow style helps counter the large table because of the smaller virtual facets.
Once the CH is known and if its eyeclean the girdle needs to be looked at.
It looks like a si1 feather under the table which is not good from the eyeclean potential standpoint but the only way to tell is for someone to look at it.
So there are a lot of questions.

The second one is a really nice bright drop style asscher.
J is going to show a slight tint.
Again need crown height but it is very likely in the good range.

Here are a few different styles asschers come in:

 

[strmrdr]

from up close the second one will look similar to this one:
It is the most common style on the market.
From arms lenth the patterns fill in somewhat and it looks brighter.
Then when you bring it in close it looks 10 miles deep.

 

[JoeNewbie11]

Thanks so much for the info again Karl. I think I''ll call in the second one.

 

[strmrdr]

your welcome