asscher hunt

[emmell]

Thanks for your input Belle. I suppose I''ll give a call. I guess I felt a little hard sell on a previous stone and my rejection stamp is on the quick draw

 

[decodelighted]

This is more like it ... and BTW ... the stone is just the white part .. not the grey background its on or the white surrounding it ... I had to do that to shrink it down enough.

 

[emmell]

deco, I''m concerned that there will be a black triangle or notable irregularity when I look at it. I know it may seem pollyannish but I''m trying to get the best I can with my modest fundage. This is the nitpickers anonymous meeting, isn''t it?

 

[belle]

Date: 5/16/2007 1:05:51 PM
Author: decodelighted

Date: 5/16/2007 12:57:28 PM
Author: belle
instead of dismissing it out of hand, why don''t you discuss your concerns with someone that can actually SEE the diamond in person? it would be a shame to let a good asscher go because of a static picture of something that may not correlate to real life conditions.

Dude, the stone is going to be

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This big. TELL me you''re going to see symmetry problems that other people can''t pick out in 300x enlargements?

Maybe it''s a ''mind clean'' issue ... you ''know'' there''s a ''problem'' & can''t get over it once you''ve ''discovered'' it ... but SERIOUSLY -- you are not going to be looking at this stone through a loupe more than, maybe five times your whole life -- and no one other than JEWELERS will either.

Time to get some perspective maybe. Devil''s Advocate!

lol.... i am slow. i thought that was a ''fill in the blank''!

i had already resized the pic to a more realistic size. it''s still a little big. in reality, it will be about the size of a pencil eraser. (if that''s the size it comes out on your monitor....then voila! i got it right!)

 

[belle]

okay...i really AM slow, as there have been a couple of posts before i even got that pic up.

where''s my coffee?

 

[decodelighted]

Date: 5/16/2007 1:13:13 PM
Author: emmell
deco, I''m concerned that there will be a black triangle or notable irregularity when I look at it. I know it may seem pollyannish but I''m trying to get the best I can with my modest fundage. This is the nitpickers anonymous meeting, isn''t it?

I''m just trying to give you perspective. ALL asscher have "irregularities" in the .. in other words -- the pristine pattern, no matter how pristine ... is only visible from one angle. One angle out of TEN BILLION angles. it''s a kind of living prism actually on the hand in a ring ...

It''s something that''s hard to describe to people before they''ve lived with asschers for awhile.

So ... all this fretting & hemming & hawing (not just you -- EVERY asscher seeker) SEEMS like you''re "getting the best" ... and a lot of the work is worth it ... getting proper proportions etc ... good patterns ... but at a certain point, what you''re looking for isn''t going to make a REAL LIFE DIFFERENCE. Just a MICROSCOPIC LEVEL difference. And at that point people, even the Pscope Nitpickers Club raise a red flag.

Honestly - I think that ANY stone you get (within the top tier of stones) is gonna have SOMETHING that you see in person and go "hmmmm ... I should gotten that OTHER one". They are SO DIFFERENT in person!!! I''m just trying to help you manage expectations.

 

[belle]

Date: 5/16/2007 1:13:13 PM
Author: emmell
deco, I''m concerned that there will be a black triangle or notable irregularity when I look at it. I know it may seem pollyannish but I''m trying to get the best I can with my modest fundage. This is the nitpickers anonymous meeting, isn''t it?

i think nitpickers anonymous was started here! you''ve come to the right place, however there does come a point where things can be overanalyzed and not reality based. go figure!

talk to them of your concerns and let us know what they say so we can correlate what is going on in the pic. talking with them doesn''t mean you have to buy the stone, but we could all learn from the experience!

 

[piccolascimmia]

Date: 5/16/2007 1:19:34 PM
Author: decodelighted

Date: 5/16/2007 1:13:13 PM

Author: emmell

deco, I'm concerned that there will be a black triangle or notable irregularity when I look at it. I know it may seem pollyannish but I'm trying to get the best I can with my modest fundage. This is the nitpickers anonymous meeting, isn't it?

I'm just trying to give you perspective. ALL asscher have 'irregularities' in the .. in other words -- the pristine pattern, no matter how pristine ... is only visible from one angle. One angle out of TEN BILLION angles. it's a kind of living prism actually on the hand in a ring ...


It's something that's hard to describe to people before they've lived with asschers for awhile.


So ... all this fretting & hemming & hawing (not just you -- EVERY asscher seeker) SEEMS like you're 'getting the best' ... and a lot of the work is worth it ... getting proper proportions etc ... good patterns ... but at a certain point, what you're looking for isn't going to make a REAL LIFE DIFFERENCE. Just a MICROSCOPIC LEVEL difference. And at that point people, even the Pscope Nitpickers Club raise a red flag.


Honestly - I think that ANY stone you get (within the top tier of stones) is gonna have SOMETHING that you see in person and go 'hmmmm ... I should gotten that OTHER one'. They are SO DIFFERENT in person!!! I'm just trying to help you manage expectations.

I was that girl who was trying to get the best asscher without knowing a lot to start with, and with having limited funds, limited places to see them, and limited patience (and a desire for the biggest possible within reason). And now almost a year later, I do wonder about the other stones that got away, but LOVE mine even though I don't know if its the 'best' one.

And seeing 30x magnification doesn't relate how it looks at real size on my hand. Right now typing, i see the steps kinda, but more so just sparkle/long facets. But when I get kookoo, i put it up next to my nose and stare. Or as someone on these boards said, sometimes I go under a shady tree and sit mesmerized

Its tough to get over the 'must buy best diamond possible' mode, and a good amount of analysis on an asscher can help. But seeing them in person AND also living with them awhile will tell you the most.

AND ETA - lighting/photography can make mountains out of molehills. My asscher has different looks in all different conditions...granted you don't want a dark stone but i don't think you can get a stone that doesn't have some dark spots in certain conditions.

 

[decodelighted]

FWIW .. I *do* see what you''re talking about in the .97 stone. I just don''t think it will matter in real life.

Here''s the famous 1922 five carat Cartier Asscher ... the Asscher that launched a zillion copycats. Note what''s going on in the center ... the same twisted effect you''re responding to in the .97.

Just a thought.

 

[emmell]

Good advice and points well taken. Thanks everyone.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 5/16/2007 12:03:00 PM
Author: emmell
ASET

woofer

 

[chrono]

Storm, I take it that last 0.97D asscher is a dog? But it looks so good in the pictures. Please explain why. Your explaination will probably go over my head but I'd like to read it anyway.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 5/14/2007 8:19:38 PM
Author: emmell
any opinions on this one?

1.06 G VS2

Pol/Sym: vg/vg
Fluor: none
Table: 58%
Depth: 67%

I was unable to get the crown height and this is the only pic available. Thanks.

out of the ones you posted this one is the best one so far.

 

[emmell]

That reply had punch storm.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 5/16/2007 2:54:22 PM
Author: Chrono
Storm, I take it that last 0.97D asscher is a dog? But it looks so good in the pictures. Please explain why. Your explaination will probably go over my head but I''d like to read it anyway.

the aset tells the story crappy light return center.
The eye is drawn to it and there needs to be something to be drawn too, 40aset ie. viewing it close would kill what little return it has there.
its a sure indicator it was cut for weight, the idea is to leave the other steps as fat as possible then cut the last sharply in, keeps weight but kills performance.