asscher experts - what do you think??

[greysca1e]

diamond from edr (no ASET image), mark recommended middle stone (for cut/brilliance)
I''m concerned only has ''good'' symmetry. could that be OK?

1.70 ct, sq emerald cut
F
VS1
6.62x6.40x4.43mm
EX polish
GD symmetry
No Flour
No cutlet

table: 64%
depth: 69.2%
thick-vtk
crown: (waiting for %)

 

[greysca1e]

close up of middle stone:

 

[strmrdr]

GD symmetry can be ok if there is no face up effect.

Its a bit on the deep side for the table, need the crown height.

The 1st picture is useless and the second isn't much better.
I cant call it based on the pictures.
Need CH and better pictures.

 

[greysca1e]

Date: 11/19/2008 12:26:46 PM
Author: strmrdr
GD symmetry can be ok if there is no face up effect.


Its a bit on the deep side for the table, need the crown height.


The 1st picture is useless and the second isn''t much better.

I cant call it based on the pictures.

Need CH and better pictures.

Hi strmrdr, crown height 12.4%

what additional pictures would help? different angles? or just another front shot? thanks!

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 11/19/2008 7:54:41 PM
Author: greysca1e

Date: 11/19/2008 12:26:46 PM

Author: strmrdr

GD symmetry can be ok if there is no face up effect.



Its a bit on the deep side for the table, need the crown height.



The 1st picture is useless and the second isn''t much better.


I cant call it based on the pictures.


Need CH and better pictures.

Hi strmrdr, crown height 12.4%


what additional pictures would help? different angles? or just another front shot? thanks!

frontal shot strait on even lighting.
12.4 is just ok with that depth... need pics..

 

[greysca1e]

strmrdr, found another asscher from Jon/Sarah @ GOG:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4599/

 

[greysca1e]

strmrdr: I have another few asschers coming in from WF and James Allen (just waiting for them to secure reports/images).

I will post them as they come.

can I just hire you to find a diamond for us?

(just kidding). Thanks for all your help so far... I''m still very green on evaluating asschers.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 11/19/2008 8:16:10 PM
Author: greysca1e
strmrdr, found another asscher from Jon/Sarah @ GOG:


http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4599/

table is to big

 

[greysca1e]

Hi Karl,

here''s another one - seems promising. they have ideal-scope image available but need to wait couple days. Will it help you to see the ideal-scope later?

Shape: Asscher
Carat weight: 1.72
Cut: Ideal
Color: F
Clarity: VS2
Certificate: GIA

Depth: 68.3%
Table: 63%
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Very Good
Girdle: Slightly thick to thick
Culet: None
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 6.50*6.50*4.44

**picture of magnified (x image**

 

[strmrdr]

looks promising.
Have them run an ogi scan to get the CH and get the IS image to confirm it.

 

[greysca1e]

Date: 11/20/2008 5:18:45 AM
Author: strmrdr
looks promising.

Have them run an ogi scan to get the CH and get the IS image to confirm it.

hi Karl: sarin rpt shows 16.2% CH. waiting for their IS image, will post when I get it.

Also, Jon @ GOG sent me a video on the previous diamond I linked in this post. (the one with larger table).

It's the middle stone:

http://www.vimeo.com/2299017

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 11/20/2008 6:03:04 PM
Author: greysca1e

Date: 11/20/2008 5:18:45 AM

Author: strmrdr

looks promising.


Have them run an ogi scan to get the CH and get the IS image to confirm it.

hi Karl: sarin rpt shows 16.2% CH. waiting for their IS image, will post when I get it.


Also, Jon @ GOG sent me a video on the previous diamond I linked in this post. (the one with larger table).


It''s the middle stone:


http://www.vimeo.com/2299017

16.2% is great

The GOG asscher is real nice for a larger tabled stone.
Some people like them.

 

[greysca1e]

Date: 11/19/2008 8:03:48 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 11/19/2008 7:54:41 PM

Author: greysca1e

Date: 11/19/2008 12:26:46 PM


Author: strmrdr


GD symmetry can be ok if there is no face up effect.




Its a bit on the deep side for the table, need the crown height.




The 1st picture is useless and the second isn''t much better.



I cant call it based on the pictures.



Need CH and better pictures.

Hi strmrdr, crown height 12.4%



what additional pictures would help? different angles? or just another front shot? thanks!

frontal shot strait on even lighting.

12.4 is just ok with that depth... need pics..

Karl,
Got two more pictures from Mark/EDR. same diamond, additional shots in natural light.
I dont'' know if these pics help you... but I''m still unsure about this diamond. Leaning more towards the other two I''ve posted here.

 

[greysca1e]

second picture:

 

[strmrdr]

out of the ones in this thread I like the JA one the best.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 11/20/2008 8:09:31 PM
Author: greysca1e
second picture:

pictures are a little better but at the angle they are at its hard to say.
It does look better in the latest pictures.

 

[greysca1e]

Date: 11/20/2008 8:16:57 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 11/20/2008 8:09:31 PM

Author: greysca1e

second picture:

pictures are a little better but at the angle they are at its hard to say.

It does look better in the latest pictures.

I am not able to tell the difference in the latest pictures compared to the first picture. What do you see differently?

And how did you know that other diamond was JA? lol you're good. I'll post the IS for that diamond when they receive the image file.

 

[JulieN]

the JA one looks good.

but they all look not too bad.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 11/20/2008 8:16:57 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 11/20/2008 8:09:31 PM
Author: greysca1e
second picture:

pictures are a little better but at the angle they are at its hard to say.
It does look better in the latest pictures.

K, can you teach me here please? The windmills look onesided to me in the pic above and the corners? Or is it the angle of the pic?

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 11/21/2008 2:59:29 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 11/20/2008 8:16:57 PM

Author: strmrdr

Date: 11/20/2008 8:09:31 PM

Author: greysca1e

second picture:

pictures are a little better but at the angle they are at its hard to say.

It does look better in the latest pictures.

K, can you teach me here please? The windmills look onesided to me in the pic above and the corners? Or is it the angle of the pic?

Severe angle in the last 2.
In the second of the original 2 there looks like some optical symmetry/patterns issues but I cant tell from sure from the picture how bad they are.
Because of the lack of lighting on it is also hard to tell for sure how much leakage and how much obstruction it has.
Saying for sure to buy it from the present info is impossible.
In the last 2 however its clear the p2 and p3 base angles are good so that's a step in the right direction.

 

[greysca1e]

Hi Karl,

Another diamond from Mark:

1.7 ct
F
VS2
6.44x6.48mm
polish VG
symm VG
table 66% (64.7 on sarin rpt... does it vary? sarin vs gia?)
depth 69.3%
thk-vthk
CH 16.1%

picture (indoor)

 

[greysca1e]

2nd picture in natural light:

 

[strmrdr]

bravo for the better pics.
Yes table size can vary machine to machine.
16% with a 66 table is good.
I really like this one it gets a kicken and is as good as the JA stone.

 

[greysca1e]

Date: 11/25/2008 10:08:52 PM
Author: strmrdr
bravo for the better pics.

Yes table size can vary machine to machine.

16% with a 66 table is good.

I really like this one it gets a kicken and is as good as the JA stone.

whoa thanks Karl. thats the best review so far!

 

[greysca1e]

Karl, is this diamond considered narrow step? or in between narrow/wide step.. sometimes I can''t tell the difference

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 11/26/2008 1:08:28 AM
Author: greysca1e
Karl, is this diamond considered narrow step? or in between narrow/wide step.. sometimes I can''t tell the difference

multiple steps so narrow step, the JA stone is the same type.
Don''t worry about the label if you like the looks of it.
A lot of them will switch looks depending on obstruction and tilt.

 

[greysca1e]

Date: 11/26/2008 1:22:37 AM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 11/26/2008 1:08:28 AM

Author: greysca1e

Karl, is this diamond considered narrow step? or in between narrow/wide step.. sometimes I can''t tell the difference

multiple steps so narrow step, the JA stone is the same type.

Don''t worry about the label if you like the looks of it.

A lot of them will switch looks depending on obstruction and tilt.

right, thanks for the advice!