Should I ask her parents permissions with or without the ring. I was thinking about taking them to a fancy restaurant, and then asking them there. My folks, my mom I mean, thinks I should show them the ring when I ask. My sister thinks that''s tacky. My aunts agreed with my mom. My dad didn''t care. So now I am asking you: FRIENDS, ROMANS, COUNTRYMEN...err wrong speech.. Give me your opinion, ask permission with or without the ring?