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Anyone know where I can find this classic tapered setting?

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platinum350

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I decided to pop the question and am in the process of putting her ring together. My g/f mentioned she liked this setting before so I was hoping to find this exact model or something very similar. It's for sale on BlueNile (http://www.bluenile.com/white-gold-engagement-ring_12962) and quite affordable but they don't offer it in Platinum. However, at one point they did offer it in Platinum, so I was thinking this manufacturer may still offer it but I am not sure who they are.

Looking for a four prong.

Please feel free to let me know what you think about this setting as well. Anyway, here are some pics:

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Re: Anyone know where I can find this classic tapered settin

It's probably just a Stuller setting.
 
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It is a classic design and any bench jeweler can put one together for you fairly quickly. It is definitely not anything that has to be custom made by an "Artiste" or "Designer"
Any retail jeweler or place that sells diamond mountings can handle this. It is best to pick one that is all ready and meets your standards of assembly neatness rather than go into a place that was willing to make one for you to find they made a poorly assembled product.
 
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Just a forewarning, if you are going to buy a setting locally, I wouldn't mention that you bought the stone online because that often gets a negative reaction. It is always best when you can get the diamond vendor to set the stone so you avoid that problem. Plus you can then insure the ring immediately. I think you got your stone from James Allen and they have some beautiful solitaire settings. I just wonder if she has seen pictures of a wide variety of styles because many of them I have never seen in a jewelry store.
 
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Gypsy|1353892392|3315370 said:
It's probably just a Stuller setting.
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I did check Stuller's site but wasn't successful in finding it there. Thanks for the suggestion though.
 
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Oldminer|1353938994|3315613 said:
It is a classic design and any bench jeweler can put one together for you fairly quickly. It is definitely not anything that has to be custom made by an "Artiste" or "Designer"
Any retail jeweler or place that sells diamond mountings can handle this. It is best to pick one that is all ready and meets your standards of assembly neatness rather than go into a place that was willing to make one for you to find they made a poorly assembled product.
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Thanks for the info. I agree, I'd much rather find one already made!
 
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diamondseeker2006|1353940782|3315633 said:
Just a forewarning, if you are going to buy a setting locally, I wouldn't mention that you bought the stone online because that often gets a negative reaction. It is always best when you can get the diamond vendor to set the stone so you avoid that problem. Plus you can then insure the ring immediately. I think you got your stone from James Allen and they have some beautiful solitaire settings. I just wonder if she has seen pictures of a wide variety of styles because many of them I have never seen in a jewelry store.
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Good call, I could see how this gets a negative reaction. I was hoping to pick out a setting from JA, as your right, they're supplying me with my diamond. I just casually mentioned to my g/f to browse their site to give me an idea of what she likes, hopefully she'll pick one soon! She's not aware that I'm about to propose.


"Wait, here is one that is very close. It tapers in but just not quite as much. It also appears to maybe be a better quality setting.

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/solitaire-ring-setting.html""

Great, thanks for finding this for me! Do you think this is a nice setting....curious as another opinion.
 
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There are a few others that I personally like better. Most jewelers don't have the quantity of styles on hand that the online vendors do, so some girls just don't know all the options. But I think that setting is fine if that is the style she really loves.
 
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diamondseeker2006|1353943905|3315660 said:
There are a few others that I personally like better. Most jewelers don't have the quantity of styles on hand that the online vendors do, so some girls just don't know all the options. But I think that setting is fine if that is the style she really loves.
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It's nice but not crazy about it either. I think I'll let her sift through some online to give me a better idea of what she really loves. Thanks again!
 
Re: Anyone know where I can find this classic tapered settin

You may have trouble finding someone to set your stone if you buy the stone and setting online. Local jewelers may not want the liability of possibly damaging stone or setting when they didn't sell either one. I really recommend getting a setting from James Allen if possible. They have some pretty solitaire settings!
 
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diamondseeker2006|1353953065|3315747 said:
You may have trouble finding someone to set your stone if you buy the stone and setting online. Local jewelers may not want the liability of possibly damaging stone or setting when they didn't sell either one. I really recommend getting a setting from James Allen if possible. They have some pretty solitaire settings!
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Your right, it just makes more sense (financially and for convenience) to buy a setting from JA and also have them set it. However, I did call them a couple minutes ago and they informed me that they would set the diamond if I wanted to ship the ring to them. I would have to pay for this service ($100) and for shipping the ring to them as well ($40). What are your thoughts on that, safe?

Also, at what point would you recommend to put insurance on the diamond? Do I need to do it before JA sets it or could I wait until I get it?

Sorry, for all the questions.
 
Re: Anyone know where I can find this classic tapered settin

Hi platinum,
I agree that such a setting is one of the most common designs in diamond rings- therefore some version of it is widely available.
BUT- think that it's very important to mention that there's drastically different levels of quality on even such a simple piece as this.
First you have the labor itself. Making sure everything is properly lined up, and that prongs are placed and polished symmetrically.

But actually before that, you have the quality and design of the parts.
Sometimes a "peg head" is used- which is the most simple of designs for a jeweler...but I have seen so many cases of parts being used with no sensitivity to design of each and making sure they look related.
Then there's stone height- a peg head means the stone will sit high- but some people want the stone to sit lower.
If a person is not looking at all these details, and won;t notice improvements, then I agree, it's probably not a good use of budget to look for higher quality.
But this is, after all, a forum about the fine points of diamonds, and there are fine points to even a simple solitaire.
 
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Rockdiamond|1353956245|3315800 said:
Hi platinum,
I agree that such a setting is one of the most common designs in diamond rings- therefore some version of it is widely available.
BUT- think that it's very important to mention that there's drastically different levels of quality on even such a simple piece as this.
First you have the labor itself. Making sure everything is properly lined up, and that prongs are placed and polished symmetrically.

But actually before that, you have the quality and design of the parts.
Sometimes a "peg head" is used- which is the most simple of designs for a jeweler...but I have seen so many cases of parts being used with no sensitivity to design of each and making sure they look related.
Then there's stone height- a peg head means the stone will sit high- but some people want the stone to sit lower.
If a person is not looking at all these details, and won;t notice improvements, then I agree, it's probably not a good use of budget to look for higher quality.
But this is, after all, a forum about the fine points of diamonds, and there are fine points to even a simple solitaire.
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Hello RockDiamond,

I have been all wrapped up in finding the perfect diamond and haven't really put as much thought into the setting, nor the issue of quality. Which as you mention are also very important. Do you have any recommendations on how to find the nicer settings? Should I stay with a particular manufacturer? When I am having it set, should I check and make sure they're using a certain type of head?
 
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platinum350|1353953823|3315768 said:
diamondseeker2006|1353953065|3315747 said:
You may have trouble finding someone to set your stone if you buy the stone and setting online. Local jewelers may not want the liability of possibly damaging stone or setting when they didn't sell either one. I really recommend getting a setting from James Allen if possible. They have some pretty solitaire settings!
Click to expand...

Your right, it just makes more sense (financially and for convenience) to buy a setting from JA and also have them set it. However, I did call them a couple minutes ago and they informed me that they would set the diamond if I wanted to ship the ring to them. I would have to pay for this service ($100) and for shipping the ring to them as well ($40). What are your thoughts on that, safe?

Also, at what point would you recommend to put insurance on the diamond? Do I need to do it before JA sets it or could I wait until I get it?

Sorry, for all the questions.
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Sure, it is safe! But you won't have to pay the setting fee if you buy one of their settings. So explore that first!
 
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Hi Platinum,
as a trades-person, I can not comment specifically on a given product, but i can make general comments:
My outlook on this is more holistic. I get why it's empowering to consumers to control the process to a greater degree - buying the stone and setting separately seems to do this.
But something is lost when you separate diamond and setting- or put another way, there are sellers that add value through better design and implementation.
We're talking about re-assessment of budget- which is an important issue to most buyers.
This is another area that a seller can add value- figuring out the needs of the buyer and matching them to the correct setting.
Basically, the nicest hand forged solitaires will be more than double compared to commercially available parts made into a ring.
To know what is right for you...have you guys looked at solitaires in the mall or at local jewelry stores?
Did she notice things like prongs and stone height? How focused on the ring, as compared to the stone itself was she, or are you?

I don't think it's necessary for most buyers to upgrade- but just like you are learning about diamonds, and might want a better stone due to increased education, settings are also a detailed subject- and crucial to your enjoyment of whichever diamond you select.

My advice to consumers is that buying stone and setting together gives greater security to buyers in terms of satisfaction. If different parties sell each of the components, they can blame each other if the ring is not right, and the buyer is left holding the bag.
It also solves the liability issues.
If you buy a diamond and setting from someone and they damage it while making or setting the ring, it seems to me they are pretty much de-facto liable.
Having said all that- there are some very fine companies that accept diamonds for setting. And some very fine companies selling loose diamonds.
But I think each buyers needs are different.
 
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Rockdiamond|1353959368|3315835 said:
Hi Platinum,
as a trades-person, I can not comment specifically on a given product, but i can make general comments:
My outlook on this is more holistic. I get why it's empowering to consumers to control the process to a greater degree - buying the stone and setting separately seems to do this.
But something is lost when you separate diamond and setting- or put another way, there are sellers that add value through better design and implementation.
We're talking about re-assessment of budget- which is an important issue to most buyers.
This is another area that a seller can add value- figuring out the needs of the buyer and matching them to the correct setting.
Basically, the nicest hand forged solitaires will be more than double compared to commercially available parts made into a ring.
To know what is right for you...have you guys looked at solitaires in the mall or at local jewelry stores?
Did she notice things like prongs and stone height? How focused on the ring, as compared to the stone itself was she, or are you?

I don't think it's necessary for most buyers to upgrade- but just like you are learning about diamonds, and might want a better stone due to increased education, settings are also a detailed subject- and crucial to your enjoyment of whichever diamond you select.

My advice to consumers is that buying stone and setting together gives greater security to buyers in terms of satisfaction. If different parties sell each of the components, they can blame each other if the ring is not right, and the buyer is left holding the bag.
It also solves the liability issues.
If you buy a diamond and setting from someone and they damage it while making or setting the ring, it seems to me they are pretty much de-facto liable.
Having said all that- there are some very fine companies that accept diamonds for setting. And some very fine companies selling loose diamonds.
But I think each buyers needs are different.
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Interesting points of view RockDiamond, I'm now a little more confused on which path to take lol.

We casually browsed some rings at the mall and I noticed some things that she didn't while looking at rings, such as a tall stone height. It was probably the first time I really looked at an engagement ring and that stood out to me. I think I'm also much more particular than she is. She just mentioned that she likes the simple design of a 4 prong solitaire setting with a round diamond. However, next time we looked, she showed me another ring with 2 side stones which she liked very much. It had a slightly thicker band, which she said she liked because she has longer fingers. I'm hoping she'll use the bait I threw at her, and will browse the JA website.

Regarding keeping the diamond and setting together, it makes sense and I like the idea. At this point, I haven't' done anything but put 3 diamonds on hold, one which I like quite a bit. My plan is/was to purchase that diamond and a setting from James Allen and have them do it all. Especially for the liability reasons.

I appreciate your advice!
 
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minmin001|1353969509|3315984 said:
how about this setting? it is 6 prongs instead of 4 prongs, but I always think 6 prong gives a very classic look as well
http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/14k-white-gold-tapered-six-prong-filigree-basket-solitaire-engagement-ring.html
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I saw this one yesterday...and I like it! I'm sure she would too! Does this style, with a basket, take away from the diamond at all? I'm most likely going with a 1.11 carat and want it to be nicely showcased and not hidden. I guess that's fairly obvious when picking out a ring though.
 
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I like this one a little better because it has a smaller base which will allow the wedding band to sit closer than the other one:

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/solitaire-rings/ring/item_57-9641.asp

This my other favorite and it happens to be a lot like mine:

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/platinum-six-prong-knife-edged-solitaire-engagement-ring-handmade-17192p.html

If she were here, we'd tell her that a wider band on the engagement ring makes the diamond look smaller. And a thinner band allows a wider wedding band, or two smaller stacking bands. I wouldn't go wider than 2.0-2.5mm on an engagement ring, personally.
 
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Both of those are very nice! I think the knife edge is cool looking. The first one puts me over budget and the second is in my price area. What's your opinion with 6 prongs, I was afraid that they wold take away from the diamond, hence why I was aiming for a four prong. I do know that the 6 would keep it more secure though.

Ahh, good point about the wedding band. Too thick and that could be way to much. Great suggestions diamondseeker2006!!
 
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I really like the setting minmin posted as well as the 2nd one DS suggested! I don't think 6 prongs will take away from a 1.1 ct diamond. I've seen 6 prongs on smaller stones (I have a 0.79 ct with 6 prongs) and I think they look great. Keep us updated on what you choose!
 
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So she took a look through the settings on JA and apparently she's not in love with just the solitaires. This is one of the ones she mentioned she liked, especially the head on it. I think it's referred to as the common prong?

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/settings-with-sidestones/14k-white-gold-common-prong-diamond-engagement-ring.html

She also liked part of this, didn't like the cross prong:
http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/14k-white-gold-cross-prong-diamond-accent-solitaire-ring-11117w14.html

So she likes several different styles, which makes it hard for me to decide lol. I'm thinking the first one as of now.
 
Re: Anyone know where I can find this classic tapered settin

platinum350|1353888393|3315307 said:
I decided to pop the question and am in the process of putting her ring together. My g/f mentioned she liked this setting before so I was hoping to find this exact model or something very similar. It's for sale on BlueNile (http://www.bluenile.com/white-gold-engagement-ring_12962) and quite affordable but they don't offer it in Platinum. However, at one point they did offer it in Platinum, so I was thinking this manufacturer may still offer it but I am not sure who they are.

Looking for a four prong.

Please feel free to let me know what you think about this setting as well. Anyway, here are some pics:
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Have you checked with B2C for the similar ring? why not take the advantage of "Try It For Free" option.

http://www.b2cjewels.com/Traditional-Solitaire-Settings/Reverse-Tapered-Solitaire-Diamond-Ring-Platinum-%282.7-mm%29-6473-1.aspx
 
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That's a great idea Sakari, even if it's just for me to look at it before purchasing as it's going to be a surprise. I'm planning on purchasing the ring and diamond at the same place too, which saw B2C had some nice ones. Thanks again
 
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diamondseeker2006|1353972370|3316009 said:
I like this one a little better because it has a smaller base which will allow the wedding band to sit closer than the other one:

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/solitaire-rings/ring/item_57-9641.asp

This my other favorite and it happens to be a lot like mine:

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/platinum-six-prong-knife-edged-solitaire-engagement-ring-handmade-17192p.html

If she were here, we'd tell her that a wider band on the engagement ring makes the diamond look smaller. And a thinner band allows a wider wedding band, or two smaller stacking bands. I wouldn't go wider than 2.0-2.5mm on an engagement ring, personally.
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Ok so I'm starting to really lean towards the JA Knife edge but in 4 prong:
http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/14k-white-gold-25mm-knife-edge-solitaire-diamond-ring-17002w14.html

They offer it in 2 or 2.5mm, think it'd be ok to go with the 2.5mm?

Also, does it look like with this setting that diamond will sit real low? This is all uncharted waters to me but I'm learning quite a bit with big thanks to all you PSers!
 
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I am a bit biased as I currently own the Vatche u113, but I chose the 6 prong to accent the diamonds shape. I just felt that the 4 prong made the round shapes look more square, which wasn't for me. Also, what does she do for a living? 4 prongs are beautiful because you can see more diamond, but if she is knocking it around, she carries the risk of chipping her stone.

Here is mine from above, you can also see more pictures if you go to my topics and look for the thread dedicated to it. Good luck!

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Re: Anyone know where I can find this classic tapered settin

I think that setting is fine for a basic solitaire setting. It isn't the same quality as the handmade one I linked before, but it certainly will be adequate. Like Mico, I feel like the stone is a little more protected with 6 prongs, but you need insurance regardless, so you should be fine.
 
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