Any Chance this SI-2 stone will be eyeclean?

[DiverDown]

I am going to make a trip to look at this stone. I know you can''t really tell from the report but is there any opinions of weather or not I should just not waste my time.

Thanks,
J

 

[neatfreak]

Anything''s possible. Can''t you just ask the vendor to tell you before you make the trip? I would also carefully check the clouds AND get an idealscope to make sure they are not affecting the light return since they are all in a cluster together...

 

[Jenn5504]

Really no way to know without a visual inspection. Ask the vendor to tell you but always check for yourself, too. Have you run the numbers through the HCA? Just curious how a VG vs EX GIA cut scores. I certainly love the carat weight and color of that stone!

I''m the very proud and satisfied owner of a J SI2 and I LOVE the value an SI2 can offer.

 

[chrono]

Without the table and depth %, and the crown and pavilion %, I have no idea if the stone is a beauty or a dud. It looks like the cert is the mini-cert. You''ll be able to get all that information from the full GIA cert. As for the inclusions, it''s really hard to tell from the plot because it isn''t 3 dimensional.

 

[FireGoddess]

A plot can look heinously marked up with red ink and still be eye clean...it''s something you need to ask the vendor (if they have the stone ''in house'').

 

[kcoursolle]

It''s hard to tell from a plot, but it is possible. You might get lucky and the inclusions at the outer edge might be noticeable, but able to be covered with a prong.

Please post the cut information, this is the most important part of what makes a diamond sparkle!

 

[DiverDown]

I should have stated i cropped the cert image becasue i was having a heck of a time getting it under the 100k limit. So it is a full cert with that section cropped out of it.

I ran the numbers through the HCA and it scored a 2.0. It was very good in all catagories and excellent in the spread.

Thanks,
J

 

[jayreneepea]

Date: 6/28/2007 1:20:11 PM
Author: kcoursolle
It''s hard to tell from a plot, but it is possible. You might get lucky and the inclusions at the outer edge might be noticeable, but able to be covered with a prong.

Please post the cut information, this is the most important part of what makes a diamond sparkle!

Not only does it make it sparkle, but all that sparkle will help mask the inclusions!

 

[DiverDown]

As requested. Here is the cut info from the cert. Thanks again for the advise.

J

 

[kcoursolle]

Date: 6/28/2007 2:15:48 PM
Author: DiverDown
As requested. Here is the cut info from the cert. Thanks again for the advise.

J

Not bad, crown angle is a tiny bit shallow but many like the look. If it''s clean it could be a really nice stone.

 

[mela lu]

....and a pretty big table. I think it comes down to personal preference. I prefer the look of a small table and high crown, but there are others who prefer the opposite. This may be one you need to see to decide.

 

[kcoursolle]

Date: 6/28/2007 3:39:54 PM
Author: mela lu
....and a pretty big table. I think it comes down to personal preference. I prefer the look of a small table and high crown, but there are others who prefer the opposite. This may be one you need to see to decide.

Yes, the table is pretty large. It should be a very bright and white diamond, but not one with a lot of fire if you like that.

 

[jayreneepea]

Date: 6/28/2007 3:44:43 PM
Author: kcoursolle

Date: 6/28/2007 3:39:54 PM
Author: mela lu
....and a pretty big table. I think it comes down to personal preference. I prefer the look of a small table and high crown, but there are others who prefer the opposite. This may be one you need to see to decide.

Yes, the table is pretty large. It should be a very bright and white diamond, but not one with a lot of fire if you like that.

So, would bright and white hide inclusions as well as sparkly does?

 

[DiverDown]

So even though it scored very good on the HCA for fire will it not really havce fire becasue of the slightly large table???

JP

 

[JulieN]

Big table and shallow crown will make it seem whiter. Unless you have a strong preference for fire, I wouldn't dismiss the stone.

Jayrenay, fire and sparkle are not the same thing.

 

[WorkingHardforSmallRewards]

Also, very good and excellent are different. Nobody was suggesting it would be TERRIBLE but it''s strength would certainly not be fire with that low crown angle and that large table. Further, I am not 100% sure how that LGF combo will impact the fire with those angles but my understanding is that 80% LGF will create much smaller burst of fire. Thus I would want to see it in person at least before purchasing. as less fire and smaller burst doesn''t really spell maximum beauty to me.

 

[JulieN]

Ok, I must have started my Friday drinking a little early. First, I thought you had a J, not an H, because of your signature. Then I thought it was 62D, 59T. And then I thought you meant $100K for the stone, not 100K for the image.

 

[Finding_Neverland]

Date: 6/29/2007 8:27:33 PM
Author: JulieN
Ok, I must have started my Friday drinking a little early. First, I thought you had a J, not an H, because of your signature. Then I thought it was 62D, 59T. And then I thought you meant $100K for the stone, not 100K for the image.

Hiccup!

ROFLMAO!!!

 

[jayreneepea]

Date: 6/29/2007 8:00:41 PM
Author: JulieN
Big table and shallow crown will make it seem whiter. Unless you have a strong preference for fire, I wouldn''t dismiss the stone.

Jayrenay, fire and sparkle are not the same thing.

Right... I was wondering about the difference between bright and white as opposed to sparkly in regards to masking inclusions.

 

[WorkingHardforSmallRewards]

I think you should run a search on LOCATION of inclusions rather than how the dispersion/scintillation/brightness mask inclusions. look for threads specifically on inclusions under the table and inclusions near the girdle. As a place to start, it seems quite logical to me and is my understanding that an inclusion under a large flat surface (such as the table) would be easier to spot than one under a myriad of angled facets. Thus, inclusions under the table should be easier to spot. Also, if it is in the center of the diamond it will be more prone to reflect than if it were off to the side.

Of course the light source will be important, get that ideal cut in direct sunlight and forget about it. You may not even be able to look directly at your diamond

though you will try. But get it in diffused lighting or indoors and it will really depend on positioning rather than light characteristics as to how quickly you can spot equivalent inclusions.

But really, if you are going in person and are armed with what you should inspect, then you don''t really need to worry about how or why the inclusion is masked, but only that it is.