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Cluelesscushion

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Please give me your advice on this cushion. It fits all the specs I was looking for after countless days of searching. And it is very very good looking. The only issue is color being H and the table possibly being too big? Will H make color visible in some light? Will the big table prevent light coming in at certain angles?

1.54 ct H-VS2 ($8,400) GIA...Modern Brilliant Cushion
Excellent Polish
VG Symmetry
6.49x6.50x4.4 (perfect square!)
Table 65%
Depth 65.9%
Flourescence - NONE
Culet - NONE
Girdle - Slightly thick to very thick (large facets)

Its beautiful cushion to me. I just want to make sure I don''t make a mistake and a month (or 2 or 3) see that the big table or H color have negative effects on the stone. Please let me know what you think. Unfortunately I don''t have a picture.
 
I don''t think you''ll have a problem with the H color, especially in a brilliant faceted diamond. As to the table, it doesn''t sound overly large, but I''m no expert.
 
H color should be fine. I usually look for smaller tables but I swear I have seen some gorgeous cushions in the 63-65% range. A lot of harry winston stones have tables like that so it all depends on each individual one. A pic would be best to get a better sense, but these specs alone shouldnt be a concern. if you saw it and it sparkles, I saw go for it.
 
If you love the diamond that is the main thing, and a reliably graded H colour should still be plenty white, I have a 2 ct GIA H pear which is extremely white to me, so I would imagine a cushion would also be fine. Take a good look at it in as many different lights as you can, to make sure. The table should be fine, there are no ideal numbers for cushions, choose with your eyes and your heart! You will know what is beautiful to you when you see it, and it sounds like you have.
 

Well I went back today pretty much w/ the intention of buying it. I asked if I could compare it to a G-vs1 cushion that is almost the exact size and exact specs. The G blew the H WAAAY out of the water. Not because of color or clarity, but it made mrealize the H did have the crushed ice effect, which I did not like. The G sparkled so much more on the outside. The H had so much going on in the inside and I did not like it. My jeweler kind of got annoyed with me I think.


I do not know what to do. The G is way out of my budget, but I might be able to stomach it. Uggggh.

 
Okay - although very frustrated and impatient, I have narrowed my search down to a cusion brilliant over a modified cushion brilliant. I just like the look of it much much more. Will also look amazing on the ring I plan on getting with shared prong round diamonds on the band. Finding the rish cushion is a pretty frustrating process. I was hoping to have purchased a ring by now, so I am getting a tad impatient.
 
Cushions take awhile to locate, especially those that don''t have the common crushed ice look. There were several posters on PS who took a few months to find the right stone. Your jeweler shouldn''t be peeved, just tell him to bring in stones like the G, but in an H color. You''re not obligated to settle for what he already has in the showcase. He should be willing to work for your business and bring things in on memo.
 
Date: 8/11/2008 6:42:48 PM
Author: purrfectpear
Cushions take awhile to locate, especially those that don''t have the common crushed ice look. There were several posters on PS who took a few months to find the right stone. Your jeweler shouldn''t be peeved, just tell him to bring in stones like the G, but in an H color. You''re not obligated to settle for what he already has in the showcase. He should be willing to work for your business and bring things in on memo.
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agree 100% the right cushions take months to find but well worth it. I almost bought 2 others but didnt want to settle so ended up canceling orders with my jeweler - they may be annoyed but thats what they get paid to do.

its good you have realized cushion brilliants are what you prefer. just have your jeweler find one with that on the cert as a start. whatever you do, dont rush and buy just any cushion...the right stone is just around the corner.
 
Thank you...

Stone Seeker....is that a cushion brilliant in your picture to the left?
 
Hi there...to second the other members'' sentiment, cushions will take some time to find. It took me a couple months before I found what I was looking for as well. In the meantime, I highly recommend reading up on the different types of cuts for cushions. However, from your comments, its clear you like the chunky faceted "cushion brilliant" cut. I highly recommend checking out good old gold. They have some good information on the site, as well as some wonderful videos, which compares different types of cushions. Jon from GOG is excellent to work with. Mark from ERD is also highly recommended.

In the meantime, I''ve found a bunch of diamonds on the James Allen site which you can peruse. These should all be cushion brilliants (all 4 Pavillion...the 8 Pavillion are harder to come by).

1.51 G VS1
1.52 H VS2
1.50 G VS2
1.51 G VS1
1.52 G VS2
1.52 H VS1
1.53 H VS1

Also with JA, you can use a pricescope discount code...which knocks off another 500 bux off the price.

For your reference, this is what my 8 pavillion GIA report looks like:
my 8 pav

pic

(1.57 F VS1)my video

This is a different 8 pavillion cut (like stone seekers...I believe)

other 8 pavillion


Good luck with your search :P
 
Date: 8/11/2008 10:21:00 PM
Author: Cluelesscushion
Thank you...

Stone Seeker....is that a cushion brilliant in your picture to the left?
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Yes, its a cushion brilliant with 8 pavillion mains. Specs and pics here: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-new-chunky-faceted-cushion-thoughts.91435/

dc has picked out some good stones for you. The 8 pavillion mains will generally lend themselves to more chunkier facets and broad flashes of light under the table (dc- your stone rocks btw).

Also, typically smaller tables relative to depth tend to produce (but not always which makes cushion picking tough) a lot more fire and sparkle. But there are many examples where beautiful stones have been produced with large tables. The fact that no numbers = great performance make cushion viewing the only reliable method. GOG, as dc points out, can shoot some video for you on stones they have which will most certainly help. But general guidelines should be cushion brilliant (as the other typically results in a crushed ice appearance but not always), 8 pavillion mains (4 main are also beautiful), depth in the mid-60s and tables in the mid to high 50s.

Again, these are pure guidelines that if met, may result in a great looking stone upon visual inspection. But as dc said, these are often hard to come by which is why it takes so long to find the right one. If you are in a rush, I would suggest going with one of the experts such as Mark Turnowski at ERD or Good Old Gold. But definitely check out the videos at GOG so you can see the various types of cushions.
 
Date: 8/12/2008 8:09:14 AM
Author: stone_seeker

Date: 8/11/2008 10:21:00 PM
Author: Cluelesscushion
Thank you...

Stone Seeker....is that a cushion brilliant in your picture to the left?
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Yes, its a cushion brilliant with 8 pavillion mains. Specs and pics here: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-new-chunky-faceted-cushion-thoughts.91435/

dc has picked out some good stones for you. The 8 pavillion mains will generally lend themselves to more chunkier facets and broad flashes of light under the table (dc- your stone rocks btw).

Also, typically smaller tables relative to depth tend to produce (but not always which makes cushion picking tough) a lot more fire and sparkle. But there are many examples where beautiful stones have been produced with large tables. The fact that no numbers = great performance make cushion viewing the only reliable method. GOG, as dc points out, can shoot some video for you on stones they have which will most certainly help. But general guidelines should be cushion brilliant (as the other typically results in a crushed ice appearance but not always), 8 pavillion mains (4 main are also beautiful), depth in the mid-60s and tables in the mid to high 50s.

Again, these are pure guidelines that if met, may result in a great looking stone upon visual inspection. But as dc said, these are often hard to come by which is why it takes so long to find the right one. If you are in a rush, I would suggest going with one of the experts such as Mark Turnowski at ERD or Good Old Gold. But definitely check out the videos at GOG so you can see the various types of cushions.
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Ditto. Don''t settle, you will find the right one!
 
Thank you all very much for your advice. I appreciate it very much. These are the specs that I gave my jeweler and they are actively looking for a cushion that meets these sepcs (or very close to it).

Carat - 1.30-1.6
Color - G/H
Clarity - VS2 or Eyeclean SI1
Polish - VG/EX
Symmetry - VG/EX
L/W Ratio - 1.00-1.05
Table - 53/61%
Depth - 61/68%
Girdle - Medium to Thick (polished or faceted)
 
Date: 8/12/2008 9:18:40 AM
Author: Cluelesscushion
Thank you all very much for your advice. I appreciate it very much. These are the specs that I gave my jeweler and they are actively looking for a cushion that meets these sepcs (or very close to it).

Carat - 1.30-1.6
Color - G/H
Clarity - VS2 or Eyeclean SI1
Polish - VG/EX
Symmetry - VG/EX
L/W Ratio - 1.00-1.05
Table - 53/61%
Depth - 61/68%
Girdle - Medium to Thick (polished or faceted)
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Great. Be sure your jeweler only picks cushion brilliants (not modifieds) since that seems to be what you prefer. With these specs as guidelines you will hopefully find a few options that will also have visual appeal to you.
 
Yes I have told them Cushion Brilliant (not modified). Its amazing how much more I like cushion brilliants. The chunkey facets are so amazing to me.
 
Date: 8/12/2008 9:42:27 AM
Author: Cluelesscushion
Yes I have told them Cushion Brilliant (not modified). Its amazing how much more I like cushion brilliants. The chunkey facets are so amazing to me.
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Couldnt agree more....well worth the wait once you see those nice broad chunky flashes of light in person!
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still waiting on my cushion. i am starting to get pretty impatient. i wanted to be engaged by now.
 
have you called Mark @ ERD?
 
Hang in there, CluelessCushion! I searched high and low for a cushion brillant as well before I came across the one I loved.

The others have given great advice. Good luck with your search! I''m sure you''ll find the perfect one
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How long did it take you?

No, I haven''t talked to mark at ERD. I am trying to stay as loyal as possible to the 2 brokers I am using in Houston that my family and friends have all used. But I am starting to grow pretty impatient. I started my search a couple months ago....at least.
 
Date: 8/25/2008 2:32:36 PM
Author: Cluelesscushion
How long did it take you?

No, I haven't talked to mark at ERD. I am trying to stay as loyal as possible to the 2 brokers I am using in Houston that my family and friends have all used. But I am starting to grow pretty impatient. I started my search a couple months ago....at least.
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I was fairly lucky, it took about three weeks. What really helped was that I broadened my search beyond what I initially thought would be acceptable to me. I initially thought nothing less than D-H, VS2 would do. I had a very specific look I wanted - antique chunky - and when I first limited myself to those parameters, I was frustrated at the limited choices I came across. Then, after reading about and seeing all the beautiful diamonds in the lower color and clarity ranges on PS, and going out and seeing some loose stones to get an idea of what VS1 and SI1, I-M looked like, I broadened my search and came across a beautiful 1.52 G/SI2 antique faceted cushion. I never thought I'd accept a SI2 but it's completely eye-clean at all angles and all distances and the two white inclusions are tough to spot even with a 10x loupe.
 
Make life easier and still stay safe....


Date: 8/12/2008 9:18:40 AM
Author: Cluelesscushion
Thank you all very much for your advice. I appreciate it very much. These are the specs that I gave my jeweler and they are actively looking for a cushion that meets these sepcs (or very close to it).

Carat - 1.30-1.6
Color - G/H
Clarity - VS2 or Eyeclean SI1
Polish - VG/EX Nothing wrong with GD...., ( and in case you are into the antique appearance..., fair is also welcomed
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Symmetry - VG/EX Same here...
L/W Ratio - 1.00-1.05
Table - 53/61% Again..., in-case of antique..., your are safe with smaller tables 41%+ is great if it is in harmony with the rest of the proportions...
Depth - 61/68% Go wider on the range..., judge with your eyes..., make sure there is a correct balance between crown height and pavilion depth...
Girdle - Medium to Thick (polished or faceted) In antiques thin and thinner can easily go..., (unless you are worried of girdle fragility)
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Remember..., there are no numbers for cushions..., so you better of starting with a wider range..., but use common sense.

Good luck,
 
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