AGS Certified Diamond Opinion

[h_dog2]

Found in the paper someone advertising the following AGS Certified diamond:

Measurements: 6.83 - 6.85 x 4.21mm
Cut - AGS Ideal 0
Colour - AGS 1.0 F
Clarity - AGS 3 (VS1)
Carat - 1.208 cts

This is the info i pulled off the picture of the certificate sent to me (assuming I am picking the right values off the diagram).

Depth - 61.5
Table - 55.9
Crown Angle - 34.4
Pavilion Angle - 40.7

Entering this info, i get a 1.0 rating.

I have been considering looking for a G colour VS2 but am sort of interested in this one because it is a local person, and if i can negotiate a good price, then I would save myself shipping and the time and effort with customs and duty (i live in Canada).

Let me know your thoughts on this one.

 

[JulieN]

sounds good.

 

[honey22]

Sounds like a great stone from the numbers. If it gets a 0 for light performance, then it''s a winner I would suggest.

 

[Cleo]

Sounds lovely! x x x

 

[Lorelei]

hdog, it sounds great, I would get an independant appraiser involved if you are interested in pursuing this diamond.

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

Date: 8/25/2008 3:02:13 AM
Author: Lorelei
hdog, it sounds great, I would get an independant appraiser involved if you are interested in pursuing this diamond.

I agree

 

[kcoursolle]

The specs look great. To get an idea of what type of pricing you would get online go to the prices tab, then search for stones with similar carat weight, clarity, and color although a B&M might have a difficult time getting close to online prices.

 

[h_dog2]

Thanks, I will do a search to see what else is around similar to this diamond. I f i could figure out how to post the idealscope image of this diamond, i would but it sure appears to be very nice. I would definately get it appraised prior to purchasing it!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 8/25/2008 10:52:49 AM
Author: h_dog2
Thanks, I will do a search to see what else is around similar to this diamond. I f i could figure out how to post the idealscope image of this diamond, i would but it sure appears to be very nice. I would definately get it appraised prior to purchasing it!

This thread might help - https://www.pricescope.com/forum/faq1/how-to-upload-reduce-pictures-for-posting-t41381.html if not, then send the image to admin and they will help you.

 

[h_dog2]

Here is the IS image of the diamond, I really don't know what to look for, I am hoping the crown and pavillion data i stated was correct.... I had to pick the date from the AGS certificate diagram, i'm more used to going to the GIA website and grabbing the numbers directly, instead of trying to figure it out from the diagram.


Let me know what you guys think. I have asked the seller if i could get it to an appraiser. I am still trying to decide if I want to go with the G colour one, VS2, diamond, which is 30% cheaper! If they would ever call me or email me back, that would really help!! this was my post for the other diamond https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/thoughts-on-two-more-diamonds.93516/

 

[Lorelei]

That is the hearts image which looks fine, do you have the Idealscope for the face up view of the stone? Looking good though!

 

[h_dog2]

Here is what i could find, still can''t figure out how to post multiple pics yet.

 

[h_dog2]

here is another pic

 

[h_dog2]

I am trying to short list my options..

I am thinking either this one above or possibly saving some money and go with this one (30-35% less):

-i entered the parameters and got a 1.4 rating

Report Type: GIA Diamond Grading Report
Date of Issue: June 1, 2008
Round Brilliant
Measurements: 6.98 - 7.02 x 4.35 mm
Carat Weight: 1.30
Color Grade: G
Clarity Grade: VS2
Cut Grade: Excellent
Proportions:
Depth: 62.1 %
Table: 55 %
Crown Angle: 34°
Crown Height: 15.5 %
Pavilion Angle: 41°
Pavilion Depth: 43 %
Star length: 55 %
Lower Half: 80 %
Girdle: Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted
Culet: None
Finish:
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Very Good
Fluorescence: None
Comments: Additional clouds are not shown.

Am i keying too much on the clarity? would this combo of G/VS2 be alright? without saying, the more expensive one will be better, but to the naked eye, would there be much of a difference? I guess the one has a 1.0 rating and the other has a 1.4 rating....

 

[JoeNewbie11]

At that carat weight, you could safely go to a G and likely not see any color difference and save the $$$$. Perhaps even a H color would do the trick, I would recommend going to some local jewelers who carry AGS Ideal cut round brilliants and take a look. You could get more rock for your $$$$ or just save the money period.

 

[Lorelei]

G VS could certainly be a nice combo, the diamond looks promising from the info given, an Idealscope image would be useful though. It depends on whether you want to save the money and still have a good diamond, or go with the F VS1 AGS0, it depends on what you value more.

 

[WinkHPD]

Date: 8/24/2008 11:25:08 PM
Author:h_dog2
Found in the paper someone advertising the following AGS Certified diamond:

Measurements: 6.83 - 6.85 x 4.21mm
Cut - AGS Ideal 0
Colour - AGS 1.0 F
Clarity - AGS 3 (VS1)
Carat - 1.208 cts

This is the info i pulled off the picture of the certificate sent to me (assuming I am picking the right values off the diagram).

Depth - 61.5
Table - 55.9
Crown Angle - 34.4
Pavilion Angle - 40.7

Entering this info, i get a 1.0 rating.

I have been considering looking for a G colour VS2 but am sort of interested in this one because it is a local person, and if i can negotiate a good price, then I would save myself shipping and the time and effort with customs and duty (i live in Canada).

Let me know your thoughts on this one.

I have received a couple of emails asking me why I have not responded to you. I was initially confused because I can find no record of ever having corresponded with you, but when I read more deeply into your post I see that you are responding to a stone advertised in your local paper.

This confuses me even more since this is my Crafted by Infinity diamond, it is in my safe here in Idaho. I have cross checked with the image you posted and all of the numbers match perfectly. I would send it to any of the other Crafted by Infinity dealer, but when I go to the website I see no dealers listed in Canada.

I would offer this advice. Unless you are working with one of the Crafted by Infinity dealers who is near to where you are and just across the border, then run away from this diamond. (You might check with Paul Slegers to see if we have a new dealer in Canada that I am not aware of.) I will not ship it to any jeweler who is not a Crafted by Infinity diamond dealer and the diamond that you will be receiving will not be the one who''s measurements and photos you are looking at.

Wink

P. S. I decided to check with Paul before posting this. He assures me that we do not yet have a dealer in Canada. I hate to warn you away from this incredible diamond, but I would hate even more for you to be taken advantage of. Please be very careful. I showed this diamond just yesterday afternoon to a client in my office, I KNOW FOR SURE WHERE IT IS!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 8/26/2008 10:16:16 AM
Author: Wink

Date: 8/24/2008 11:25:08 PM
Author:h_dog2
Found in the paper someone advertising the following AGS Certified diamond:

Measurements: 6.83 - 6.85 x 4.21mm
Cut - AGS Ideal 0
Colour - AGS 1.0 F
Clarity - AGS 3 (VS1)
Carat - 1.208 cts

This is the info i pulled off the picture of the certificate sent to me (assuming I am picking the right values off the diagram).

Depth - 61.5
Table - 55.9
Crown Angle - 34.4
Pavilion Angle - 40.7

Entering this info, i get a 1.0 rating.

I have been considering looking for a G colour VS2 but am sort of interested in this one because it is a local person, and if i can negotiate a good price, then I would save myself shipping and the time and effort with customs and duty (i live in Canada).

Let me know your thoughts on this one.

I have received a couple of emails asking me why I have not responded to you. I was initially confused because I can find no record of ever having corresponded with you, but when I read more deeply into your post I see that you are responding to a stone advertised in your local paper.

This confuses me even more since this is my Crafted by Infinity diamond, it is in my safe here in Idaho. I have cross checked with the image you posted and all of the numbers match perfectly. I would send it to any of the other Crafted by Infinity dealer, but when I go to the website I see no dealers listed in Canada.

I would offer this advice. Unless you are working with one of the Crafted by Infinity dealers who is near to where you are and just across the border, then run away from this diamond. (You might check with Paul Slegers to see if we have a new dealer in Canada that I am not aware of.) I will not ship it to any jeweler who is not a Crafted by Infinity diamond dealer and the diamond that you will be receiving will not be the one who''s measurements and photos you are looking at.

Wink

P. S. I decided to check with Paul before posting this. He assures me that we do not yet have a dealer in Canada. I hate to warn you away from this incredible diamond, but I would hate even more for you to be taken advantage of. Please be very careful. I showed this diamond just yesterday afternoon to a client in my office, I KNOW FOR SURE WHERE IT IS!

Thank you for the above information Wink.

 

[Paul-Antwerp]

LOL. I was giving Wink hell, because he was apparently slow in responding to a consumer.

Seriously now. This is a serious matter. If this diamond is indeed advertised by a local retailer in Canada, this is utter mis-representation. The original data and pics of that stone can be found here, =478&src=loupe:2o8h065d]link.

He is not only using our pics, but also the copy of our AGS-grading report. I truly wonder what he would deliver, if you bought it.

 

[purrfectpear]

Hopefully OP will clarify but when he said advertised in local paper, I guess I thought it was a private party selling their diamond. Weirder yet if it''s a retail store claiming to have the stone.

 

[h_dog2]

I'm sorry about the delay in my response. It's hard looking for diamonds and having to do a real job at the same time!!

Thanks Wink and Paul for the information, yes I found this person on the internet advertising that he is a local diamond dealer. before going to sleep, I was able to find this exact same diamond doing a search on pricescope. Just to make sure I was not posting the wrong diamond, etc, I checked the emails this person has sent me, the AGS Certificate number is exactly the same as the link you sent me (actually, he sent me the exact image of the certificate). Sounds like this person is falsely advertising. Shoud I be reporting this person? Not sure if he's done anything wrong but I'd hate for him to scam anyone by selling someone a diamond that is not the real thing.

Thank you very much for the advice, I am glad I am on this website!

 

[denverappraiser]

Complain to the local BBB and maybe even the police. He’s advertising a stone that you absolutely know that he doesn’t have and can’t get. I don’t know Canadian law for beans but beyond violating Paul’s copyrights on his images this is an attempt to defraud and it seems likely that this is illegal. It would be in the US. Is there a website? What’s the URL?

Neil Beaty
GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA
Professional Appraisals in Denver

 

[h_dog2]

Dave/Wink, if you would want this person's contact info, i can provide you with his emails and what he has sent me for info (but you will have to send me your email addresses, the system won't allow me to send private emails), for obvious reasons, I will not post his contact info here (actually, if you can send me your emails anyway, I can maybe correspond with you that way). He did not actually advertise this diamond on the internet, he had an ad saying he is a local dealer selling diamonds and a good price (something like that). I responded to his ad and gave him the specs of what i was looking for, he then responded to me with a price and the diamond specs.

 

[Paul-Antwerp]

We have asked Andrey, the owner of PS, to contact you to get this info. He can then forward it to us. In this way, you do not need to show this online.

Thank you for your co-operation. We will keep you informed.

Live long,

 

[WinkHPD]

Date: 8/26/2008 1:57:03 PM
Author: h_dog2
I''m sorry about the delay in my response. It''s hard looking for diamonds and having to do a real job at the same time!!

Thanks Wink and Paul for the information, yes I found this person on the internet advertising that he is a local diamond dealer. before going to sleep, I was able to find this exact same diamond doing a search on pricescope. Just to make sure I was not posting the wrong diamond, etc, I checked the emails this person has sent me, the AGS Certificate number is exactly the same as the link you sent me (actually, he sent me the exact image of the certificate). Sounds like this person is falsely advertising. Shoud I be reporting this person? Not sure if he''s done anything wrong but I''d hate for him to scam anyone by selling someone a diamond that is not the real thing.

Thank you very much for the advice, I am glad I am on this website!

We are too, and welcome aboard, I see that you are fairly new in terms of total posts.

I was probably remiss in telling you to check with Paul as he is several hours ahead of us (eight if you are in Mountain Time) and it will always be easier to check these type of things with John Pollard who is in Central Time. I do know that John is working with at least one Canadian jeweler to become an Infinity dealer, so it may not be too long before you can look at one without all the hassles of customs etc.

You did not say what part of Canada you are in, are you out West like me, or are you in the Middle or Eastern part of the country?

Wink

 

[WinkHPD]

Date: 8/26/2008 3:32:15 PM
Author: h_dog2
Dave/Wink, if you would want this person''s contact info, i can provide you with his emails and what he has sent me for info (but you will have to send me your email addresses, the system won''t allow me to send private emails), for obvious reasons, I will not post his contact info here (actually, if you can send me your emails anyway, I can maybe correspond with you that way). He did not actually advertise this diamond on the internet, he had an ad saying he is a local dealer selling diamonds and a good price (something like that). I responded to his ad and gave him the specs of what i was looking for, he then responded to me with a price and the diamond specs.

As per Paul''s response immediately below yours I know that the wheels of justice are grinding. I appreciate your being willing to forward this information to Paul. He will take this very seriously.

You, or anyone can contact any of the vendors here by clicking on the underlined tag at the bottom of our posts, which will take you to our websites and from there you can use the contact us page. It is not intuitive perhaps, but it works very well.

Wink

 

[h_dog2]

I am in the west, Alberta, Canada (mountain time). Yes, I am fairly new to this website, I have found it very useful to help screen out the good and bad diamonds. Obviously as a consumer, i am trying to do as much research and get the right diamond at a good price.

If you would like to follow up with this person, you I can provide you with all his information. In fact, if you reply to his ad on the internet, I am sure he would send you the same info as he has sent me. I just don't want to get tied up too much with this whole situation though as it sounds like it could get abit hairy, but I do not mind helping out what I can and providing whatever info is necessary (plus remember, i am trying to avoid my girlfriend from finding out I am buying her a ring!!). And i am all for trying to stop scammers like this guy!

Wink - I will email you directly at winfields.

 

[WinkHPD]

Date: 8/26/2008 3:53:38 PM
Author: h_dog2
I am in the west, Alberta, Canada (mountain time). Yes, I am fairly new to this website, I have found it very useful to help screen out the good and bad diamonds. Obviously as a consumer, i am trying to do as much research and get the right diamond at a good price.

If you would like to follow up with this person, you I can provide you with all his information. In fact, if you reply to his ad on the internet, I am sure he would send you the same info as he has sent me. I just don''t want to get tied up too much with this whole situation though as it sounds like it could get abit hairy, but I do not mind helping out what I can and providing whatever info is necessary (plus remember, i am trying to avoid my girlfriend from finding out I am buying her a ring!!). And i am all for trying to stop scammers like this guy!

Wink - I will email you directly at winfields.

Thank you. And thank you for standing tall and letting us know who this is.

Wink