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Advise please on this round brilliant IdealScope image

Thanks. Either one is going to read a eye-clean and the size will be virtually the same (see below). For cut, the 1.28 H with its AGS000 would edge out the 1.213 G with GIAXXX. I think the inclusions are probably equivalent.

If you can request another IS, maybe this would be a tie breaker? 1.23 H VVS2 6.84 mm. 1.9 HCA in FIC range. Its very bright and I keep coming back to this one.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...-color-vvs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2668765

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p.s. NONE of your top choices are a waste of money. ALL of them are well above average and will be so much better in performance that the majority of people who, maybe, get by with GIAXXX as enough. So, you are now looking at great options with minor differnces...so we are at a lot of shades of grey. I threw the VVS in there as it takes clarity out of the equation and offers a contrast to both options. But, you have 2 (maybe 3) great options. THAT is why this is hard.
 
Not too fond of this choice compared to what you have available. There's over overobstruction with misalignment of the half pavilion mains. IMO it would be a waste of idealscope as it'll be inferior to the one you already have
Fair enough...
 
Not too fond of this choice compared to what you have available. There's over overobstruction with misalignment of the half pavilion mains. IMO it would be a waste of idealscope as it'll be inferior to the one you already have

I'm still debating whether I like the cut enough on my first option of choice. When comparing to a super ideal cut, I feel like I can see a lot of dark in between the "arrows" when rotating it... if that makes any sense. Am I reading into it too much? I would like to find a diamond that is as close to a super ideal cut as possible, without paying that premium.
 
Both are very good performers, but like I said, the 1.28 AGS000 with performance testing demonstrates its cut yields performance. It is a lovely stone.

Super-ideal is not just a matter of proportions, although they cut within narrow ones. They are really a precision of cutting and providing demonstrable performance. You can get close to super-ideal cutting, it is super-ideal or not. You can stay within the same proportions, which both of your are.

Rather than repeat the discussion read posts 14-20 below.
https://www.pricescope.com/communit...actually-better-than-vs2.232674/#post-4202177

You'd have to drop a little in size to keep the color/clarity, but these are available.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3256265.htm
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3801989.htm

Trade a little on clarity and you get this (just confirm eye clean)
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d...nd-ags-104094526042#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/2/ {ask, but I'm pretty sure this will be eye clean and the feathers on the girdle will be covered by a prong -- this is a really good SI1 and you get 1.258 AGS000; you have to decide on color}
 
Your first choice is great. Those 'dark' areas will also appear in super ideals on rotation if subject to the same camera conditions. No it's not perfect hearts and arrows and some of the imperfections could be pointed out by many people here but I really really doubt you'll notice any of them in real life. I'd say it's on the higher end of the non purposeful cut superideal ideals scale. The only reason I'd pay more and get a super ideal would be to access a great upgrade policy, not for increased perceived performance, because I think that one would do just fine.
 
Your first choice is great. Those 'dark' areas will also appear in super ideals on rotation if subject to the same camera conditions. No it's not perfect hearts and arrows and some of the imperfections could be pointed out by many people here but I really really doubt you'll notice any of them in real life. I'd say it's on the higher end of the non purposeful cut superideal ideals scale. The only reason I'd pay more and get a super ideal would be to access a great upgrade policy, not for increased perceived performance, because I think that one would do just fine.

I seriously can't thank you and all the other on here enough for your insight and wisdom. It means a lot! I'm not a good decision maker by any means and get bogged down in the details to the point where it's easier to not make a decision at all.

Is there a better upgrade policy if you're upgrading with a super ideal in-hand? I did a quick search and didn't see anything related to that.

Also, what do you mean by "non purposeful cut superdeal ideals scale"? It's on the higher end of diamonds that didn't quite have good enough performance to be a Hearts & Arrows, ACA, etc?
 
In @gm89uk saying "non purposeful cut superdeal ideals scale", I think his point was that for a diamond not deliberately cut to actually BE super-ideal, the 1.28 is very very well cut. I hope you have that diamond on 24-hr hold while you ponder...

Trade-in/Trade-up is a vendor policy, not a type of diamond policy. The stone you are trading in, usually, must be sourced by them. Some vendors might take a superb diamond on consignment (e.g., GoodOldGold), but not many do not. You will lose 20-40% of the purchase price when selling on the 'pre-loved' market, less for superb cut than for less well cut, clarity issues or obvious tint. Super-ideal vendors mentioned here generally have pretty generous policies for trade-up. The per carat price is higher for the performance, but also for that flexibility. This is important for some and not others...

JamesAllen. 100% credit towards a new purchase valued at least 2x the original amount. The diamond being upgraded must be in original condition and accompanied by original laboratory grading document. {So, you spend $8000 on diamond 1. You would have to spend a minimum of $16k on diamond #2}

Whiteflash. All in-stock diamonds (A CUT ABOVE, Expert Selection and Premium Select) and regular catalog items are covered by a full 30-day money back guarantee. All in-house (ACA + Expert) diamonds 100% credit toward any upgrade. You can trade your diamond at any time for a diamond of equal or greater value. {So, you spend $8000 on diamond 1. You can spend any amount >$8000 on diamond 2}.
 
In @gm89uk saying "non purposeful cut superdeal ideals scale", I think his point was that for a diamond not deliberately cut to actually BE super-ideal, the 1.28 is very very well cut. I hope you have that diamond on 24-hr hold while you ponder...

Trade-in/Trade-up is a vendor policy, not a type of diamond policy. The stone you are trading in, usually, must be sourced by them. Some vendors might take a superb diamond on consignment (e.g., GoodOldGold), but not many do not. You will lose 20-40% of the purchase price when selling on the 'pre-loved' market, less for superb cut than for less well cut, clarity issues or obvious tint. Super-ideal vendors mentioned here generally have pretty generous policies for trade-up. The per carat price is higher for the performance, but also for that flexibility. This is important for some and not others...

JamesAllen. 100% credit towards a new purchase valued at least 2x the original amount. The diamond being upgraded must be in original condition and accompanied by original laboratory grading document. {So, you spend $8000 on diamond 1. You would have to spend a minimum of $16k on diamond #2}

Whiteflash. All in-stock diamonds (A CUT ABOVE, Expert Selection and Premium Select) and regular catalog items are covered by a full 30-day money back guarantee. All in-house (ACA + Expert) diamonds 100% credit toward any upgrade. You can trade your diamond at any time for a diamond of equal or greater value. {So, you spend $8000 on diamond 1. You can spend any amount >$8000 on diamond 2}.

Did you mean having the 1.23 diamond on hold as that is the non True Hearts diamond I'm considering? I actually have both the 1.23 G and 1.28 H True Hearts on hold at the moment. Not much time left to decide.

What would you do?
 
To me, the inclusions will be similar to the eye. I'd personally rather than the AGS000 and size over the GIA and G. But, you have to decide what is better and you feel comfortable with.

So, it sounds like the 1.23 G's inclusion is better for your eyes. If that is the case, stick with that one. They are both good!

Here are a few to ponder that improve the eye-clean and stay in the G/H color, but you give in size for any of these relative to that 1.23 G you like.

Perfectly clean and bright colored G, 1.04 G color VS1, GIAXXX.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...g-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-3204389

$7990, 1.12 H VS1 AGS0000
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...rat-h-color-vs1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-2430902

$8020, 1.11 H VS1 AGS000 (dot the size of a period on the table)
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...rat-h-color-vs1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-2100115
 
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