Advice on 2 diamonds

[robh505]

Ok, so I''m making the PS plunge. Please take it easy on me

Is there a reason I shouldn''t like this option? (note that the GCAL report lists the table at 57%, while the blue nile photo puts it at 56%...HCA score is 1.5)
http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-2-carat-signature-ideal-cut-e-color-vs2-clarity_LD01127956?__fun_frm=i&filter_id=0

In my mind, the perfect diamond would be d-f, no worse than VS2, H&A or a similar super ideal cut, and as close to 2.5 ct without going over (to spare myself the size premium). Unfortunately, this isn''t an easy thing to find from any of the Pricescope vendors.

I know blue nile doesn''t have quite the same resources for a potential buy as some of the other sponsor sights, but this diamond does have the GCAL report which gives a little bit more information than the standard blue nile diamond.

In comparison, Whiteflash has this option:
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-1050540.htm

I have a ton of confidence in that it''s "A-Cut-Above," it''s VS1 (versus VS2 for Blue Nile), but it''s .27ct less, has the same color, and costs over $11,000 more.

Am I missing something else? Thanks everyone for your help.

Rob

 

[Lorelei]

Welcome Rob!

The BN diamond looks like it could be a good choice and it is an AGS0 - I can''t quite read the pavilion angle though on the reports, for some reason they won''t magnify.

 

[robh505]

Can't you also pull the angles off of the GCAL report? Are those as accurate as the AGS numbers?

Edit: Ooops, sorry, you probably mean that you can't get them to magnify on your computer. It will do it on mine, but sometimes it take a few seconds until it opens.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/13/2008 4:13:28 PM
Author: robh505
Can''t you also pull the angles off of the GCAL report? Are those as accurate as the AGS numbers?

Edit: Ooops, sorry, you probably mean that you can''t get them to magnify on your computer. It will do it on mine, but sometimes it take a few seconds until it opens.

Yes that is what I mean, I haven''t had this problem before, but for some reason it is blurred and tiny and even if I wait, it won''t enlarge....

 

[Deelight]

Date: 6/14/2008 4:27:42 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/13/2008 4:13:28 PM

Author: robh505

Can't you also pull the angles off of the GCAL report? Are those as accurate as the AGS numbers?


Edit: Ooops, sorry, you probably mean that you can't get them to magnify on your computer. It will do it on mine, but sometimes it take a few seconds until it opens.

Yes that is what I mean, I haven't had this problem before, but for some reason it is blurred and tiny and even if I wait, it won't enlarge....

Lorelei the numbers are 34.3 and 40.9 I could only get the number off the gcal report

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/14/2008 6:57:07 AM
Author: Deelight

Date: 6/14/2008 4:27:42 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/13/2008 4:13:28 PM

Author: robh505

Can''t you also pull the angles off of the GCAL report? Are those as accurate as the AGS numbers?


Edit: Ooops, sorry, you probably mean that you can''t get them to magnify on your computer. It will do it on mine, but sometimes it take a few seconds until it opens.

Yes that is what I mean, I haven''t had this problem before, but for some reason it is blurred and tiny and even if I wait, it won''t enlarge....

Lorelei the numbers are 34.3 and 40.9 I could only get the number off the gcal report

Oh thanks Dee!! I don''t know what was happening there, but I couldn''t see the numbers at all!

rob, in that case, the numbers suggest this diamond could be a great contender.

 

[robh505]

Thanks for the help. I''ve gone back to Blue Nile to get the specific measurments off of the AGS report as you can''t read them on the online copy.

A couple other things concern me and I don''t know how concerned I should be. First off, the GCAL report has an image that would seem to suggest that the ''arrows'' pattern isn''t well defined. I know this isn''t a "H&A" diamond, but if all the other light reflecting characteristics are in the ideal range, should that concern me? Also, I''m a bit worried about the inclusions. It is VS2, so it should be eye clean....but I can''t be certain and Blue Nile (unlike the forum sponsors) can''t necessarily be trusted to confirm that a diamond is eye clean or that the inclusions are something that I shouldn''t be concerned about. Is my only option to buy the diamond and take it to a local appraiser for comfort?

As hard as I look online, it''s nearly impossible to find a 2.3-2.5 ct, VS1 or VS2, d-f color diamond that is AGS0. Especially at this price, this one looks like a steal. Part of that makes me suspicious as there are no "steals" in the diamond world. Assuming the retailer isn''t ripping you off, you seem to get what you pay for.

 

[mercoledi]

If it''s an AGS VS2, it will be eye-clean, no worries!

 

[robh505]

Thanks. One thing that I can read from the report is that the diamond has an extra facet. Should I be worried?

 

[robh505]

Ok, I promise to stop replying to my self. First off, table and depth are 56.1% and 61.4%, crown and pavilion angles are 34.3 and 40.9. It scores a 1.4 on the HCA which makes me feel pretty good that it should have plenty of sparkle.

Measurements are 8.68-8.73x5.35mm Does this tell anyone anything?

Lastly, I''ve attached a blowup of the ''clarity'' diagram from the AGS report. Should I be worried about the feathers so close to the edge or the extra facet? The cloud right in the middle of the table?

Thanks everyone for your help. This is certainly not an easy process.

 

[agc]

It appears that two of the feathers may run the gamut of the diamond which is a little concerning. When overlapping the the upper plotting diagram with the lower plotting diagram, these two feathers appear to overlay each other which suggests this to me.

 

[robh505]

Should I take that to mean that the structural integrity of the diamond may be weak? Would that effect anything else? I might be willing to take that risk...afterall, it would be covered by insurance, right?

I''ve attached the rest of the AGS report. I''d appreciate any other feedback. Thanks.

Rob

 

[robh505]

And the rest...

 

[John P]

Date: 6/17/2008 9:45:02 PM
Author: agc
It appears that two of the feathers may run the gamut of the diamond which is a little concerning. When overlapping the the upper plotting diagram with the lower plotting diagram, these two feathers appear to overlay each other which suggests this to me.

Feathers in an AGS VS2 shouldn''t be a problem. The diamond underwent more extreme pressure during bruting than it will ever see again - and turned white-hot on the polishing wheel.

The proportions are great. Whether you like perfect symmetrical arrows is up to you, but it may also be that the GCAL image it tilted.

If you want peace of mind you can take some of that money saved and hire an independent appraiser to check it out during the inspection period.

 

[robh505]

Thanks John. The crown view did worry me a little, but the pavilion looks like it''s well cut. Please correct me if I''m wrong, but optical symmetry (perfect hearts & arrows) is not directly related to how well a diamond sparkles, right? If this has great angles & proportions, it could still be an excellent (or ideal) diamond.