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xiaoxinmarryxiaobai

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I guess I should ask advice on these two stones for the final showdown now. Hope somebody can help pull the trigger.
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No.1 stone: F VS2

Report: AGS
. Shape: A Cut Above H&A
. Carat: 1.216
. Depth %: 62
. Table %: 56.7
. Crown Angle: 34.8
. Crown %: 15.2
. Star : 51
. Pavilion Angle: 40.8
. Pavilion %: 43
. Lower Girdle %: 77
. Girdle: Thin to Medium Faceted
. Measurements: 6.86-6.89X4.22
. Light Performance: 0
. Polish: Ideal
. Symmetry: Ideal
. Culet: Pointed
. Fluorescence: Negligible

PS price: $9600

No.2 stone: F VS1
. Report: AGS
. Shape: A Cut Above H&A
. Carat: 1.222
. Depth %: 61
. Table %: 56.7
. Crown Angle: 34.7
. Crown %: 15
. Star : 55
. Pavilion Angle: 40.8
. Pavilion %: 43
. Lower Girdle %: 78
. Girdle: Thin to Medium Faceted
. Measurements: 6.86-6.89X4.22
. Light Performance: 0
. Polish: Ideal
. Symmetry: Ideal
. Culet: Pointed
. Fluorescence: Negligible

PS price: $10700




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The first pic is for the VS2 stone. This one is for the VS1. As you can see,there are a lot more stuff in the VS2. I can''t decide now.Thanks for any advice!

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I don''t think you will see much of a difference between the two IRL. But that being said you seem to really want a "clean" stone. So I would go with the VS1 just for your peace of mind if the $ difference is not an issue.

Good luck
 
Thanks for the advice!You seems to be the only person that cares to give a suggestion in my case.
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People do care.

The weekends tend to be a bit slower around here so answers take more time.

Which stone do you like best??
 
Hi! I care!
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But I was gone out all afternoon!

Clarity is SO personal. We have girls here who adore their SI2''s because they are a great value and are eyeclean. We have those who love K color for the value. We also have some ladies who love their D-F colorless stones. Others enjoy good clarity.

My personal choice is in the middle, because that is what I can best afford. I prefer VS1 or VS2 clarity. My new ring diamond is VS1, but I chose VS2 for my smaller earring diamonds.

It is hard for me to answer which you should choose, because $1100 for the higher clarity seems like a lot to me. I know I would choose VS1 for myself, but the majority here would definitely choose VS2.

I think only you know how much you value clarity and whether your budget can easily afford the extra cost. But both diamonds will be gorgeous, so you cannot go wrong!
 
I would get the VS2 stone and I would spend the difference on the setting!! I think F VS2 is as high as you need to go. In real life you won''t see any inclusions. Your stone will be sparkly, white and very clean!!

Nancy
 
Apart from...which one to pick...what associated question do you bring to the decision.

If it is only: is it eyeclean?

Seems clear, ideally, to treat it in order of operations.

Look at VS2 first.

If you see it''s eye clean...done.

Maybe you risk losing option 2, but it''s quite a savings at risk, and good wisdom here suggests you will find it eye clean.

However...are you asking a different question?

If not...that''s what I say...

Regards,
 
I would go for the cheaper one if it''s eye clean then you have more money for your setting. If it''s not eye clean; go for the VS1.
 
Thanks guys for all the suggestion!I apologize if my previous comment may offend anybody here.I''ve been reading tons of posts here and I know people here are all very helpful.It''s just this whole thing is very exhausting,and I have devoted a lot of times on this hoping to pull the whole proposal thing off before the end of the month.Not mentioning I have interviews coming up next week.So I greatly appreciate people''s opinions here.

I think my may criteria for the diamond is at least F color, at least VS2 clarity,at least 1.2c and the cut as good as possible.These two stones are all great and I think I just need a eyeclean to make my mind peaceful, I totally agree with most people here that paying extra 1G for something you can''t see is a little bit too much but I also don''t want the whole performance affected.From the 40 times magnified pic on WF,I can''t tell any difference,but again they are shot under very bright light.So should I just call the customer service and ask them to eyeball both stones for me?I don''t know if they can do that or not.

Also how are their ring settings?Anybody has experience in that department?

And how is the customer service of WF?I heard they are good but just want to reaffirm myself as this is biggest investment of my life so far and I don''t want to screw it up.Thanks again,guys!
 
Date: 11/11/2007 11:38:42 AM
Author: xiaoxinmarryxiaobai
Thanks guys for all the suggestion!I apologize if my previous comment may offend anybody here. I''ve been reading tons of posts here and I know people here are all very helpful. It''s just this whole thing is very exhausting, and I have devoted a lot of times on this hoping to pull the whole proposal thing off before the end of the month. Not mentioning I have interviews coming up next week. So I greatly appreciate people''s opinions here.

I think my may criteria for the diamond is at least F color, at least VS2 clarity,at least 1.2c and the cut as good as possible.These two stones are all great and I think I just need a eyeclean to make my mind peaceful, I totally agree with most people here that paying extra 1G for something you can''t see is a little bit too much but I also don''t want the whole performance affected.From the 40 times magnified pic on WF,I can''t tell any difference,but again they are shot under very bright light.So should I just call the customer service and ask them to eyeball both stones for me?I don''t know if they can do that or not.

Also how are their ring settings?Anybody has experience in that department?

And how is the customer service of WF?I heard they are good but just want to reaffirm myself as this is biggest investment of my life so far and I don''t want to screw it up.Thanks again,guys!
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WF settings are great. Alot of us on here have them and are very happy.


As far as the diamonds go they are both going to be amazing stones. WF will tell you if they are eye clean or not which I believe they both will be. Their definition of eye clean can be found on their web page. Then you have to decide which is "mind clean" and if they VS1 is worth the extra 1K.


WF customer service is second to none. They really care about their customers and making them happy. They will do everything in their power to make feel comfortable about this major purchase. I have had quite a few purchases from them and they have always been so awesome to deal with.

Lastly don''t forget you must post pics of the finished ring!
 
Personally, I would chose VS2 over the VS1. The difference, I believe would be so minimal.

For your own peace of mind, call WF. They would be happy to answer your questions regarding the clarity to your 2 stones. The inclusions in a VS would definately not hinder the performance of the stone at that calibre.

Good Luck!
 
for me personally the diff there would not be worth $1k. you should not see anything in that VS2 or that VS1. have you asked WF about if the VS2 is eye-clean? i have had an SI2 that had stuff all over the plot, it was quite visually scary, but in person it was totally eye clean. so the plots don''t really give that accurate of a picture many times. if all the inclusions are white and there are literally 3 tiny pinpoints, you will never see them unless you loupe the stone and maybe not even then if you don''t know what you are looking for. i''d confirm with WF on the eye-clean thing for both and let that drive your decision, but personally i''d go VS2 in this case.
 
We purchased my 1.234 ct GVS2 ACA from WF. This diamond a clean stone. Know what eyeclean means to you and discuss it with WF. Read their definition of eyeclean, as well. They will be honest with you about the diamonds that interest you. They are great to work with and very patient
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Thanks a lot for any these suggestions!I surely appreciate it.I will call them up tommorrow check it.

One last stupid question: is there still some room to bargain from the PS price?I doubt it but it doesn''t hurt to ask.Thanks again!
 
Hi,

I have three stones from WF and two are ACA F SI1s and are AMAZINGLY beautiful and entirely eye clean. They''re set as earrings. My third stone is an E VS2 and it''s as immaculate as well and is a pendant! I love it.

For a ring, I would go as high of clarity (up to an VS1) IF I could afford it because I like looking at my ring stones from the side and would want that view to be as clean as possible. The reason I picked a VS2 for a pendant (which most would say is a waste of money) is because I wanted a colorless stone and the only one I found w/in my budget was a VS2 and I knew that would be the last diamond I''d be buying for a few years, so going for "the best" I could get was a desire of mine.

If the difference between the two stones is a significant amount of money for you, why not look around a bit more?
 
No.1

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No.2

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Well, what can any of us say other than both diamonds look IMPECCABLE!
 
I think either will be stunning, so I personally would not pay the extra $1,100 to go from VS2 to VS1. Use the extra money for the setting or your wedding. What kind of setting are you considering?
 
The setting is a tricky part,all I know about her opinion comes from some comments she gave me about her friend''s e-ring,which is "too much".So I think I would go for something that can really brings up the features of the stone while remains relatively simple.I am reading posts about WF''s tiffany settings.Another big thing here is I don''t know her finger size.I have been probing around but dare not to probe too hard.I don''t know how much hussle it would be if I order the setting on WF and then have to send it back to resize.
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Regarding your question about diamond prices, they do not bargain. The prices listed are the actual prices.

As far as the setting goes, it is a problem if you don''t know her ring size. It would be a big hassle to send the ring back to WF as far as I am concerned. And I''d really want the ring ordered in the right size in the first place. Is there no one you can ask her ring size?
 
Not really,she doesn''t wear a ring on that finger.She has couple of small diamond rings from her dad that she wears on her index finger.I played around with it on her ring finger when she is asleep and tried it on my finger.I then went to jewlrey stores to try the size thing.I think she has a size 3,3.5 and 4 but stop right there.And also this depends on how much room you want when you have the ring on.Huge headache for me!
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If you are still deciding then here's another vote for the VS1. To me the size difference is negligible, and the price difference is a small portion of the total price. She will be wearing that ring for a long time and $1000 wouldn't be a big deal down the road. Assuming that both are eyeclean, I would still prefer a higher clarity even if it's just in my mind. Your girlfriend/fiance will ask about the specs, and I think she'll be happier w/ the higher clarity ring.
 
Assuming it''s eye clean, I''d go with the VS2! The VS1 isn''t worth an extra $1K. I''d spend that money on the setting.
 
If clarity is important due to cultural reasons, get the VS1. The extra 1K is worth every penny to please Chinese mothers
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The WF classic tiffany style knife edge is a beauty.
 
Date: 11/12/2007 8:12:17 PM
Author: singular
If clarity is important due to cultural reasons, get the VS1. The extra 1K is worth every penny to please Chinese mothers
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The WF classic tiffany style knife edge is a beauty.
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Heheheheh you took the words right out of my mouth! The classic Tiffany style setting really isn''t that expensive so you can put all the money to a better stone!
 
Hmm,this is interesting,now the group on VS1 and VS2 are almost even.

Plus,how did you know my gf is Chinese?Just curious.
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Date: 11/10/2007 6:41:20 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006

Clarity is SO personal. We have girls here who adore their SI2''s because they are a great value and are eyeclean. We have those who love K color for the value. We also have some ladies who love their D-F colorless stones. Others enjoy good clarity.

My personal choice is in the middle, because that is what I can best afford. I prefer VS1 or VS2 clarity. My new ring diamond is VS1, but I chose VS2 for my smaller earring diamonds.

It is hard for me to answer which you should choose, because $1100 for the higher clarity seems like a lot to me. I know I would choose VS1 for myself, but the majority here would definitely choose VS2.

I think only you know how much you value clarity and whether your budget can easily afford the extra cost. But both diamonds will be gorgeous, so you cannot go wrong!
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Completely agree with DS here....she''s right on the money again!

In this case, both are extremely likely to be eyeclean (no visual difference). If so, then it really comes down to you and what YOU value and feel comfortable with. If you''re only worried about what you can see with your eye, then go with the VS2. If you just have this thing about knowing it''s uber-clean in your MIND and you feel that''s worth the extra $$, then go VS1.

As DS said, you really can''t go wrong here.
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Date: 11/13/2007 11:42:01 AM
Author: xiaoxinmarryxiaobai
Hmm,this is interesting,now the group on VS1 and VS2 are almost even.

Plus,how did you know my gf is Chinese?Just curious.
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If this is true. I vote VS1 as well. For me personally? I wouldn''t care if it was an I1 if it was eyeclean. But I understand the cultural thing, and with all the time and effort you are expending, you will be heartbroken if your diamond is deemed inferior because of the clarity (regardless of whether or not you can see it).

Personally? I''d get the WF Harmony setting 3/4 eternity with an integrated head.
 
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