ACA I SI2: Did I really just find an eye-clean deal?

[mandielee]

I''ve reserved it and am waiting for confirmation from Lesley (who so far has shown the patience of a saint) that it is indeed eye-clean, but I wouldn''t mind the PS community taking a quick look:

https://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds/Diamond_Details.aspx?idNo=636624#

The inclusions are two feathers that look to be just outside the table and far enough from the girdle to avoid causing mischief. From the photos and IS images, it doesn''t look like they''ll reflect back into the table in a big way.

Did I just manage to get an awesomely-cut 1ct I stone that looks for all the world like it''s eye-clean, and for only $4500 (after our PS discount)?

 

[rogeshoe57]

Wow looks like an awesome diamond! I think it is a great find! I would probably ask the people at WF, what the feather affects. Since it is a large crack in the diamond. It probably won't do anything and is contained. I am a newbie, but that would be my question if I were purchasing this stone.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/12/2008 2:52:52 AM
Author:mandielee
I''ve reserved it and am waiting for confirmation from Lesley (who so far has shown the patience of a saint) that it is indeed eye-clean, but I wouldn''t mind the PS community taking a quick look:

https://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds/Diamond_Details.aspx?idNo=636624#

The inclusions are two feathers that look to be just outside the table and far enough from the girdle to avoid causing mischief. From the photos and IS images, it doesn''t look like they''ll reflect back into the table in a big way.

Did I just manage to get an awesomely-cut 1ct I stone that looks for all the world like it''s eye-clean, and for only $4500 (after our PS discount)?

Lesley is fabulous!! And it looks like you may have found a great SI2, Miss Lesley won''t steer you wrong!

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 4/12/2008 3:22:47 AM
Author: rogeshoe57
Wow looks like an awesome diamond! I think it is a great find! I would probably ask the people at WF, what the feather affects. Since it is a large crack in the diamond. It probably won''t do anything and is contained. I am a newbie, but that would be my question if I were purchasing this stone.

"Since it is a large crack in the diamond."


Roge, I''m a bit confused what you mean by this comment? Are you saying that you think the feather IS a large crack?

 

[butterfly 17]

Date: 4/12/2008 7:07:56 AM
Author: arjunajane



Roge, I''m a bit confused what you mean by this comment? Are you saying that you think the feather IS a large crack?

Sorry, I just wanted to answer your question since I have been researching clarity inclusions and I was/am considering an SI2 stone myself.

From what I have read, a feather is a nice word for a crack. IF the feather is on the edge/girdle, there is more of a durability issue than if it is contained within the stone. This diamond''s feathers look like they are contained and since they are located away from the table, they also look like they won''t be noticeable without a loupe.

But remember, this is am SI2, so it would have to be at least a little bit large of a feather in order for it to get an SI2 clarity rating. Especially since the only thing that is making it an SI2 are the feathers, according to the plot. They would have to be somewhat prominent I would think. If the feather was not large, it wouldn''t be an SI2, it would be a VS2. Plus it is off to the side, not underneath the table. That is another thing that would make you think it was a fairly larger feather (at least for the diamond''s size).

I always thought that clarity is based on size (how big is the inclusion based on size of diamond), location ( lower clarity grade if it was directly within the table as opposed to closer to the girdle) and number of inclusions (the more the inclusions the lower the grade).

For example, a stone that has a tiny crystal under the table would probably get a VS2 grading, but if it was on the pavillion side or on close to the girdle, it would get a VS1 grading.

Anyway, I think this is a great SI2 stone!

 

[rogeshoe57]

Arjuna... butterly pretty much summed it up... I think its a good question to ask before you buy the diamond... but wonderful find!

 

[Liberty Diamonds]

Awesome looking diamond, hopefully the paper does it justice. The clarity scale is based upon durablity, and feathers are the most common inclusion you find in diamonds. If it is an SI2 with only a feather inclusion assume that it willl be prominent. Though it will most likely only be visible from the side, so make sure the jeweler who sets it can place the visible part facing the shank. This will also prevent any blows from the side that can run a feather.

 

[mandielee]

Date: 4/12/2008 5:19:47 PM
Author: Liberty Diamonds
Awesome looking diamond, hopefully the paper does it justice. The clarity scale is based upon durablity, and feathers are the most common inclusion you find in diamonds. If it is an SI2 with only a feather inclusion assume that it willl be prominent. Though it will most likely only be visible from the side, so make sure the jeweler who sets it can place the visible part facing the shank. This will also prevent any blows from the side that can run a feather.

Oh, thanks for pointing this out - I''ll make sure to add it to the instructions. I''m getting a setting style where the shank is tapered up towards the head, so it is especially useful advice.

I figure this diamond would most certainly have been I1 had either of those feathers wound up under the table...

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 4/12/2008 9:14:15 AM
Author: butterfly 17

Date: 4/12/2008 7:07:56 AM
Author: arjunajane



Roge, I''m a bit confused what you mean by this comment? Are you saying that you think the feather IS a large crack?

Sorry, I just wanted to answer your question since I have been researching clarity inclusions and I was/am considering an SI2 stone myself.

From what I have read, a feather is a nice word for a crack. IF the feather is on the edge/girdle, there is more of a durability issue than if it is contained within the stone. This diamond''s feathers look like they are contained and since they are located away from the table, they also look like they won''t be noticeable without a loupe.

But remember, this is am SI2, so it would have to be at least a little bit large of a feather in order for it to get an SI2 clarity rating. Especially since the only thing that is making it an SI2 are the feathers, according to the plot. They would have to be somewhat prominent I would think. If the feather was not large, it wouldn''t be an SI2, it would be a VS2. Plus it is off to the side, not underneath the table. That is another thing that would make you think it was a fairly larger feather (at least for the diamond''s size).

I always thought that clarity is based on size (how big is the inclusion based on size of diamond), location ( lower clarity grade if it was directly within the table as opposed to closer to the girdle) and number of inclusions (the more the inclusions the lower the grade).

For example, a stone that has a tiny crystal under the table would probably get a VS2 grading, but if it was on the pavillion side or on close to the girdle, it would get a VS1 grading.

Anyway, I think this is a great SI2 stone!

Hi butterfly, thankyou for the great explanation!
I probably didn''t phrase my question properly, in that I realise feathers are indeed cracks, but wasn''t sure if what Roge meant was that this is a large/bad one as I wasn''t able to tell that myself and was wondering how to deduce this.
But your explanation has helped me to understand so thankyou!