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Hi guys,

I have been lurking around here for several weeks now and have been reading through many of the very helpful posts. This is a great site. I have also gone through the diamond tutorial several times (at least the basic 4C''s). Still trying to completely understand "Cut"
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. Anywhoo, i think i am ready to pull the trigger. I have been eyeballing this for several days now. What do you all think? Anything i should be concern about? For me the 2 concerns are the color and fluorescence. However my GF think that blue diamonds are cool. So i don''t think it''s too big of a deal. Just hope it''s not too strong as to cause it to look "oily or cloudy". Is this a good price? Any comments is appreciated.

http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-ideal-cut-g-color-vvs2-clarity_LD01409949?__fun_frm=i&filter_id=0

Thanks in advanced.

BTW, HCA is 1.2.
 
Looks like a very good stone. Good catch. Nothing to worry about for the color and fluor. The color is actually quite high for most of us PSers, is the highest grade in the almost colorless range. I think most of us who wants to max our stone size will sacrifice that and clarity to the H-I range and VS2-SI1 range. So nothing to worry about there. Fluor might be a concern if it causes haziness but with BN''s 30 days return policy you have a lot of time to decide if it is giving you a hazy stone. Most likely not unless it is very strong blue and then it is still unlikely.

So in conclusion, all good.
 
Thanks Stone Cold! Any other advice from other experts? I am have been reading about H&A and is leaning toward it a little? Is this worth it? My budget is about around $10000.
 
What size are you looking at for $10000?

H&A I think is worth it for the cool factor, but that is only personal preference. GIA did a study I think and didn''t find a distinct preference for it in a blind test.
 
The numbers on the stone look good. G color is great, and VVS is higher than necessary. However, you are getting a low price probably because of the strong florescence. You probably should take the diamond to an independent appraiser and have them assess whether there are any negative effects from the floro. But do not take it to one who sells diamonds!!!
 
Mungbean, I noticed something on the BN page for that stone:


1.31-Carat Round Diamond
This Ideal-cut, G-color, and VVS2-clarity diamond comes accompanied by a diamond grading report from the GIA.
View Certificate:
GIA Report
GIA
Price: $9,903

This diamond is not available for purchase.


I hope it was you "pulling the trigger" that caused it to say that when I looked.
 
Man! that was fast. Was going to give it another few days before pulling the trigger. Guess someone pull the trigger before me. Back to square one...Cold stone, i am looking for something 1.30 or larger. Based on some of the advice, it seems like i can probably sacrifice clarity for a little larger size. My budget is around $10000.
 
Mungbean, it is best to reserve stones you may be serious about before posting on here about them.
For every poster, there are hundreds more lurkers and this has happened before.
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Good luck on your search!
 
Mungbean, give me an estimate of the time you will stay online till and the next time you will come online again, in EST. I will post some suggestions near those time.
 
Date: 9/21/2008 7:56:54 PM
Author: mungbean
Thanks Stone Cold! Any other advice from other experts? I am have been reading about H&A and is leaning toward it a little? Is this worth it? My budget is about around $10000.
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I would look at some vendors who have in house h&a diamonds with all the images and analysis done on them, try -

www.winkjones.com

www.whiteflash.com

www.goodoldgold.com
 
Thanks Cold Stone. I usually go online once in the afternoon during lunch and one more time at night around 10pm PST so 1am EST. I found another diamond and is considering it. I am still finding out how to reserve it first before posting it here :). Anyhow, the only concern i have on this new one is that GIA gave it a cut of only "Good". However based on HCA, it''s about 2.2. So i am not sure what''s more important, HCA value or GIA grade. Thanks again Cold Stone for being active about helping me.

As far as what my priorities are:

Carat: >= 1.3
Cut: Very Good -Excellent
Fluorescence: Medium Blue or Strong Blue.
Clarity: >= VS2
Color: >=H
My budget is =<$10500
 
No problem. I think if you call up BN and tell them you are considering that stone, they will put it on hold for you. I would trust HCA more than GIA but there are a few factors to conside for the HCA score too.

Can you post the input you used for the HCA for the new stone? Also the girdle size.
 
Date: 9/23/2008 3:16:09 PM
Author: mungbean
Thanks Cold Stone. I usually go online once in the afternoon during lunch and one more time at night around 10pm PST so 1am EST. I found another diamond and is considering it. I am still finding out how to reserve it first before posting it here :). Anyhow, the only concern i have on this new one is that GIA gave it a cut of only ''Good''. However based on HCA, it''s about 2.2. So i am not sure what''s more important, HCA value or GIA grade. Thanks again Cold Stone for being active about helping me.

As far as what my priorities are:

Carat: >= 1.3
Cut: Very Good -Excellent
Fluorescence: Medium Blue or Strong Blue.
Clarity: >= VS2
Color: >=H
My budget is =<$10500
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Hi Mungbean,

How about this one? It''s right in your budget, and looks like a great stone:
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4885/
 
Date: 9/23/2008 3:16:09 PM
Author: mungbean
Thanks Cold Stone. I usually go online once in the afternoon during lunch and one more time at night around 10pm PST so 1am EST. I found another diamond and is considering it. I am still finding out how to reserve it first before posting it here :). Anyhow, the only concern i have on this new one is that GIA gave it a cut of only ''Good''. However based on HCA, it''s about 2.2. So i am not sure what''s more important, HCA value or GIA grade. Thanks again Cold Stone for being active about helping me.

As far as what my priorities are:

Carat: >= 1.3
Cut: Very Good -Excellent
Fluorescence: Medium Blue or Strong Blue.
Clarity: >= VS2
Color: >=H
My budget is =<$10500
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Can you post all the proportions?
 
Depth: 59.5
Table: 60
Crown: 30
Pavilion: 40.2
Culet: 0

Girdle: Medium.

SYC,

That seems like a nice diamond. However i am hoping to get at least medium fluorescence. My GF specifically asked for blue fluor.
 
Correction Crown: 33
 
Date: 9/23/2008 3:41:06 PM
Author: mungbean
Correction Crown: 33
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Thanks! It is a shallower combo which may not be best suited for a ring stone, these types of diamonds are often best in pendants as they can be prone to obstruction issues, this basically means they can look dark in some viewing conditions. This page gives more info - http://diamonds.pricescope.com/ideal.asp I would look for a diamond using these proportions as a guide to find a well cut diamond.

depth - 60 - 62% - although my personal preference is to allow up to 62.4%
table - 54- 57%
crown angle - 34- 35 degrees
pavilion angle - 40.6- 41 degrees
girdle - avoid extremes, look for thin to slightly thick, thin to medium etc
polish and symmetry - very good and above
note - with crown and pavilion angles at the shallower ends ( CA 34- PA 40.6) and steeper ( CA 35- PA 41) check to make sure these angles complement in that particular diamond - eyeballs, Idealscope, trusted vendor input - check as appropriate!

That is a lovely stone that SYC posted, I would take a look at that one.
 
Agree with Lorelei, the stone posted by SYC is a beauty. Go and grab it. :)

Good Luck.
 
http://www.whiteflash.com/round/Round-cut-diamond-1394599.htm#

This is the only one that I found on WF, an MB stone of 1.37c G VS2. Other data you would have to give them a call.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4847/

Found this GOG stone, 1.31c I SI1 Stone with MB. Looks quite good to me, almost eye-clean, only 1 color grade below your specification but is much cheaper. Give it a try. :)

Good Luck.
 
Ok, so i finally found the diamond with White Flash help. Stone Cold and everybody thanks for all your suggestions. I am basically at the "11 hour" now.

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-1466998.htm

What do you guys think? Any red flags? It''s reserved and waiting for my answer tomorrow.

Also what setting do you guys think i should put it on?
 
Well, there is no fluor, but WF ACAs are beautiful stones. I like the plumper arrows on this one (due to the LGF of 76%) Should get lots of nice flashes of light.

The setting depends on what your GF would like. Personally, I''m a solitaire fan, but it is really up to her.
 
Yep. Realize that she really wants a true blue diamond. Which i can''t afford. Luckily she was only kidding. Anyhow what do you think of the price? Fair?
 
WF prices are always fair. :) No problem with that stone that I can see.

With Blue Fluor, the stone would be a little blue in sunlight and in the presence of UV source... Maybe she just never see it before. Bet if she has, she would want it though since she likes blue diamond... :P
 
Date: 10/6/2008 9:05:04 PM
Author: mungbean
Ok, so i finally found the diamond with White Flash help. Stone Cold and everybody thanks for all your suggestions. I am basically at the ''11 hour'' now.

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-1466998.htm

What do you guys think? Any red flags? It''s reserved and waiting for my answer tomorrow.

Also what setting do you guys think i should put it on?
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Gorgeous diamond, nice choice!
 
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