About to buy - last second thoughts/advice?

[jmenzies]

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/2.146-h-si1-round-diamond-ags-104063703004#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/4/

any thoughts - I have it reserved, will be set in a classic tiffany setting. It is eye clean (so they say). Aim to purchase today and after so much looking and research on this fantastic website and different options I am nervous to finally hit the pay button and wire them the money....

 

[marymm]

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/2.146-h-si1-round-diamond-ags-104063703004#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/4/

any thoughts - I have it reserved, will be set in a classic tiffany setting. It is eye clean (so they say). Aim to purchase today and after so much looking and research on this fantastic website and different options I am nervous to finally hit the pay button and wire them the money....

The images look great - I do see some inclusions on the close-up video however and per the AGL certificate inclusion plot, there are numerous inclusions on this stone... if it were me, I'd buy it loose and have it shipped to me first so I can confirm it is eye-clean to my satisfaction.

 

[two_little_birds]

It looks beautiful, a great choice!

 

[jmenzies]

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/2.146-h-si1-round-diamond-ags-104063703004#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/4/

any thoughts - I have it reserved, will be set in a classic tiffany setting. It is eye clean (so they say). Aim to purchase today and after so much looking and research on this fantastic website and different options I am nervous to finally hit the pay button and wire them the money....

The images look great - I do see some inclusions on the close-up video however and per the AGL certificate inclusion plot, there are numerous inclusions on this stone... if it were me, I'd buy it loose and have it shipped to me first so I can confirm it is eye-clean to my satisfaction.

Thanks. Yeah I saw that and checked it with them and they said they are confident it is eye clean... from what I have read on here BG are quite good with their advice (i.e. if it wasn't eye clean they wouldn't mis-sell)...

Being in the UK it is very difficult to get the loose stone shipped to me first to have it set later...

 

[mrs-b]

Jmenzies -

Have you seen this stone?

http://www.goodoldgold.com/ecommerce/2-05ct-h-si1-superior-round-hearts-and-arrows-diamond.html

Its wire price is $24,246 - and it has the same specs as yours (H SI1) and, altho it's 9pts lighter in ctw, it's the same face up dimensions as yours.

I've watched this stone for a while, then saw it go on sale a week or two ago. Given that it's a Good Old Gold cut stone, with their upgrade policy (which I think is somewhat better than BGD's as you're not restricted as much on what you can upgrade to), and given that it has a lifetime guarantee, I really don't see any drawbacks. I'd call GOG and ask them if they feel it's eye clean and, if so, I'd be pulling the trigger on that baby in a heartbeat.

Just to add - I have sig cuts from both BGD and GOG, and find them to be equal in quality.

ETA Both companies have killer customer service, so I think, at that point, it's all about the price.

 

[RockyRacoon]

The BG stone you had selected looks very good.

Another option - you could purchase this stone for about $1k more, and gain a noticeable size (diameter) increase:

2.294ct, H, SI1
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3253511.htm

 

[jmenzies]

Thanks so much guys.

On the GOS one posted above. I had seen that. I checked and it is not eye clean. Very impressed with their honesty.

BG are pulling the diamond out the safe again and checking it is completely eye clean.

The BG stone with tiffany setting is costing $27k, which I told them was my absolute max... so the whiteflash one which I did see wouldn't be feasible... but lovely stone...

 

[mrs-b]

Thanks so much guys.

On the GOS one posted above. I had seen that. I checked and it is not eye clean. Very impressed with their honesty.

BG are pulling the diamond out the safe again and checking it is completely eye clean.

The BG stone with tiffany setting is costing $27k, which I told them was my absolute max... so the whiteflash one which I did see wouldn't be feasible... but lovely stone...

Really? Wow! I'm very surprised by that. I've actually held that diamond in my hand and considered buying it (but ultimately went with the one in my avatar for spread reasons) - and I thought it was one of the most beautiful stones I've ever seen. It's an SI1, granted, but I certainly couldn't see any blemishes or anything distracting with my naked eye. Given that you're an international customer I think you have to be extra sure, but I'm still very surprised by the 'it's not eye clean' assessment - because it certainly was to me, and I'd describe myself as having very good close up eye sight and being neither more nor less picky than the average buyer.

 

[RockyRacoon]

The BG stone with tiffany setting is costing $27k, which I told them was my absolute max... so the whiteflash one which I did see wouldn't be feasible... but lovely stone...

It might be worth reaching out to Whiteflash to see what they can do for you. Mention you're from Pricescope.

This stone is also available from Whiteflash, about the same (diameter) size, with better clarity, and would probably be at the price point you're looking at (even with the Tiffany setting) if you speak with someone over there:

2.014ct, H, VS2
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3265463.htm


Might as well explore all of your options before a purchase of this magnitude!

 

[jmenzies]

Thanks so much guys.

On the GOS one posted above. I had seen that. I checked and it is not eye clean. Very impressed with their honesty.

BG are pulling the diamond out the safe again and checking it is completely eye clean.

The BG stone with tiffany setting is costing $27k, which I told them was my absolute max... so the whiteflash one which I did see wouldn't be feasible... but lovely stone...

Really? Wow! I'm very surprised by that. I've actually held that diamond in my hand and considered buying it (but ultimately went with the one in my avatar for spread reasons) - and I thought it was one of the most beautiful stones I've ever seen. It's an SI1, granted, but I certainly couldn't see any blemishes or anything distracting with my naked eye. Given that you're an international customer I think you have to be extra sure, but I'm still very surprised by the 'it's not eye clean' assessment - because it certainly was to me, and I'd describe myself as having very good close up eye sight and being neither more nor less picky than the average buyer.

They just said if you look at the right angle from three or four inches it is visible. I probably wouldn't notice it but as you say being an international customer it is in no-ones interest for it to be returned...

 

[jmenzies]

The BG stone with tiffany setting is costing $27k, which I told them was my absolute max... so the whiteflash one which I did see wouldn't be feasible... but lovely stone...

It might be worth reaching out to Whiteflash to see what they can do for you. Mention you're from Pricescope.

This stone is also available from Whiteflash, about the same (diameter) size, with better clarity, and would probably be at the price point you're looking at (even with the Tiffany setting) if you speak with someone over there:

2.014ct, H, VS2
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3265463.htm


Might as well explore all of your options before a purchase of this magnitude!

Rockracoon what have you done... so WF will do the stone above in a tiffany setting for just a tad less than BG on the stone I posted.

BG confirmed the stone I posted was completely eye clean. They have been amazingly helpful too - so i feel guilty about switching...

I have just under one hour to decide so I can make the wire today (otherwise I am cutting it fine on getting it in time)... I love the tapered BG tiffany setting and have head a lot of good things about that setting. Are the WF tiffany settings as good? Is it worth switching?

 

[mrs-b]

Thanks so much guys.

On the GOS one posted above. I had seen that. I checked and it is not eye clean. Very impressed with their honesty.

BG are pulling the diamond out the safe again and checking it is completely eye clean.

The BG stone with tiffany setting is costing $27k, which I told them was my absolute max... so the whiteflash one which I did see wouldn't be feasible... but lovely stone...

Really? Wow! I'm very surprised by that. I've actually held that diamond in my hand and considered buying it (but ultimately went with the one in my avatar for spread reasons) - and I thought it was one of the most beautiful stones I've ever seen. It's an SI1, granted, but I certainly couldn't see any blemishes or anything distracting with my naked eye. Given that you're an international customer I think you have to be extra sure, but I'm still very surprised by the 'it's not eye clean' assessment - because it certainly was to me, and I'd describe myself as having very good close up eye sight and being neither more nor less picky than the average buyer.

They just said if you look at the right angle from three or four inches it is visible. I probably wouldn't notice it but as you say being an international customer it is in no-ones interest for it to be returned...

Got it. But just for your own info - here's a thread that looks at the definition of 'eye clean'.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/clarity-eye-clean-definition-interpretation-and-taste.30483/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/clarity-eye-clean-definition-interpretation-and-taste.30483/[/URL]

So, 8 - 10 inches (AGS says 9.8" - or the distance than an object can be viewed without eye strain) in normal light by someone with 20/20 vision.

jmenzies - if your definition is stricter than that (as per the Good Old Gold review of the 2.05ct stone) you might want to go over this with any company that tells you a stone is eye clean, because they would be using a (roughly) 10" distance, not a '3-4" and straining' definition.

Anyway, to me, the stone was definitely eye clean when seen under normal viewing conditions. But I'm guessing you might want to lift your clarity parameters to the VS category if you want something eye clean under very close-up inspection.

Wishing you well in your search and I hope you find something you love!

ETA My setting in my avatar is the BGD tapered tiffany setting and I love it!

 

[RockyRacoon]

The BG stone with tiffany setting is costing $27k, which I told them was my absolute max... so the whiteflash one which I did see wouldn't be feasible... but lovely stone...

It might be worth reaching out to Whiteflash to see what they can do for you. Mention you're from Pricescope.

This stone is also available from Whiteflash, about the same (diameter) size, with better clarity, and would probably be at the price point you're looking at (even with the Tiffany setting) if you speak with someone over there:

2.014ct, H, VS2
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3265463.htm


Might as well explore all of your options before a purchase of this magnitude!

Rockracoon what have you done... so WF will do the stone above in a tiffany setting for just a tad less than BG on the stone I posted.

BG confirmed the stone I posted was completely eye clean. They have been amazingly helpful too - so i feel guilty about switching...

I have just under one hour to decide so I can make the wire today (otherwise I am cutting it fine on getting it in time)... I love the tapered BG tiffany setting and have head a lot of good things about that setting. Are the WF tiffany settings as good? Is it worth switching?

If I was able to get a VS2 for the same price as an SI1, I wouldn't be able to turn it down. Particularly if I was in a situation where I wouldn't be able to see the stone prior to it being set (which, I believe, is your scenario), the peace of mind from having a VS2 stone would be worth it.

I've worked with Whiteflash before and they've been extremely responsive and helpful, in my experience.

 

[jmenzies]

So, thanks to everyone and in particular RockyRacoon, I switched at the last second to the Whiteflash stone. They did me an amazing deal which meant the ACA 2.014 H VS2 came in a lot cheaper than the BGS 2.1 H SI1 from Brian Gavin, and Brian Gavin had already knocked the diamond down (about 5% off the wire price) and thrown in the setting for free... so I am very happy.

This site has been amazing in helping me over the last couple of months and I have learnt a lot. I have gone from visiting the London bond street stores and nearly buying a not that great cut 1.5 Cartier H VS2 for £25,000 to buying a 2 ACA Whiteflash H VS2 for £18,000.

I will post pictures once I get the ring towards the end of Feb!

 

[sarahb]

Although I've not purchased anything for BG, I can reassure you with your WF purchase. Everything with this company/WF has been spot on--good luck & congratulations!

 

[RockyRacoon]

So, thanks to everyone and in particular RockyRacoon, I switched at the last second to the Whiteflash stone.

I will post pictures once I get the ring towards the end of Feb!

Glad to hear it worked out for you!

Sounds like you got a great deal on a top-notch stone. Well done!