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A Mystery solved.... those little blue melee.....

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91D37DE4-C934-4FB0-AFBD-07D5500CBFA7.jpeg Amongst my loose gem haul was a pile of blue melee. Various shades of violet blue. I cheated (these are too tiny for doing a SG reading or even a dichoscope) with a Presidum.
To be honest, such a pretty blue I assumed glass, no, then sapphire, no again. Testing on the Presidum I’m registering in the upper Tourmaline range. Ok, tourmaline.
Then later I noticed a bizarre thing, in the container, when on their side they seem to have a reddish tint. Weird, so I washed them thinking maybe the rusty tins they were stored in had put some sort of rust on them. No change.
Then I noticed another thing, even though face up they are the nice bright blue, they also go a deeper purplish colour at some angles.
Then the light bulb moment!
Upper range tourmaline on a Presidum is also Tanzanite.
Tanzanite display pleochroism, three colours depending on crystal orientation - bright blue, darker purple blue and burgundy.
So these are Tanzanite melee.
Mystery solved.
 
Beautiful color, I love the reds and purples showing on the stones in the container.
 
What a lovely find!
 
Ooh...excellent! Mystery finally solved. :geek2:
 
Beautiful shade of tanzanite, too, congratulations!
 
Your lot of adventure just keeps on giving!
Love that color also!
 
Thanks everyone. I was a bit embarrassed that I didn’t twig earlier. Mind you I’ve never owned any Tanzanite. They truly are a fabulous neon colour. I also have similiar size hot pink tourmaline so I’m tempted to do a “tutti fruitti” band ring alternating bright blue and hot pink !
 
Hi Bron,
i hope i am not too negative, but normally small tanzanites do not have this intense color. So this color i never saw in small melee size tanzanites. I would suspect something else or probably coated/infused material...
Sorry for bothering
 
Hi Bron,
i hope i am not too negative, but normally small tanzanites do not have this intense color. So this color i never saw in small melee size tanzanites. I would suspect something else or probably coated/infused material...
Sorry for bothering
Well I didn’t think of that. A lot of trouble for such wee little things. They are old stock, at least 20 years old, so I don’t know what treatments might have been around back then? They aren’t coated or anything, I broke one apart to check and so ?
Is there any other test I can do ? I presume they are heated but I checked and apparently they can't make synthetic Tanzanite - so I figured given their 3 colour spectrum, Tanzanite.
 
You have a refractometer? this would be of great help to narrow down the possibilities.
Do you have a chelsea filter?
The pleochroism is interesting as it rules out a few things.
Normally if a tanzanite is heated he wont show 3 colors anymore in my knowledge. But this intense color makes me suspicious.
https://www.gia.edu/gems-gemology/summer-2008-coated-tanzanite-mcclure
I have a different article in mind, i cant find at the moment...
 
You have a refractometer? this would be of great help to narrow down the possibilities.
Do you have a chelsea filter?
The pleochroism is interesting as it rules out a few things.
Normally if a tanzanite is heated he wont show 3 colors anymore in my knowledge. But this intense color makes me suspicious.
https://www.gia.edu/gems-gemology/summer-2008-coated-tanzanite-mcclure
I have a different article in mind, i cant find at the moment...
Yes, I did do some research. I couldn’t find much on synthethic tanzanite, there are some “look alikes” but they seem to be synthethic spinel or corundum - just the blue purple colour.
Apparently they can’t be colour diffused (like rubies or sapphires) because the replacement atom is 30 times too big to take up a spot in the lattice! The only treatments noted are dyeing / a surface coating.
They already had a good wash because I originally thought the reddish tint on some of them (not actually all of them btw) was rust or something. And I did actually break one up to check under the microscope if it was a coating. No. I also checked UV, no response, so that’s often a give away for the synthetic tanzanite replicas.
Unfortunately I don’t have a refractometer or Chelsea filter as yet - on order - (only a microscope, UV light, spectrometer and dichroscope ) and they are way too small for doing a SG reading. Though I might buy an electronic one if I can be sure they give an accurate and reliable result.
The Presidium Gem tester (I know not a proper gemmological tool!) definitely gives them a thermal reading in the tanzanite range. This is well above “glass” ie CZ and well below Spinel or Corrundum so I sort of ran out of other gem options.
They are definitely old inventory, the jeweller guy died in the late 1990s and these (and a pile of other gems) were found hidden in an cardboard box the bottom of an old wardrobe.
So the mystery maybe remains and deepens......
 
FD11356B-0F9F-4604-9153-7F85AAF12616.jpeg 3791E65A-200A-4A57-BB02-39C2E6A713A2.jpeg So the investigation continues..... this one is slightly larger (oval) and I sort of got a photo down the microscope using my iPhone (so high tech - not!) here, face down, you can see the burgundy “bit” and the inclusions which are apparently called “needles”. The other photo is it just sitting face up.
 
Whatever they are, your mystery melee has lovely color.
 
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