6 carat VS1 J-K Round really interested on opinions & advice

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Hi evryone , spent hours reading many posts here over the last couple of days and really pleased to find a place where diamond lovers can interact , show off their pieces , get advice etc etc , Over the years I have aquired a small collection ( lost some great pcs too unfortunately ) and never really had the chance to share my collections with true admirers or experts ,
Anywyas , Id like to start of with the only piece in my collection that wasnt bought for myself direct from a jeweller ,
I aquired it privately ( with no certificate ) from an ex business partner in need of cash . At the time I was told its a 6 carat , Vs1 j-k colour round , ive never had it aprraised or shown it around much , a few local jewellers have agreed with the specs some of said its bigger , its approx 12-13mm wide . but im using a ruler , Would love to here your thoughts and comments

 

[Enerchi]

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curious about the posted pics from this DB listing below???
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/forum/preloved-ps-jewels/for-sale-roberto-coin-ring-18k-white-gold-and-diamonds-t190830.html']https://www.pricescope.com/forum/preloved-ps-jewels/for-sale-roberto-coin-ring-18k-white-gold-and-diamonds-t190830.html[/URL]

If you are seriously interested in information on your solitaire, take it to an appraiser and get it appraised. Use the resource tab drop down above, click on Appraisers then find one in your location. They would be much more complete and accurate.

 

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Thank you , I have been meaning to that for years , just havnt got round to it , Im in Cyprus in europe and the closest reputable one i have found is over 2.5 hrs drive away ...!

 

[Niel]

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If it where mine id have it recut. Probably see if its eligible for a AVR recut. But that's a lot to look I to especially for a 6ct. Not sure just by looking if that's feasible.

What are you planning to do with it.

 

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Can you tell me why I would want to recut it ? or anyone for that matter ? or what benefits that would have ? first time ive heard such a suggestion , i do apologise as i am not well versed in these matters .

what i plan to do ? lol, good question ! well when i aquired it , I imagined presenting it to the one I fell in love with ! that was 6 yrs ago and im still single / unmarried ! so that hasnt gone quite to plan sometimes I feel like selling it , then whenever I show someone , I get emotional and think , well what when i do find my future wife , to replace this will be astronomical ! so as of right now , not sure exactly what ill do with it , guess im still hanging on to hope of meeting that special someone to present it ( propose ) to !

 

[distracts]

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I second the suggestion for a recut - I wouldn't cut it into a different type of round but just tweak the angles to bring it closer to ideal proportions. I'd send it to GIA to get a report, insure it (dear god, please tell me this is already insured), send it to Brian Gavin Diamonds for their evaluation on whether they could recut it to bring it as close to ideal as possible without dropping under an important carat marker. Then get another GIA report, an appraisal from someone qualified to appraise such a diamond, and insure it for the new amount.

As for why to recut - it looks to me like it has cut issues and you aren't getting excellent light return. That is extremely common in large diamonds as for the cutters/sellers, retaining carat weight to maximize profit is their goal. But for the consumer, prettiness/sparkliness is usually the goal, and unfortunately ideal cuts aren't the best for retaining carat weight.

 

[timmymagic]

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hi , yes thats very interesting ! so an ideal cut could increase the value of it ! ?
I have been meaning for yrs to get it GIA certified , however very uncomfortable with posting the stone ! I will get round to physically going or sending someone on my behalf to do this one day ! as for appraising it , I just dont know of anyone locally here . local jewellers (whom I dont trust very much as being diamond experts have given me widely varying opinions and quotes )

 

[Niel]

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Can you tell me why I would want to recut it ? or anyone for that matter ? or what benefits that would have ? first time ive heard such a suggestion , i do apologise as i am not well versed in these matters .

what i plan to do ? lol, good question ! well when i aquired it , I imagined presenting it to the one I fell in love with ! that was 6 yrs ago and im still single / unmarried ! so that hasnt gone quite to plan sometimes I feel like selling it , then whenever I show someone , I get emotional and think , well what when i do find my future wife , to replace this will be astronomical ! so as of right now , not sure exactly what ill do with it , guess im still hanging on to hope of meeting that special someone to present it ( propose ) to !

Yes oh I would be so sad to hear you sell it just to buy a smaller diamond for n eengagement ring later. And I'm sure future Mrs right would be sad to hear the news as well....

Like distracts said, seems not to be the best cut. Bit as she said, that's common in stones that large. But of you want a stone to be its prettiest, cut needs to be good, not just a high ct. I suggested a AVR because they flatter lower colors a bit better, and I think if you ever did end up selling it, consignment though good old gold (the place that would have to cut it) might mean you wouldn't lose as much on the sale compared to retail.

But like distracts said you'd have to insure it and send it somewhere to see if its a candidate for recutting, regardless of what shape. I would however send it to good old gold, because they could tell you if it was able to be an AVR, or if not, cut a regular round. But that's going to cost over $1000

 

[timmymagic]

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lol, yes neil , i didnt think of that ! the fact i may have to keep the fact i owned it once a secret from future wife ! but then (ideally) there should be no secrets between us , hence I should tell her and yes it wouldnt be the best news for her , lol ..
I never new about AVR cut and that it flatters this grade of diamond colour better , !

 

[Niel]

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The cut is a branded cut from good old gold. It looks like an older cut, but cut with ideal light performance. J-K is a fine color in general, i have a K, but the stone being so big, the color (from what i remember) is probably more noticeable than if it were a smaller stone, so a cut that flatters the color i think would be nice.
heres a video of them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aXwzIL1g4M

now i dont know if it could be cut this way, but oh would it be stunning if it could. and if not, while its there being evaluated, they can see if just a regular modern round cut would be better.

 

[timmymagic]

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whats your opinions about its value ?

 

[JulieN]

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Recut.

 

[delight]

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It's hard to gauge value without proper certification. An appraiser should be able to give you answers but for a stone of this size, you would expect to pay quite a significant amount.

The diamond does look poorly cut and a fish eye can be seen clearly in your pictures.

 

[timmymagic]

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no i meant as it is ,
with a recut how much of it size would be lost ?
fish eye ? whats that pls

 

[Niel]

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no i meant as it is ,
with a recut how much of it size would be lost ?
fish eye ? whats that pls

We can't tell with just pictures. You'd have to send it to someone for evaluation.

 

[Christina...]

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Single man....six ct diamond??!!! Ummm, hello? Whats not to love!

I'm with the others, your first step should be to contact an appraiser and see what you're options are. If you are uncomfortable with your local options you could look under the resources tab above to see if there is a recommended PS appraiser that could help you with recommendations.

 

[msop04]

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Yes oh I would be so sad to hear you sell it just to buy a smaller diamond for n eengagement ring later. And I'm sure future Mrs right would be sad to hear the news as well....

Please, oh please don't sell this diamond. A recut would make it un-freaking-believable!

 

[Niel]

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Yes oh I would be so sad to hear you sell it just to buy a smaller diamond for n eengagement ring later. And I'm sure future Mrs right would be sad to hear the news as well....

Please, oh please don't sell this diamond. A recut would make it un-freaking-believable!

Agreed!

 

[timmymagic]

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ok its something which never occurred to me , but I will look into recutting it as a AVR , i do like that cut , i can see what u guys mean , thnx for ur ideas

 

[timmymagic]

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in the meantime , id like to share another piece from my collection ,
I had it commissioned in Dubai , I think they sent it over to holland to get made if i recall ,
33 carat , platinum , bracelet

 

[diamondseeker2006]

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Contact Jonathan at Good Old Gold. Recutting that stone into an AVR would be beyond awesome and would increase the beauty of that stone infinitely! He has two master cutters who would do an awesome job. That diamond is huge and has a lot of potential, but it is poorly cut and I wouldn't wear it as is. It could be cut into an ideal cut modern round brilliant and lose less weight, though, but one of the cutters is also one of the best for that cut as well.

(The diamond in my avatar picture is an AVR, just for your information.)

 

[Dreamer_D]

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I actually think the cut is not so terrible. The diamond looks quite bright in the final photo. It has a very large table which is causing it to have a different face up appearance and patterning than we are used to seeing. Certainly it can be improved. The diamond looks like it is shallow, and that might limit any options you would have for recutting. Combined with the large table, any recut aimed at imrpoving optics would likely remove a lot of weight!

Recutting is expensive for a large diamond and also has limits and risks. You don't have a GIA report so don't know the clarity or other characterisits. I am a little surpised you bought it without such information, at least a good appraisal. For example, if the diamond has been clarity enhanced it is worth much less than if it has not been so treated.

Before you speculate about anything or contemplate shipping the diamond over seas, you should find a reputable local appraiser who will evaluate the diamond properly with the appropriate tools. You might want to unset the diamond for this process so the stone can be properly evaluated. Then you can consider options. Being in Europe and not wanting to ship the diamond, which I think is the right choice!!, we are limited in the advice we can give you concerning potential recut options. But even if you wanted to recut the diamond to improve its optics -- to improve the sparkle, patterning, scintillation etc -- it is not something to undertake lightly.

I really think calls to recut the stone are very premature and not the most useful advise we could offer at this point in time.

 

[luvmysparklies]

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I think dreamerd's points are worth considering. Although, with how beautiful the AVRs are, I can really see why posters were advising to explore the option of re-cutting. Just thinking about how a stone of that size might look as an AVR is mind-blowing!

Anyway, what else do you have in your stash? That is an amazing bracelet.

 

[Niel]

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I think dreamerd's points are worth considering. Although, with how beautiful the AVRs are, I can really see why posters were advising to explore the option of re-cutting. Just thinking about how a stone of that size might look as an AVR is mind-blowing!

Anyway, what else do you have in your stash? That is an amazing bracelet.

I agree its not something to go into all willy nilly. A lot to consider, and an evaluation from a local cutter or an appraiser would probably a good place to start.

But if you plan on keeping this in your family, I do think in the long run it would be beneficial to turn this stone into something really spectacular.... whether that's just a modern round or an AVC. Because this stone has cut problems, and being so large they are obvious and take away from the beauty of the stone.

 

[babs23r]

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I also agree with Dreamer.

 

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I really appreciate the comments and opinions ,,, its got me thinking of things i never thought of before regarding the stone
I bought that stone without and appraisals or certificate yes , at that time in my life 20 up 30 down didnt really matter to me !

I will get the rock photos retakien at different angles by a proper camera and repost them , just so people can see depth and other facets more clearly , and perhaps i will get more accurate opinions ,
I have taken it to 2 jewellers , i dont know if id consider them experts , one said he;d give me 55k USD for it , or consign it to him and he would ticket it in his store , for 150K USd , another said theyd tiket it for 200 K usd and hope to sell it for around 120K usd ,
Im actually not in the EU part of cyprus , so not technically in europe . I do know of one guy whom is a HRD appraiser/expert or something on the other side of the island around 2.5 hrs away , i will make time and take it to them one of these days ..

Thnx for the comment about the bracelet , appreciate it , not many have seen it , as u can imagine i dont sport it much ,,
I will get round to posting other pieces from my collection to since ive been asked ,

Thnx again

 

[TheGeckoLady]

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Wow, that’s an impressive ring and an impressive bracelet! I’ve been doing similar debating about an uncertified, un-appraised large diamond so I totally understand how many different decisions there are to make and how hard it can be.

There is a GIA in Ramat Gan. You diamond is too large to be certified there, it has to go to New York. But perhaps you could drop it off at Ramat Gan and they could arrange the shipping. I’m not sure if they can do that or not but I think it would be worth asking. It should cost around $550USD to have a diamond that size certified (not including shipping). If you have the money and don’t trust appraisers near you this would be a great option. GIA is the most well respected standard as far as grading so you’ll know exactly what you have.
Here’s the contact info off of their website:
GIA
21 Tuval Street
Hayahalom Building, 1st Floor Suite 174
Ramat Gan 52522
Israel
T 972-03-522-6749; for calling within IDE: 2-5115
F 972-03-522-7452
[email protected]

 

[timmymagic]

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Thnx alot , I didnt know there was GIA in Israel , its only 20 mins flight from laranca !! really appreciate that info ! thnx

 

[timmymagic]

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however dont see Israel listed on there website ???

 

[timmymagic]

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ahhh yes . my apologies , they have a lab there