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youra6|1407986092|3732004 said:
Hi all,

My budget is around 5K with the ring included. I want to get close to 1 carat as possible. Cut is important to me. Clarity is probably least important.

I found this one, and I'm not sure why its priced so low. Good cut, decent color, No florescence either.

www.ritani.com/diamonds/round-diamond-1-00-Carat-G-color-GIA-certified/D-3VQP0F

Any suggestions/input are welcomed.

My advice is to drop the requirement that you have it for her birthday, and start working with one of the vendors to find you a really good SI2 or even I1. They are out there, but they are rare. And they turn up whenever they turn up, but probably not in time to meet your deadline.

Most "eyeclean" SI2s will be snatched up by a vendor to sell as an in-house diamond. The SI2 and I1 on the "virtual list" will most likely not be eyeclean. And then you / she have to decide just how much visible inclusion you can tolerate. Those diamonds are more difficult and time consuming to buy online because if it has an eye-visible inclusion (or more than 1) it's in the has-to-be-seen category.

It's far easier to buy an SI1 or up online. They are more likely to be eyeclean. But, a 1ct SI is going to be over your budget.

Drop down to warm colors like L or M, and maybe you can get 1ct within budget. But those are a) pale yellows, and b) very rare in modern H&A cut. Personally, I think they are beautiful colors. But I also like SI2 and I1 diamonds, lol.
 
Niel|1408114257|3732980 said:
OH!
This says if ordered in the next 5 hours that this stone could be to you by the 20th. Id talk to someone and make sure, but. I know you didn't want fluor, but this is just medium, so it won't have the issue of over blueing, and it is part of the reason its priced at what it is, plus, it makes it look whiter! I don't think you should exclude med flour, especially if it means you can reach all your requirements AND your timeline.

http://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD04742050?keyword_search_value=LD04742050


I like these, if your going for classic, they have a nice bezel and semi bezel one in your range too, but those might not be your(her) style.

This is my fave of the two posted
http://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-ring/diamond-engagement-ring-setting-white-gold_20403?elem=img&track=product


http://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-ring/nouveau-knife-edge-engagement-ring_38921?elem=img&track=product

I dont mind a little florescence especially if its priced accordingly.
 
youra6|1408116568|3733000 said:
Niel|1408114257|3732980 said:
OH!
This says if ordered in the next 5 hours that this stone could be to you by the 20th. Id talk to someone and make sure, but. I know you didn't want fluor, but this is just medium, so it won't have the issue of over blueing, and it is part of the reason its priced at what it is, plus, it makes it look whiter! I don't think you should exclude med flour, especially if it means you can reach all your requirements AND your timeline.

http://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD04742050?keyword_search_value=LD04742050


I like these, if your going for classic, they have a nice bezel and semi bezel one in your range too, but those might not be your(her) style.

This is my fave of the two posted
http://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-ring/diamond-engagement-ring-setting-white-gold_20403?elem=img&track=product


http://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-ring/nouveau-knife-edge-engagement-ring_38921?elem=img&track=product

I dont mind a little florescence especially if its priced accordingly.

Then I would look into this, ask someone if they can get it by your timeline.
 
Niel|1408117161|3733005 said:
youra6|1408116568|3733000 said:
Niel|1408114257|3732980 said:
OH!
This says if ordered in the next 5 hours that this stone could be to you by the 20th. Id talk to someone and make sure, but. I know you didn't want fluor, but this is just medium, so it won't have the issue of over blueing, and it is part of the reason its priced at what it is, plus, it makes it look whiter! I don't think you should exclude med flour, especially if it means you can reach all your requirements AND your timeline.

http://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD04742050?keyword_search_value=LD04742050


I like these, if your going for classic, they have a nice bezel and semi bezel one in your range too, but those might not be your(her) style.

This is my fave of the two posted
http://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-ring/diamond-engagement-ring-setting-white-gold_20403?elem=img&track=product


http://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-ring/nouveau-knife-edge-engagement-ring_38921?elem=img&track=product

I dont mind a little florescence especially if its priced accordingly.

Then I would look into this, ask someone if they can get it by your timeline.

I'm digging that first diamond you posted. You don't mind if I get some 2nd or 3rd opinions do you? :snooty:

Is it only a BN rock, or can I find it someone else for cheaper? If not, not a big deal.
 
youra6|1408117896|3733012 said:
Niel|1408117161|3733005 said:
youra6|1408116568|3733000 said:
Niel|1408114257|3732980 said:
OH!
This says if ordered in the next 5 hours that this stone could be to you by the 20th. Id talk to someone and make sure, but. I know you didn't want fluor, but this is just medium, so it won't have the issue of over blueing, and it is part of the reason its priced at what it is, plus, it makes it look whiter! I don't think you should exclude med flour, especially if it means you can reach all your requirements AND your timeline.

http://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD04742050?keyword_search_value=LD04742050


I like these, if your going for classic, they have a nice bezel and semi bezel one in your range too, but those might not be your(her) style.

This is my fave of the two posted
http://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-ring/diamond-engagement-ring-setting-white-gold_20403?elem=img&track=product


http://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-ring/nouveau-knife-edge-engagement-ring_38921?elem=img&track=product

I dont mind a little florescence especially if its priced accordingly.

Then I would look into this, ask someone if they can get it by your timeline.

I'm digging that first diamond you posted. You don't mind if I get some 2nd or 3rd opinions do you? :snooty:

Is it only a BN rock, or can I find it someone else for cheaper? If not, not a big deal.
You might be able to find it somewhere else but I don't know if that place would be cheaper or more importantly, if it could be done in your time line. I looked and I didn't see any others that I liked in keeping your budget under 5k and I or above. I'll look again though because I did exclude si1s (sense we can't see them)
 
of all the stones that are available for the date you need, that is the one i like best, but yes, other people hopefully will chime in
 
Niel|1408122156|3733056 said:
of all the stones that are available for the date you need, that is the one i like best, but yes, other people hopefully will chime in

Its already in my basket. :)

I feel like this was missed, so I'll say it again. It is not crucial that I get a diamond by the 22nd. It would simply be a plus.
 
youra6|1408122609|3733061 said:
Niel|1408122156|3733056 said:
of all the stones that are available for the date you need, that is the one i like best, but yes, other people hopefully will chime in

Its already in my basket. :)

I feel like this was missed, so I'll say it again. It is not crucial that I get a diamond by the 22nd. It would simply be a plus.

Ok, I like the james allen one if it ISNT a req. But, with your budget i think honestly your best bet is going to be a .9 ct I... and this is that, so if getting everything done by your date is important, i don't think this is settling. But, if you want to wait for a nice bright J, or eye clean SI2, we could do that too, but prices jump quite a bit at the 1 ct mark, so its up to you to think if its worth it for an extra .1 ct ish
 
Niel|1408122944|3733064 said:
youra6|1408122609|3733061 said:
Niel|1408122156|3733056 said:
of all the stones that are available for the date you need, that is the one i like best, but yes, other people hopefully will chime in

Its already in my basket. :)

I feel like this was missed, so I'll say it again. It is not crucial that I get a diamond by the 22nd. It would simply be a plus.

Ok, I like the james allen one if it ISNT a req. But, with your budget i think honestly your best bet is going to be a .9 ct I... and this is that, so if getting everything done by your date is important, i don't think this is settling. But, if you want to wait for a nice bright J, or eye clean SI2, we could do that too, but prices jump quite a bit at the 1 ct mark, so its up to you to think if its worth it for an extra .1 ct ish

.9 is A-OK!

Even though color isn't extremely important . K is a bit low for me (G-I is the sweet spot).
 
youra6|1408125641|3733102 said:
Niel|1408122944|3733064 said:
youra6|1408122609|3733061 said:
Niel|1408122156|3733056 said:
of all the stones that are available for the date you need, that is the one i like best, but yes, other people hopefully will chime in

Its already in my basket. :)

I feel like this was missed, so I'll say it again. It is not crucial that I get a diamond by the 22nd. It would simply be a plus.

Ok, I like the james allen one if it ISNT a req. But, with your budget i think honestly your best bet is going to be a .9 ct I... and this is that, so if getting everything done by your date is important, i don't think this is settling. But, if you want to wait for a nice bright J, or eye clean SI2, we could do that too, but prices jump quite a bit at the 1 ct mark, so its up to you to think if its worth it for an extra .1 ct ish

.9 is A-OK!

Even though color isn't extremely important . K is a bit low for me (G-I is the sweet spot).

Would you consider a J color? In that size stone, the color won't be nearly as obvious as if it were a larger stone...
 
msop04|1408126587|3733109 said:
youra6|1408125641|3733102 said:
Niel|1408122944|3733064 said:
youra6|1408122609|3733061 said:
Niel|1408122156|3733056 said:
of all the stones that are available for the date you need, that is the one i like best, but yes, other people hopefully will chime in

Its already in my basket. :)

I feel like this was missed, so I'll say it again. It is not crucial that I get a diamond by the 22nd. It would simply be a plus.

Ok, I like the james allen one if it ISNT a req. But, with your budget i think honestly your best bet is going to be a .9 ct I... and this is that, so if getting everything done by your date is important, i don't think this is settling. But, if you want to wait for a nice bright J, or eye clean SI2, we could do that too, but prices jump quite a bit at the 1 ct mark, so its up to you to think if its worth it for an extra .1 ct ish

.9 is A-OK!

Even though color isn't extremely important . K is a bit low for me (G-I is the sweet spot).

Would you consider a J color? In that size stone, the color won't be nearly as obvious as if it were a larger stone...

hmm... J would probably be my cut off.
 
...it even has a little fluorescence. :))
 
youra6|1408139375|3733228 said:
msop04|1408127894|3733121 said:
Okay, so I don't know if anyone has proposed this stone, but it scores a 1.6 on HCA and is 6.23 mm, so it's a little larger...

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-dia...-i-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-361334 $4090

Thanks for the recommendation! If you can explain, why do you like this one?

Now the reason I didn't post this one is because its a 60/60 stone. Nothing inherently wrong with a 60/60 stone, but I prefer smaller tables and myself seem to gravitate toward stones with 62-62.4 depths.

But I'd you're giving yourself time for asets that could be one to include.
 
Niel|1408139925|3733230 said:
youra6|1408139375|3733228 said:
msop04|1408127894|3733121 said:
Okay, so I don't know if anyone has proposed this stone, but it scores a 1.6 on HCA and is 6.23 mm, so it's a little larger...

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-dia...-i-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-361334 $4090

Thanks for the recommendation! If you can explain, why do you like this one?

Now the reason I didn't post this one is because its a 60/60 stone. Nothing inherently wrong with a 60/60 stone, but I prefer smaller tables and myself seem to gravitate toward stones with 62-62.4 depths.

But I'd you're giving yourself time for asets that could be one to include.

I see. Well in that case, I pulled the trigger on the Blue Nile one you recommended!
 
youra6|1408140867|3733239 said:
Niel|1408139925|3733230 said:
youra6|1408139375|3733228 said:
msop04|1408127894|3733121 said:
Okay, so I don't know if anyone has proposed this stone, but it scores a 1.6 on HCA and is 6.23 mm, so it's a little larger...

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-dia...-i-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-361334 $4090

Thanks for the recommendation! If you can explain, why do you like this one?

Now the reason I didn't post this one is because its a 60/60 stone. Nothing inherently wrong with a 60/60 stone, but I prefer smaller tables and myself seem to gravitate toward stones with 62-62.4 depths.

But I'd you're giving yourself time for asets that could be one to include.

I see. Well in that case, I pulled the trigger on the Blue Nile one you recommended!

What setting did you pick?? Did they say it could be done in your timeframe?
 
Niel|1408143350|3733260 said:
youra6|1408140867|3733239 said:
Niel|1408139925|3733230 said:
youra6|1408139375|3733228 said:
msop04|1408127894|3733121 said:
Okay, so I don't know if anyone has proposed this stone, but it scores a 1.6 on HCA and is 6.23 mm, so it's a little larger...

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-dia...-i-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-361334 $4090

Thanks for the recommendation! If you can explain, why do you like this one?

Now the reason I didn't post this one is because its a 60/60 stone. Nothing inherently wrong with a 60/60 stone, but I prefer smaller tables and myself seem to gravitate toward stones with 62-62.4 depths.

But I'd you're giving yourself time for asets that could be one to include.

I see. Well in that case, I pulled the trigger on the Blue Nile one you recommended!

What setting did you pick?? Did they say it could be done in your timeframe?

I picked the low dome one for 320:

http://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-ring/14k-white-gold-engagement-ring-setting_25670?elem=img&track=product
 
youra6|1408146255|3733282 said:
Niel|1408143350|3733260 said:
youra6|1408140867|3733239 said:
Niel|1408139925|3733230 said:
youra6|1408139375|3733228 said:
msop04|1408127894|3733121 said:
Okay, so I don't know if anyone has proposed this stone, but it scores a 1.6 on HCA and is 6.23 mm, so it's a little larger...

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-dia...-i-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-361334 $4090

Thanks for the recommendation! If you can explain, why do you like this one?

Now the reason I didn't post this one is because its a 60/60 stone. Nothing inherently wrong with a 60/60 stone, but I prefer smaller tables and myself seem to gravitate toward stones with 62-62.4 depths.

But I'd you're giving yourself time for asets that could be one to include.

I see. Well in that case, I pulled the trigger on the Blue Nile one you recommended!

What setting did you pick?? Did they say it could be done in your timeframe?

I picked the low dome one for 320:

http://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-ring/14k-white-gold-engagement-ring-setting_25670?elem=img&track=product

Very simple. Nice for a very nice price. Please post pictures when you have it in hand. ::)
 
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