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50 Rep National Security Officials Send Out Open Letter

telephone89

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Good read. I find it baffling that people will still vote for him 'because it's the party that counts' :nono:
 

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Yep. They don't like him. No I am not scared (not a Trump supporter once again). Because neither one can't mess things up much more than they already are.
 

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As of right now, I could find no mention of this on foxnews.com, interesting.
 

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redwood66|1470693275|4063630 said:
... not a Trump supporter once again ...
Voting is supporting.
You've stated you are voting for Trump.
Are you no longer voting for Trump?
If you still are, then you ARE a Trump supporter.

You don't get to talk out of both sides of your mouth.
 

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kenny|1470693545|4063633 said:
redwood66|1470693275|4063630 said:
... (not a Trump supporter once again). ...
You've stated you are voting for Trump.
Are you no longer voting for Trump?
If you are then you ARE a Trump supporter.

You don't get to talk out of both sides of your mouth.
I voted once already and it was not for Trump. As far as I know, the election is not until Nov. so plenty of time to decide. I just know it won't be Hillary. That was kinda rude kenny.
 

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redwood66|1470693804|4063635 said:
kenny|1470693545|4063633 said:
redwood66|1470693275|4063630 said:
... (not a Trump supporter once again). ...
You've stated you are voting for Trump.
Are you no longer voting for Trump?
If you are then you ARE a Trump supporter.

You don't get to talk out of both sides of your mouth.
I voted once already and it was not for Trump. As far as I know, the election is not until Nov. so plenty of time to decide. I just know it won't be Hillary. That was kinda rude kenny.
Rude?
You've stated you're voting for Trump but when it's convenient for you you state you do not support him.

What do you call that? ... surely much worse than 'rude'.


Be honest and you won't be called out.
 

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kenny|1470694222|4063637 said:
redwood66|1470693804|4063635 said:
kenny|1470693545|4063633 said:
redwood66|1470693275|4063630 said:
... (not a Trump supporter once again). ...
You've stated you are voting for Trump.
Are you no longer voting for Trump?
If you are then you ARE a Trump supporter.

You don't get to talk out of both sides of your mouth.
I voted once already and it was not for Trump. As far as I know, the election is not until Nov. so plenty of time to decide. I just know it won't be Hillary. That was kinda rude kenny.
Rude?
You've stated you're voting for Trump but when it's convenient for you you state you do not support him.

What do you call that? ... surely much worse than 'rude'.


Be honest and you won't be called out.
Are you itching for a fight today or something? I am always honest.
 

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kenny|1470694222|4063637 said:
redwood66|1470693804|4063635 said:
kenny|1470693545|4063633 said:
redwood66|1470693275|4063630 said:
... (not a Trump supporter once again). ...
You've stated you are voting for Trump.
Are you no longer voting for Trump?
If you are then you ARE a Trump supporter.

You don't get to talk out of both sides of your mouth.
I voted once already and it was not for Trump. As far as I know, the election is not until Nov. so plenty of time to decide. I just know it won't be Hillary. That was kinda rude kenny.
Rude?
You've stated you're voting for Trump but when it's convenient for you you state you do not support him.

What do you call that? ... surely much worse than 'rude'.
Kenny, no need to start an argument. redwood, right now it looks like you can vote for whomever you want and it won't effect Hillary. I just hope the trend continues and Trump keeps saying stupid things.
 

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NM I can not vote at all and Trump will still win my state. That is just the way it is.
 

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I was half expecting that General Colin Powell and Secretary Condoleezza Rice had signed on to this letter. I suspect they share the concerns expressed in the letter. Maybe, given their stature, they're withholding their un-endorsements in case they're needed nearer election day?
 

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redwood66|1470693275|4063630 said:
Because neither one can't mess things up much more than they already are.
You are so wrong.
 

redwood66

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In your opinion - respectfully.
 

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redwood66|1470693275|4063630 said:
Yep. They don't like him. No I am not scared (not a Trump supporter once again). Because neither one can't mess things up much more than they already are.
I don't know how you can possibly think this Redwood. Trump is flat out dangerous. Why do you think these 50 national Security officials Put out this letter?
 

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Redwood: I have no computer so I am not going to type up a long post. This is my response. Even if what you said is true, which it is not ( not as a matter if opinion but as fact by any objective standard that is not based in bigotry or religion), more Republicans are not the answer let alone TRUMP:

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redwood66|1470694699|4063641 said:
NM I can not vote at all and Trump will still win my state. That is just the way it is.
redwood, I remember now. I'm in Ca and I find it very unfair that in a heavily contested primary, sometimes, my vote does not count. By the time we get to vote, the choice has already been made. :wavey:
 

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There is a time where it becomes pointless for me to type anything here. I am not trying to change anyone's mind but showing you that there are plenty out there with a different opinion that most of you. Many of you seem to think it is your moral imperative to either prove me wrong or post things telling me how stupid you think my POV is. Thank goodness I live in a location with many people of the same views because if I lived near some of you, I would have to move. Which I am sure you would be thrilled. I honestly hope you do not speak to people in person how you speak here to someone of a different POV. Thank you for also pointing out that I am either a bigot or religious zealot.

Good luck DF, AnnaH, and JoCoJenn.
 

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Saying that Trump won't mess things up worse than Clinton is incredibly dumb. Like, factually incorrect. It's not based on opinions.

Literally the rest of the world can see it, I'm not sure why Trump Republicans can't. It seems like they are only voting for him because they don't want to be wrong. Like voting for Clinton will invalidate everything they've ever felt about being a republican (which I assume for republicans is pride and whatnot) - but that isn't true. You can vote for someone else and still be proud of your country. Still be proud to have republican values. You would just be voting for the future of your country, rather than the destruction of it because you don't want to be wrong.
 

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redwood66|1470718769|4063762 said:
Many of you seem to think it is your moral imperative to either prove me wrong or post things telling me how stupid you think my POV is.
...​
I honestly hope you do not speak to people in person how you speak here to someone of a different POV. Thank you for also pointing out that I am either a bigot or religious zealot.
I do not like the tenor of some of the comments directed at you in this thread, Red. I have said things to you in the past that I regret so I did not want to start criticizing what anyone else said. Nonetheless, I think you are almost always courteous in your tone (and if you ever slip, you are quick to apologize for a momentary lapse). You do not deserve anything less than courtesy in response.

Hugs,
(((redwood)))
Deb
 

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AGBF|1470764410|4063931 said:
redwood66|1470718769|4063762 said:
Many of you seem to think it is your moral imperative to either prove me wrong or post things telling me how stupid you think my POV is.
...​
I honestly hope you do not speak to people in person how you speak here to someone of a different POV. Thank you for also pointing out that I am either a bigot or religious zealot.
I do not like the tenor of some of the comments directed at you in this thread, Red. I have said things to you in the past that I regret so I did not want to start criticizing what anyone else said. Nonetheless, I think you are almost always courteous in your tone (and if you ever slip, you are quick to apologize for a momentary lapse). You do not deserve anything less than courtesy in response.

Hugs,
(((redwood)))
Deb
We can differ with our opinions but please, no name calling.or assumptions.. I don't agree with a lot of conservative views but everyone is entitled to their POV..
 

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Did you hear what Trump said today? His surrogates are trying to clean it up and said he is "inarticulate", great description of a presidential candidate, he misspoke. I've listened to what he said and he was clear......If Clinton is the president and she appoints left wing Supreme Court Justices, "second amendment people" could stop her, "I don't know". He is so careless with his words and "many people are saying" he doesn't even know how to read. :razz:
If he gets a pass for misspeaking, then they need to lay off of "short circuited" and the doctoring of what she truly said about not raising taxes on the middle class.
 

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If HC loses to Trump in Nov. HC should go hide in a cave for the rest of her life b/c it will be the biggest embarrassment in election history ... :oops: even more so than Reagan whipping Walter Mondale in 1984.
 

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Dancing Fire|1470801997|4064154 said:
If HC loses to Trump in Nov. HC should go hide in a cave for the rest of her life b/c it will be the biggest embarrassment in election history ... :oops: even more so than Reagan whipping Walter Mondale in 1984.
Don't worry, DF.
Your illustrious nominated Republican candidate has signaled his "Second Amendment People" to 'take care' of Clinton.
 

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kenny|1470803033|4064161 said:
Dancing Fire|1470801997|4064154 said:
If HC loses to Trump in Nov. HC should go hide in a cave for the rest of her life b/c it will be the biggest embarrassment in election history ... :oops: even more so than Reagan whipping Walter Mondale in 1984.
Don't worry, DF.
Your illustrious nominated Republican candidate has signaled his "Second Amendment People" to 'take care' of Clinton.
I did not nominate the :wacko: and I will not be voting in Nov.
 

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redwood66|1470718769|4063762 said:
There is a time where it becomes pointless for me to type anything here. I am not trying to change anyone's mind but showing you that there are plenty out there with a different opinion that most of you. Many of you seem to think it is your moral imperative to either prove me wrong or post things telling me how stupid you think my POV is. Thank goodness I live in a location with many people of the same views because if I lived near some of you, I would have to move. Which I am sure you would be thrilled. I honestly hope you do not speak to people in person how you speak here to someone of a different POV. Thank you for also pointing out that I am either a bigot or religious zealot.

Good luck DF, AnnaH, and JoCoJenn.
Red, I understand why you are leaving these discussions. You and the others of us in the minority here do not deserve the sometimes deplorable treatment. I will miss you, but maybe not, as I probably won't continue for long myself.
 

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Dancing Fire|1470803765|4064165 said:
kenny|1470803033|4064161 said:
Dancing Fire|1470801997|4064154 said:
If HC loses to Trump in Nov. HC should go hide in a cave for the rest of her life b/c it will be the biggest embarrassment in election history ... :oops: even more so than Reagan whipping Walter Mondale in 1984.
Don't worry, DF.
Your illustrious nominated Republican candidate has signaled his "Second Amendment People" to 'take care' of Clinton.
I did not nominate the :wacko: and I will not be voting in Nov.
You are in CA right? If so your vote won't count anyway. :???:
 

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redwood66|1470843521|4064281 said:
Dancing Fire|1470803765|4064165 said:
kenny|1470803033|4064161 said:
Dancing Fire|1470801997|4064154 said:
If HC loses to Trump in Nov. HC should go hide in a cave for the rest of her life b/c it will be the biggest embarrassment in election history ... :oops: even more so than Reagan whipping Walter Mondale in 1984.
Don't worry, DF.
Your illustrious nominated Republican candidate has signaled his "Second Amendment People" to 'take care' of Clinton.
I did not nominate the :wacko: and I will not be voting in Nov.
You are in CA right? If so your vote won't count anyway. :???:
Yup, really sad... :(sad . wish we can change to popular vote system then every vote counts... :appl:
 

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Dancing Fire|1470849794|4064362 said:
redwood66|1470843521|4064281 said:
Dancing Fire|1470803765|4064165 said:
kenny|1470803033|4064161 said:
Dancing Fire|1470801997|4064154 said:
If HC loses to Trump in Nov. HC should go hide in a cave for the rest of her life b/c it will be the biggest embarrassment in election history ... :oops: even more so than Reagan whipping Walter Mondale in 1984.
Don't worry, DF.
Your illustrious nominated Republican candidate has signaled his "Second Amendment People" to 'take care' of Clinton.
I did not nominate the :wacko: and I will not be voting in Nov.
You are in CA right? If so your vote won't count anyway. :???:
Yup, really sad... :(sad . wish we can change to popular vote system then every vote counts... :appl:
Please no, DF. I don't want CA and NY to choose for all of us!
 

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AnnaH|1470851534|4064378 said:
Dancing Fire|1470849794|4064362 said:
redwood66|1470843521|4064281 said:
Dancing Fire|1470803765|4064165 said:
kenny|1470803033|4064161 said:
Dancing Fire|1470801997|4064154 said:
If HC loses to Trump in Nov. HC should go hide in a cave for the rest of her life b/c it will be the biggest embarrassment in election history ... :oops: even more so than Reagan whipping Walter Mondale in 1984.
Don't worry, DF.
Your illustrious nominated Republican candidate has signaled his "Second Amendment People" to 'take care' of Clinton.
I did not nominate the :wacko: and I will not be voting in Nov.
You are in CA right? If so your vote won't count anyway. :???:
Yup, really sad... :(sad . wish we can change to popular vote system then every vote counts... :appl:
Please no, DF. I don't want CA and NY to choose for all of us!
Me either, says me in the state with 4 electoral votes. :lol:
 

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AnnaH|1470851534|4064378 said:
Please no, DF. I don't want CA and NY to choose for all of us!
True!...either way there is no hope for Republican in these two states.
 
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