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I''m trying to find the best round diamond for an engagement ring with a maximum budget of $15,000.00 for the stone only. Any help is sincerely appreciated, there are many brilliant people here, whose opinions I trust far more than the jewelers. Thank you in advance, Joe.
 
Can you give us an idea of what colors and clarity you are looking for? That would be a big help.
 
Jet, this post?
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/best-value-for-2-0-carat-diamond.115612/

Date: 5/18/2009 9:52:21 PM
Author:joedirt
I''m finally ready to proceed with purchasing a loose diamond for an engagement ring, and have followed many discussions here, and the helpful advice that has been given. I am looking for a diamond with basically the following specifications- 2.0 carats or slightly over, ideal cut, color of G,H,or I, and clarity of SI1 or SI2. I would like to spend between 13 and 15K on this diamond. Any and all suggestions are welcome, I have seen many people steered in the right direction through this forum, and I hope to be as fortunate in finding the perfect diamond. Thank you.
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Yeah, that one. Thanks, SC.
 
That stone Sc posted is perfect. Just make sure to discuss all the inclusions and to see if it''s eyeclean to your standards.
 
Date: 5/26/2009 6:03:59 PM
Author: Ellen
That stone Sc posted is perfect. Just make sure to discuss all the inclusions and to see if it''s eyeclean to your standards.
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Ditto
 
I would like to thank everyone for their help, unfortunately, before I could reserve it, it would appear that another viewer reserved it before I could, the diamond is gone. Is there a second or third choice I could consider? I will be around all afternoon and evening to act quickly in the event that an alternative is suggested to me. Again, thanks to all, I really appreciate the advice I have received, and read about here. Joe.
 
Also, would I be wise to move up and consider a VS2 or VS1, instead of a SI1? I am happy with the I color. Thank You, Joe.
 
Date: 5/27/2009 2:02:17 PM
Author: joedirt
Also, would I be wise to move up and consider a VS2 or VS1, instead of a SI1? I am happy with the I color. Thank You, Joe.
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Not if you want size. The higher you go in either clarity or color, the more the stone will cost. It is kinda tricky right now. Conversely, if you'd go down in either, it will lower the price. If you want the best cut, I'd suggest looking slightly under 2 cts. If you want size more than cut, it will maybe be a bit easier to find.

A very well cut J will look almost no different than an I.



Here's a few I found looking around. I know this is smaller, but it's still a very respectable size!

http://goodoldgold.com/diamond/5848/


This one could be eyeclean, you would need someone to look it over. Don't go by the plots and mag pics. You would receive a 5% PS discount off it.

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-1466934.htm#


Here's another really good contender. 3% wire discount.

http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=view-id-diamond-infinity&id=567


And if you could up your budget some, this one looks really good, all things considered. In fact, if you really wanted size, I'd try to shoot for this one. Not sure about a discount, you could ask. Also ask for an IS pic, but it looks good so far.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1207206.asp
 
Thanks, Ellen. I definitely wanted to stay above the magic "2.0 carat number". Your last selection really seems like a winner. I don''t mind spending more than 15K, however, the only thing that concerns me is going up to 2.27 and appearing too pretentious. We keep a low profile , and maybe I am worrying about a non issue, will 2.27 really look that much larger than 2.0? Maybe if we could get closer to 2.0 with a "I" color might be a good compromise. Also, does anyone have thoughts on the HCA scale? The 2.27 diamond scores 1.8 on it, which indicates an excellent score. Thank you, Joe.
 
Date: 5/27/2009 3:39:39 PM
Author: joedirt
Thanks, Ellen. I definitely wanted to stay above the magic '2.0 carat number'. Your last selection really seems like a winner. I don't mind spending more than 15K, however, the only thing that concerns me is going up to 2.27 and appearing too pretentious. We keep a low profile , and maybe I am worrying about a non issue, will 2.27 really look that much larger than 2.0? Maybe if we could get closer to 2.0 with a 'I' color might be a good compromise. Also, does anyone have thoughts on the HCA scale? The 2.27 diamond scores 1.8 on it, which indicates an excellent score. Thank you, Joe.
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No, honestly. After you hit the 1 ct. mark, and especially by the time you get to 2 cts., it really takes a lot more weight to make a noticeable size difference in the diameter. So in my honest opinion, I wouldn't let this one get away if you are interested and it checked out. And, this is coming from a gal who is not into size as much.
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A 1.8 is a great score. Anything under 2 just means proceed to more info. You have enough on it already to know it's looking good. All you really need now is an IS pic, and to know if it's eyeclean.

However, if you'd rather try for closer to a 2 and an I, we can try and find one. What would your top budget be?

And you're welcome!
 
Date: 5/27/2009 1:58:35 PM
Author: joedirt
I would like to thank everyone for their help, unfortunately, before I could reserve it, it would appear that another viewer reserved it before I could, the diamond is gone. Is there a second or third choice I could consider? I will be around all afternoon and evening to act quickly in the event that an alternative is suggested to me. Again, thanks to all, I really appreciate the advice I have received, and read about here. Joe.
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Gotta watch out for those lurkers! You might keep an eye on that one while you are waiting for an IS on the other. Sometimes a customer puts a diamond on hold and then ends up not buying it. If you let JA know that you are interested and the other person doesn''t finalize the purchase, they would probably let you know.

Ellen''s recommendations all look good, as well.
 
Date: 5/27/2009 4:16:56 PM
Author: jet2ks

Gotta watch out for those lurkers! You might keep an eye on that one while you are waiting for an IS on the other. Sometimes a customer puts a diamond on hold and then ends up not buying it. If you let JA know that you are interested and the other person doesn''t finalize the purchase, they would probably let you know.

Ellen''s recommendations all look good, as well.
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Good point!
 
Thanks Ellen & SC. I have talked to James Allen and have placed both diamonds (2.27c & 2.03c) on hold. They are getting the lab report on the stone SC recommended, and the IS on both of the diamonds. I will post them as soon as I receive them. I''m feeling good that I am closing in on the perfect diamond, thanks to you. If anyone else has any choices comparable to these, please let me know. Thank you, Joe.
 
You''re welcome Joe, and we''ll be watching!
 
I was considering that 2.03 as well. It looks gorgeous from the photo. Let us know how the IS turns out.
 
Hello everyone, I''m still waiting for the IS from JA, in the meantime, one other diamond has been suggested to me, and piqued my interest. Any and all opinions on this one are appreciated. It is a little more expensive than the other two, however it really seems like a winner to me, also, and possibly worth the extra $$$.

Round Brilliant
2.23 carat
Color-J
Clarity-VS2
Cut Grade-Excellent
Polish-Excellent
Symmetry-Excelent
Fluorescence-None
Table-58%
Depth-59.7%
Crown Angle-34.5%
Paillion Angle-40.6%
Girdle-Thin-Medium-Faceted
HCA Value - 0.7
 
Date: 6/2/2009 12:07:48 PM
Author: joedirt
Hello everyone, I'm still waiting for the IS from JA, in the meantime, one other diamond has been suggested to me, and piqued my interest. Any and all opinions on this one are appreciated. It is a little more expensive than the other two, however it really seems like a winner to me, also, and possibly worth the extra $$$.

Round Brilliant
2.23 carat
Color-J
Clarity-VS2
Cut Grade-Excellent
Polish-Excellent
Symmetry-Excelent
Fluorescence-None
Table-58%
Depth-59.7%
Crown Angle-34.5%
Paillion Angle-40.6%
Girdle-Thin-Medium-Faceted
HCA Value - 0.7
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Hi Joe

It has definite possibilities but I would like to see an Idealscope image for this one also please if possible.
 
Numbers look good to me.
 
Hi to all - This is the IS on the 2.27c diamond. Please let me know what you think. Joe

1207206[1].JPG
 
Its a good image Joe.
 
Here is the image of the 2.03 diamond from JA as well. This diamond did not score real well on the HCA scale, I think it was around 2.4, while the 2.27 was a 1.7 on the HCA. Should I rule this one out? Thanks, Joe.

1227664[1].JPG
 
Date: 6/3/2009 11:42:43 AM
Author: joedirt
Here is the image of the 2.03 diamond from JA as well. This diamond did not score real well on the HCA scale, I think it was around 2.4, while the 2.27 was a 1.7 on the HCA. Should I rule this one out? Thanks, Joe.
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Do you have the link/info to it?
 
Date: 6/3/2009 11:49:00 AM
Author: Ellen


Date: 6/3/2009 11:42:43 AM
Author: joedirt
Here is the image of the 2.03 diamond from JA as well. This diamond did not score real well on the HCA scale, I think it was around 2.4, while the 2.27 was a 1.7 on the HCA. Should I rule this one out? Thanks, Joe.
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Do you have the link/info to it?
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Ditto, looks like this one might have had some painting/ brillianteering done but that isn't always a bad thing if so, if you can post the info that will tell us more.
 
Hi Ellen- I don''t know how to link, but it is the diamond Stone Cold recommended above, the JA 122764, 2.03c. Thanks.
 
Got it. I swear, I thought I clicked every link before asking! And is it just me, again lol, or is the diamond image coming up for the grading report? I''m trying to get the angles.
 
Date: 6/3/2009 12:11:22 PM
Author: Ellen
Got it. I swear, I thought I clicked every link before asking! And is it just me, again lol, or is the diamond image coming up for the grading report? I'm trying to get the angles.
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Cert is not coming up for me, either.

joedirt, can you either post the crown and pavillion angles from the GIA cert (I assume JA sent you an image of it and that is how you got the HCA number), the GIA certificate number, or a jpg of the cert? Thanks.
 
Date: 6/3/2009 12:18:43 PM
Author: jet2ks

Date: 6/3/2009 12:11:22 PM
Author: Ellen
Got it. I swear, I thought I clicked every link before asking! And is it just me, again lol, or is the diamond image coming up for the grading report? I''m trying to get the angles.
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Cert is not coming up for me, either.

joedirt, can you either post the crown and pavillion angles from the GIA cert (I assume JA sent you an image of it and that is how you got the HCA number), the GIA certificate number, or a jpg of the cert? Thanks.
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Or me.
 
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