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allygirl

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Hello everyone! I have the information on the 1.573 that I have been admiring. It is an AGS Ideal 0 , polish, symmetry and proportions (the older AGS certificate). It is a round brilliant, 7.49 x 7.54 x 4.36 and the depth is 60.7%. It is a GVS2.

Any thoughts? Looked really nice under the microscope.
 
Ally, that sounds like it could be a very good one! Do you have the other measurements like crown and pavilion angles?
 
I agree with diamondseeker...sounds really nice, but more info would help. G VS2 is a sweetspot for me...just enough to save money without sacrificing the mindcleaness (is that a word?). LOL :)
 
Do not have any other numbers. Tried to get the crown and pavilion , but didn''t get in touch with the jeweler in time. What would you think would be a good crown and pavilion number? I''m going to call tomorrow...I have a copy of the AGS document, but do not see that listed anywhere...
 
did you get that depth % from the grading report?
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the crown and pavilion angles are on the grading report. they are over by the diamond diagram.
 
Belle--

I see the numbers listed on the diagram but it is a copy of the report and I cannot read them clearly. Any idea on numbers it should be? There are so many numbers listed on the diagram...
 
well...all of the numbers are important but the depth, crown and pavilion are the ones on the right side of the diagram.
 
Belle--

There are two numbers on top of each other that I believe are the crown and pavilion numbers (can''t make them out clearly) and then anohter number with a line extending from the top to the bottom of the diamond. If I were to guess , I''d say the top number were 34.2 and the bottom 40.2, but that''s just a guess because the copy is kind of smeared from being faxed to me today.

I will call tomorrow to get specfics to see if I am seeing the right numbers, but if I am correct, does that sound good or am I way off in reading what I think I see?
 
Also, the date on the certificate is April 09, 2002. Why is this so old? Do you think that this is a traded in diamond? Is that why the certificate is so the older version?

What are your thoughts about a SI1? Are inclusions able to be seen with regular vision and not microscope?
 
yes, the top and bottom number are the crown and pavilion numbers respectively. the long line with the number is the depth.
those *could* be the right ca/pa numbers but it''s not worth speculating if you can''t really tell. it will be easy enough to confirm tomorrow.
 
Date: 8/21/2006 11:08:12 PM
Author: allygirl
Also, the date on the certificate is April 09, 2002. Why is this so old? Do you think that this is a traded in diamond? Is that why the certificate is so the older version?

What are your thoughts about a SI1? Are inclusions able to be seen with regular vision and not microscope?
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it could just be that it hasn''t found a home yet. the general population isn''t looking for the best cut diamond (yet!) and some of these cuts end up sitting around awhile. especially at b&m''s.

i have an si1 that is positively, completely eye clean. eye clean, meaning you cannot see anything (not a thing) in it with your naked eye. i definitely think it is worth looking at si stones to see if you can find one that is eye clean. no one goes around with a loupe (or microscope) on their hand. and to me, a small inclusion just makes it more ''real''. not to mention easy to identify as your very own.
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Date: 8/21/2006 10:16:27 PM
Author: allygirl
Do not have any other numbers. Tried to get the crown and pavilion , but didn''t get in touch with the jeweler in time. What would you think would be a good crown and pavilion number? I''m going to call tomorrow...I have a copy of the AGS document, but do not see that listed anywhere...
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Allygirl,

Maybe you can try to get your numbers to format out like this....





(oops, wrong thread).

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bad ira!
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Is that a joke on my part because I don''t understand the diagram of the diamond YET!? I am just on these boards for help to LEARN. Everyone has to start somewhere!
 
Ally don't take offense to Regular Guy. He is just making reference to another (long) thread on here that had to do with people obsessing over diamond statistics. Everyone was new on this forum at some point and there is a lot of confusing information to sort through.
 
I wasn''t offended, just not sure how to take that. I am new to the diamond search and just want to make sure that I gather all of the facts before I make my decision. Thanks to all of you here, I have learned alot! I just hope that I make the right decision. My big issue right now is that the jeweler that I am dealing with seems to be coming up with AGS0 diamonds, but they appear to have the older certificate and MUCH older dates on them.....
 
My local jeweler tends to carry some older inventory with the older certificates, but that doesn''t mean that the diamonds are not okay. To me it makes a big difference if you can see the diamonds with your own eyes and judge them in different lighting situations. If I were ordering online I think I would prefer to have one of the new AGS certificates that grades performance.
 
Ally, I wouldn''t worry about the date on the cert. Once you get the crown and pavilion angle''s let us know, but the stone sounds like it could be beautiful.
 
Date: 8/22/2006 9:10:06 AM
Author: Sundial
My local jeweler tends to carry some older inventory with the older certificates, but that doesn''t mean that the diamonds are not okay. To me it makes a big difference if you can see the diamonds with your own eyes and judge them in different lighting situations. If I were ordering online I think I would prefer to have one of the new AGS certificates that grades performance.
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exactly sundial. here, here.
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You mention much older dates....i.e. 3-4 years old, etc.

If this is the case, I'd ask the jeweler if it's possible to get a new grading report for a stone you're going to purchase.

Why? Because diamonds are traded up all the time. If a diamond's been worn previously, it's possible for some damage to have occurred, and the grading report may not reflect the status of it now.

Alternately, you could make your purchase contingent upon a satisfactory appraisal done by an independent appraiser of your choosing. He, too, could readily determine if the stone is in the same shape, etc.
 
Date: 8/22/2006 9:50:04 AM
Author: aljdewey

If this is the case, I''d ask the jeweler if it''s possible to get a new grading report for a stone you''re going to purchase.


Why? Because diamonds are traded up all the time. If a diamond''s been worn previously, it''s possible for some damage to have occurred, and the grading report may not reflect the status of it now.
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i actually did this with my stone. The original report was from 6 years ago and actually the gal who traded the stone lost it so the vendor sent it back to AGS for a new grading report. It took a little less than a month but since AGS has changed how they grade I wanted the new info anyway.
 
It would be helpful to get all your options in one thread.

Non Lazare 1.57 GVS2 - 14,400.00? 9170 per carat
Lazare 1.26 GSI1 - 9,800.00? 7777 per carat

Can you swing the $4600.00 more? It looks to be the better value. Can you live w/o the LK pedigree?
 
also wanted to add ally, you have the advantage of seeing all the stones in person. Which one stands out and performs the best to your eyes?
 
I still have not figured whether or not I want to go that high in price, but if I did, the April 09, 2002 on the document worries me. That''s really old!!!!!
 
Date: 8/22/2006 11:28:45 AM
Author: allygirl
I still have not figured whether or not I want to go that high in price, but if I did, the April 09, 2002 on the document worries me. That''s really old!!!!!
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ally, it''s really not that old, but if you''re really worried about it, you can do what I did. Just have your jeweler send it back to AGS for a new cert. it takes some time but might be worth it if if will give you peace of mind..
 
I finally have the specs on the 1.25 lazarre si1.

table 55%
depth 62.5%
crown 15.5%
pav 42.9%

6.88 x 6.94 x 4.30

Any thoughts?
 
OOPs, I posted the 1.25 on the wrong thread. Sorry (I''d still like opinions on it!)

the 1.57 is a GVS2 Ideal

table 57%
depth 60.7%
crown 14.8%
pav 42.7%

measurements 7.49 x 7.54 x 4.36
 
crown/pavillion angles are more acurate than percentages, but this stone has potential and you seemed to love the look of it.
 
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