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http://www.bbc.com/news/business-39947942

Facebook's collection of data makes it one of the most influential organisations in the world. Share Lab wanted to look "under the bonnet" at the tech giant's algorithms and connections to better understand the social structure and power relations within the company.

A couple of years ago, Vladan Joler and his brainy friends in Belgrade began investigating the inner workings of one of the world's most powerful corporations.

The team, which includes experts in cyber-forensic analysis and data visualisation, had already looked into what he calls "different forms of invisible infrastructures" behind Serbia's internet service providers.

But Mr Joler and his friends, now working under a project called Share Lab, had their sights set on a bigger target.

"If Facebook were a country, it would be bigger than China," says Mr Joler, whose day job is as a professor at Serbia's Novi Sad University.

He reels off the familiar, but still staggering, numbers: the barely teenage Silicon Valley firm stores some 300 petabytes of data, boasts almost two billion users, and raked in almost $28bn (£22bn) in revenues in 2016 alone.

And yet, Mr Joler argues, we know next to nothing about what goes on under the bonnet - despite the fact that we, as users, are providing most of the fuel - for free.

"All of us, when we are uploading something, when we are tagging people, when we are commenting, we are basically working for Facebook," he says.

The data our interactions provide feeds the complex algorithms that power the social media site, where, as Mr Joler puts it, our behaviour is transformed into a product.

Trying to untangle that largely hidden process proved to be a mammoth task.

"We tried to map all the inputs, the fields in which we interact with Facebook, and the outcome," he says.

"We mapped likes, shares, search, update status, adding photos, friends, names, everything our devices are saying about us, all the permissions we are giving to Facebook via apps, such as phone status, wifi connection and the ability to record audio."

All of this research provided only a fraction of the full picture. So the team looked into Facebook's acquisitions, and scoured its myriad patent filings.

The results were astonishing.

Visually arresting flow charts that take hours to absorb fully, but which show how the data we give Facebook is used to calculate our ethnic affinity (Facebook's term), sexual orientation, political affiliation, social class, travel schedule and much more.

One map shows how everything - from the links we post on Facebook, to the pages we like, to our online behaviour in many other corners of cyber-space that are owned or interact with the company (Instagram, WhatsApp or sites that merely use your Facebook log-in) - could all be entering a giant algorithmic process.

And that process allows Facebook to target users with terrifying accuracy, with the ability to determine whether they like Korean food, the length of their commute to work, or their baby's age.

Another map details the permissions many of us willingly give Facebook via its many smartphone apps, including the ability to read all text messages, download files without permission, and access our precise location.

Individually, these are powerful tools; combined they amount to a data collection engine that, Mr Joler argues, is ripe for exploitation.

"If you think just about cookies, just about mobile phone permissions, or just about the retention of metadata - each of those things, from the perspective of data analysis, are really intrusive."

Facebook has for years asserted that data privacy and the security of its operations are paramount. Facebook data, for example, cannot be used by developers to create surveillance tools and the firm says it complies with privacy protection laws in all countries. Thousands of new staff have been recruited to police its content.

Mr Joler, though, while admitting that his research made him a little paranoid about the information that was being harvested, is more worried about the longer term.

The data will remain in the hands of one company. Even if its current leaders are responsible and trustworthy, what about those in charge in 20 years?
Analysts say Share Lab's work is valuable and impressive. "It's probably the most comprehensive work I've ever seen," says Dr Julia Powles, an expert in technology law and policy at Cornell Tech.

"[The research] shows in cold and calculated terms how much we are giving away for the value of being able to communicate with your mates," she says.

The scale of Facebook's reach can be stated in raw numbers - but Share Lab's maps make it visceral, in a way that drawing parallels cannot.

"We haven't really got appropriate historical analogies for the tech giants," explains Dr Powles. Their powers, she continues, extend "far beyond" the likes of the East India Company and monopolies of old, such as Standard Oil.

And while many may consider the objectives of Mark Zuckerberg's empire to be rather benign, its outcomes are not always so.

Facebook, argues Dr Powles, "plays to our base psychological impulses" by valuing popularity above all else.

Not that she expects Share Lab's research to lead to a mass Facebook exodus, or a dramatic increase in the scrutiny of tech titans.

"What is most striking is the sense of resignation, the impotence of regulation, the lack of options, the public apathy," says Dr Powles. "What an extraordinary situation for an entity that has power of information - there is no greater power really."

It is this extraordinary dominance that the Share Lab team set out to illustrate. But Mr Joler is quick to point out that even their grand maps cannot provide an accurate picture of the social media giant's capabilities.

There is no guarantee, for example, that there are not many other algorithms at work that are still heavily guarded trade secrets.

However, Mr Joler argues, "it is still the one and only map that exists" of one of the greatest forces shaping our world today.
 
"What is most striking is the sense of resignation, the impotence of regulation, the lack of options, the public apathy," says Dr Powles.

... Kenny is not resigned, apathetic, or feels there is a lack of options.
I need no regulation of Facebook.
I'll just regulate myself, by never joining FB.
 
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Kenny,
I think gradually increasing exposure and familiarity to social media and internet connectivity is similar to the lobster in the pot. It doesn't sense the change in environs until it's too late. The researcher noted current ceo at fbook says he won't use disaggregated info for gain... But what about future? What about massive leaks of personal info?
I've grown accustomed to accessing so much stuff in comfort of my home at any time. Before ease of internet and smart phones I'd spend hours at library catching up on stuff. Even though I've limited exposure on fbook and affiliated sites I use this one and a couple other; I'm sure I have info out there. What's a 21st century person to do?!?
 
This is why I gave up FB years ago. I miss out on a lot... the PS group that moved over there, school and community news and discussions.... Plus my friends tend not to fill me in personally (they just post everything to FB and I miss it). However I am more content without it. Lol, I get some great 'omg looks' when I tell people I'm not on FB!
 
I use FB responsibly. I don't use my real name, and nothing much is gleaned from comments I make. I make no personal posts at all. I only share a few pics of my dogs. I post in closed groups--all of the same info that is available right here on PS in more detail probably. I use an adblocker, I never see targeted ads and my Google remains uncorrupted by ads too. I'm no one's demographic IMO. Canadian and 55. What do they want to know?
 
... Kenny is not resigned, apathetic, or feels there is a lack of options.
I need no regulation of Facebook.
I'll just regulate myself, by never joining FB.

Same- not interested in FB. I'm too much of a private person and if I want to share something with you, I'll visit with you, email to you or speak with you via phone. Back to the basics!

I'm the only person in my Real Estate Office of about 200 that does not have a FB account and continue to be asked "why" - and I say the same, Privacy!
 
They need to make money somehow, or the product wouldn't be able to employ the thousands of employees working constantly to better all their programs, on Facebook and in the real world. They do a lot of research and great things in the world that are outside of social media.

I don't understand why it's a problem when an internet company collects data to make $, but it isn't when credit cards and stores do?
 
I've never been on FB. Back when it started up, I would get what I thought were sad emails pleading with me to Friend someone who had me in their email contacts. I thought how ridiculous that was and it turned me off to FB way before all the privacy issues and monetizing got started.

I had some tough years in my 20s, I DREAD to think what FB would have done to me in those days.
 
LOL. Didn't we recently have a thread about hiding your IP address with VPN? Unless you go to great lengths to protect your privacy, might as well not use the internet at all.

I've been on FB since 2008 now. I'm personally tired of it and use other media (Instagram, Twitter) but keep up with family and old friends on FB. Other than that I use it for the amazing marketing tool that it is. The reach is astounding, and I can target ads so specifically that the ROI can't be beat. So yeah, Kenny, your article is spot on.
 
I thought you had to use your real name when you register.
Nope. Unless some jerk decides to report you, real name is not necessary. Lots of PSrs have duplicate (probably triplicate and so on) accounts using fake names.
 
I resisted FB for a long time, but joined recently to better stay in touch with some family and friends, and find it's way easier to keep up with them this way. Not to the exclusion of phone calls and face-to-face contact but as a supplement to those. It works well for that. I also belong to a private FB group on political issues and follow a former colleague who is very up-to-date and smart about political issues, especially 1st Amendment stuff, so FB works well for me on that too.

I have all my privacy settings adjusted to suit my purposes, but I also know that FB is gathering data on me in exchange for providing its service to me at no charge. I'm okay with that. At least I'm getting something I value in exchange.

To a great degree, social media can be set up to be what you want it to be, but it's not going to be something someone gives you for free with no strings attached. If you want something for nothing, you'll need to keep on looking.
 
I thought you had to use your real name when you register.

Nope. Unless some jerk decides to report you, real name is not necessary. Lots of PSrs have duplicate (probably triplicate and so on) accounts using fake names.

I'm not sure it matters either way - FB is using face recognition so I'm quite sure that everyone posted is 'tagged' internally if not overtly, and who knows if it's being used by government agencies behind the scenes...


I have no desire to be on FB. Usefulness>invasiveness? No.

It irritated me that someone took a photo with me in and posted it straight up - how about asking my permission? Why am I 'weird' for not wanting to be on the internet? Do they really think that pressing 'Delete' actually deletes it from FB servers??

I am trying my very best to maintain some privacy in a world where our every move is tracked and monitored 'just in case', so don't disrespect my choices to not help those doing the tracking in their efforts.
 
Wow, poor Casper, Lola and Murphy. Their pics are on FB and may be used in face recognition programs? Maybe I'll start getting targeted ads for dog food and toys.:cheeky: I'm untraceable I tell you. I have a unisex name, same name as some celebrity I've never heard of. I can't find me on Google or FB. I think social media is just something to be cautious with. I'm thankful it came after my kids were almost done high school. I don't like how dependent younger people can be with social media in general.
 
@kenny are you a secret squirrel? If you know what that means, you'll understand the question.
 
@kenny are you a secret squirrel? If you know what that means, you'll understand the question.

I had to Google it, so no.

From Urban Dictionary ... but it's still not clear exactly what it means and what/why you'd ask this.
Do you feel people not on social networking are spies?
Or is it that you suspect my parrot works like a carrier pigeon transporting microfilm to a foreign agent?

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Well they DID discover a carrier pigeon carrying drugs just recently so.... :P

But reality is that if you are on the internet, if you have email, a cell phone (doesn't matter what type is is) It takes as little as 3 pieces of information for someone to find you and find out about you if they really wanted to.

Our information gets sold and bought at an alarming rate based on different factors.

You have a house, a car, shop at a grocery store (shop at target!) We whether we know it or not, we give away and work for many companies out there.

If at Bed Bath and Beyond you give them your email address or any type of info for coupons , you get more than a few coupons, trust. Same thing with any other store that asks for it (Bath and Body Works is very bad about this)

If you surf the net, you probably got a billion cookies on your machine. some of them are tracking cookies and they don't expire for very long periods of time. On this site alone there are 6 based on what Ghostery is saying.

When you sign up to a website you have to agree to their TOS to use it, If of course you don't read their TOS you might not find all the stuff they say they may or will do with your information, but plenty can and do sell it, its just hidden amongst the wall of words they throw at you.

Anyway back to facebook. I have no expectation of privacy there and they do use you because they tell you they will. I do a lot of application development so none of this is new to me... all sites gather info on you for their benefit. In the case of facebook, they serve more ads that has to do with my dog than anything, which doesn't bother me in the least. Its how I found her daycare when I first moved here (and that was a MUST) I use the phonetic spelling of my real name because my cousin got to it before I did (she was named after me and had been on facebook since college) but I do use my real location. However I might post 2 days a month, and it usually has to do with my dog:lol: If I really want to talk to family, I have a phone for that.

I've now written about 8 paragraphs... yeah sue me:lol-2:

The reality is this; if you want to be private thats understandable, but maybe don't use the internet so much and NEVER use it at home. There's only a few VPNs that actual do really good jobs @ hiding your tracks, and I use one of them for work. I can't tell you what that is.

But I will tell you that I'm not a secret squirrel...lol
 
Well they DID discover a carrier pigeon carrying drugs just recently so.... :P

But reality is that if you are on the internet, if you have email, a cell phone (doesn't matter what type is is) It takes as little as 3 pieces of information for someone to find you and find out about you if they really wanted to.

Our information gets sold and bought at an alarming rate based on different factors.

You have a house, a car, shop at a grocery store (shop at target!) We whether we know it or not, we give away and work for many companies out there.

If at Bed Bath and Beyond you give them your email address or any type of info for coupons , you get more than a few coupons, trust. Same thing with any other store that asks for it (Bath and Body Works is very bad about this)

If you surf the net, you probably got a billion cookies on your machine. some of them are tracking cookies and they don't expire for very long periods of time. On this site alone there are 6 based on what Ghostery is saying.

When you sign up to a website you have to agree to their TOS to use it, If of course you don't read their TOS you might not find all the stuff they say they may or will do with your information, but plenty can and do sell it, its just hidden amongst the wall of words they throw at you.

Anyway back to facebook. I have no expectation of privacy there and they do use you because they tell you they will. I do a lot of application development so none of this is new to me... all sites gather info on you for their benefit. In the case of facebook, they serve more ads that has to do with my dog than anything, which doesn't bother me in the least. Its how I found her daycare when I first moved here (and that was a MUST) I use the phonetic spelling of my real name because my cousin got to it before I did (she was named after me and had been on facebook since college) but I do use my real location. However I might post 2 days a month, and it usually has to do with my dog:lol: If I really want to talk to family, I have a phone for that.

I've now written about 8 paragraphs... yeah sue me:lol-2:

The reality is this; if you want to be private thats understandable, but maybe don't use the internet so much and NEVER use it at home. There's only a few VPNs that actual do really good jobs @ hiding your tracks, and I use one of them for work. I can't tell you what that is.

But I will tell you that I'm not a secret squirrel...lol

Those things will make one person (apparently you) throw up their hands and give up regarding privacy.
But they result in another person (like me) taking whatever remaining privacy-preserving precautions remain ... like not joining facebook, twitter, instagram, iCloud etc. etc. etc.
No I don't have a card to get the discount price at any supermarket.
I do not shop at such places.

I pay cash everywhere and never give out my email.
If I have to to perform a transaction I make a fake up a fake email address.
When a store insists on an ID I walk out.
I never go home and log onto any company's site to possibly win a free whatever. :roll:

People vary.
Though we both make different choices, we're both perfectly suited for how we are.
I make no bid to change you; kindly return the respect.

But again, what's this got to do with you thinking I might be a spy with your squirrel question?
 
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Oh, my cellphone is not under my name.
When I walk into a B&M phone store to load my prepaid plan with a $100 bill (yes cash, paper, not paypal, VISA, etc.) I give them that person's name.
Once when asked for ID, I said I left my wallet at home.
Oh, no problem Mr. "Smith".

I don't use coupons, let alone any requiring personal info.
I don't apply for rebates, another scam to make money of your personal info.
I never 'register' product warranties, another personal-info collection scheme.

No I'm not a spy or a criminal eluding capture.
Just a private citizen who wants to be left alone.

My ex of 13 years bought and sold names on mailing lists (Direct Marketing they called it) ... long before the Internet, Fvckzerberg and 'smart'phones raped us.
My ex is why I really get all this, and a big reason I left that man.

My browser is set to not take cookies, unless I approve each one.
Even then I reset everything weekly so I have to log in freshly to the few places I visit, like PS.

Is what I do perfect and bulletproof? No.
Is it better than giving up? Yes.
 
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Kenny, I'm not here to change anybody, you do you. All I did was put out there what people should know and be aware of.

Let me give you a tip on browsing just because; If you rely on your browser to always be honest with about the cookies it allows, don't. Thats the reality of how the internet works today.


The secret squirrel comment is a joke.


At any rate this is getting too uncool and heavy and I'm not here for that. Deuces.
 
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No problem. :))

BTW, I didn't write that BBC article, so apparently I'm not the only one with these concerns.
 
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