Would you say this woman is beautiful?

[kenny]

The question was "do you say this woman is beautiful?"

Each of us is entitled to answer yes or no.

That various cultures find various things beautiful is fine, but each of us is from our own culture and no matter how PC we are we are not expected to adopt the values of every culture.
Respecting other cultures is wonderful but we do not have to apologize for our own either.

 

[yssie]

Her features are beautiful and striking, but I don't care for the distracting tattoo.

 

[dragonfly411]

Date: 6/17/2010 5:21:14 PM
Author: princesss

Date: 6/17/2010 5:11:35 PM

Author: dragonfly411

Princess - She seems calm. She is comfortable and showing herself as she is with no qualms no second thoughts. There is no fear in her eyes, no sense of second guessing herself in any way. And as for the peace comment, I don''t think one can truly be at peace until they are comfortable in their own skin, and are confident in the person they are. Wouldn''t you agree? I can honestly say I am not peaceful... because I am skeptical of myself still... among other things.

I don''t know. I think that a person can get to the point where they are at peace without it being related to self-image at all. Just the ability to say ''This is life, this is how it is, this is how it will be, and then I''ll die,'' can bring a great deal of peace and (for me and many people I know) not related in any way to how I feel about myself. Also, I think it''s a very specific cultural construct that one can be comfortable/uncomfortable in their own skin, and I''d argue that it''s very possibly not necessary to many people in the world.


Maybe ''acceptance'' is a better word for what I think she''s projecting, but it makes me feel peaceful.


Kenny, I really wish I could find a print of this picture. I really love it.

Wouldn''t you say though that finding that acceptance requires peace with oneself and how one''s life has turned out? To me that is a part of confidence... you are happy with yourself as you are and have no qualms with yourself.

I hope I''m making sense

 

[princesss]

Date: 6/17/2010 5:32:45 PM
Author: dragonfly411

Date: 6/17/2010 5:21:14 PM
Author: princesss

Date: 6/17/2010 5:11:35 PM

Author: dragonfly411

Princess - She seems calm. She is comfortable and showing herself as she is with no qualms no second thoughts. There is no fear in her eyes, no sense of second guessing herself in any way. And as for the peace comment, I don''t think one can truly be at peace until they are comfortable in their own skin, and are confident in the person they are. Wouldn''t you agree? I can honestly say I am not peaceful... because I am skeptical of myself still... among other things.

I don''t know. I think that a person can get to the point where they are at peace without it being related to self-image at all. Just the ability to say ''This is life, this is how it is, this is how it will be, and then I''ll die,'' can bring a great deal of peace and (for me and many people I know) not related in any way to how I feel about myself. Also, I think it''s a very specific cultural construct that one can be comfortable/uncomfortable in their own skin, and I''d argue that it''s very possibly not necessary to many people in the world.


Maybe ''acceptance'' is a better word for what I think she''s projecting, but it makes me feel peaceful.


Kenny, I really wish I could find a print of this picture. I really love it.

Wouldn''t you say though that finding that acceptance requires peace with oneself and how one''s life has turned out? To me that is a part of confidence... you are happy with yourself as you are and have no qualms with yourself.

I hope I''m making sense

I think that peace and acceptance are separate from self.

 

[kenny]

Date: 6/17/2010 5:21:14 PM
Author: princesss

Kenny, I really wish I could find a print of this picture. I really love it.

Here is the source; email them.

click

 

[dragonfly411]

Date: 6/17/2010 5:35:09 PM
Author: princesss

Date: 6/17/2010 5:32:45 PM

Author: dragonfly411

Date: 6/17/2010 5:21:14 PM

Author: princesss

Date: 6/17/2010 5:11:35 PM


Author: dragonfly411


Princess - She seems calm. She is comfortable and showing herself as she is with no qualms no second thoughts. There is no fear in her eyes, no sense of second guessing herself in any way. And as for the peace comment, I don''t think one can truly be at peace until they are comfortable in their own skin, and are confident in the person they are. Wouldn''t you agree? I can honestly say I am not peaceful... because I am skeptical of myself still... among other things.

I don''t know. I think that a person can get to the point where they are at peace without it being related to self-image at all. Just the ability to say ''This is life, this is how it is, this is how it will be, and then I''ll die,'' can bring a great deal of peace and (for me and many people I know) not related in any way to how I feel about myself. Also, I think it''s a very specific cultural construct that one can be comfortable/uncomfortable in their own skin, and I''d argue that it''s very possibly not necessary to many people in the world.



Maybe ''acceptance'' is a better word for what I think she''s projecting, but it makes me feel peaceful.



Kenny, I really wish I could find a print of this picture. I really love it.

Wouldn''t you say though that finding that acceptance requires peace with oneself and how one''s life has turned out? To me that is a part of confidence... you are happy with yourself as you are and have no qualms with yourself.


I hope I''m making sense

I think that peace and acceptance are separate from self.

I guess we view them differently then

Or at least view the sense of what she exudes differently.

For me a confident woman doesn''t have to be sassy, or willing to strike a pose and scream "I''m IT". She can calmly look at you and say it all "This is me, this is who I am... I am happy with that... and if you aren''t then Oh well."

 

[Steel]

I didn''t read all the answers; have a slow internet connection today.

I voted yes. But would like to add that I feel the inking has taken from her attractiveness; I don''t care if it is her culture or whatever I make the comment on ''face value'' of the photo with no back story.

 

[kenny]

Interesting the tattoo was intended to protect her from being kidnapped to become a concubine to a price.

 

[Steel]

Date: 6/17/2010 5:45:01 PM
Author: kenny
Interesting the tattoo was intended to protect her from being kidnapped to become a concubine to a price.

Did it work?

 

[decodelighted]

Well, now I find it terribly sad. She was obviously tattooed like that BECAUSE she was unusually beautiful & would be more likely to be kidnapped, enslaved etc. because of her appeal to men. So they "ruined" her to keep her safe.

But then, if it DID keep her safe from attack -- maybe it was a GOOD thing. What kind of horrible world do we women live in?

 

[dragonfly411]

Deco - that''s what I was thinking, the tattoos were not by choice, but were forced on her in an effort to keep her safe.

 

[princesss]

Date: 6/17/2010 5:35:34 PM
Author: kenny

Date: 6/17/2010 5:21:14 PM
Author: princesss

Kenny, I really wish I could find a print of this picture. I really love it.

Here is the source; email them.

click

Thanks, Kenny, I will!

 

[mrscushion]

Date: 6/17/2010 4:38:21 PM
Author: elrohwen
The tattoos are interesting, but under them she''s got some great bone structure!
eta: I also think she has very kind eyes and a peaceful face.

Agreed!

 

[jaysonsmom]

I think she''s beautiful for her age. Her tattoos hide any age spots she may have

 

[Autumnovember]

I wasn''t asking anyone for apologies. I was stating my own opinion just as everyone else was. In my opinion, culture needs to be acknowledged when considering her beauty. Agree or disagree, its my opinion.

 

[lulu]

Well, I wouldn''t want my aunt Sophie to do this...but on her it works!

 

[AprilBaby]

I voted yes. The woman is quite beautiful, but I don''t care for the tatoos.

 

[HollyS]

Date: 6/17/2010 5:27:42 PM
Author: kenny
The question was ''do you say this woman is beautiful?''

Each of us is entitled to answer yes or no.

That various cultures find various things beautiful is fine, but each of us is from our own culture and no matter how PC we are we are not expected to adopt the values of every culture.
Respecting other cultures is wonderful but we do not have to apologize for our own either.

Well said.

Answering that "Yes, she''s beautiful because she has kind eyes, or a calm demeanor" is the policitally correct version of the truth. The unadulterated truth is that most of us do not really consider her to be beautiful even if we find her interesting. If we would not do it to our own faces . . . and no one here probably would . . . then we, in fact, do not consider her ''facial art'' as a thing of beauty.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the truth. Trying not to step on anyone''s proverbial toes is going to be the cause of many a fallen arch someday.

 

[sunnyd]

I think she''s beautiful because she''s interesting to look at.

 

[Irishgrrrl]

I think she''s beautiful, tattoos and all. And I''m not saying that to be "PC" (whatever that means these days) . . . I truly do think she''s beautiful. And no, I wouldn''t tattoo my own face like that, but that doesn''t mean I can''t find it beautiful. In MY culture, it''s not socially acceptable to have facial tattooing like this . . . doesn''t mean it''s not beautiful.

Another example: I think platinum/white gold is beautiful on other people, but I don''t like the way it looks on me so I don''t wear white metals at all (only yellow gold). I still find white metals beautiful . . . but I wouldn''t wear them myself.

And I agree with everyone who said she exudes a sense of peace and wisdom. I immediately had that thought as soon as I first looked at the picture.

 

[tigian]

I voted yes. She has a very symmetrical face and strong features. As for the tattoo...not my thing, but I still see beauty.

 

[junebug17]

Date: 6/17/2010 4:40:38 PM
Author: Bunny007
She has a friendly, interesting face. I wouldn''t use the word ''beautiful'' though.

I agree with Bunny.

 

[Sha]

I think she is beautiful but I would find her more so without the tattoo. I find it distracting.

 

[marcy]

Certainly interesting.

 

[Miss Sparkly]

Her face and eyes are stunning. There is a deep level of calmness, acceptance, and wisdom beyond what the mind can conceive. The photo makes me feel like crying - then wishing I could go sit next to her and talk to her about all the wonders of the world.

 

[luv2sparkle]

I think she is beautiful, and I am glad her tattoos kept her safe. I wouldn''t want to have them but she is beautiful with them and would be without.

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 6/17/2010 5:51:19 PM
Author: decodelighted
Well, now I find it terribly sad. She was obviously tattooed like that BECAUSE she was unusually beautiful & would be more likely to be kidnapped, enslaved etc. because of her appeal to men. So they ''ruined'' her to keep her safe.

But then, if it DID keep her safe from attack -- maybe it was a GOOD thing. What kind of horrible world do we women live in?

Deco has said what I was thinking.

To answer the question - yes, I find both her and the second woman beautiful.
As others have said, they seem to have something peaceful, serene about their eyes and expressions.

I do hope that the tattoos did their work in this case, but imho the tattoos do not diminish her beauty. Hard to explain, but I prefer to view her as a whole rather than say "she''d be prettier without the tattoos".

 

[Sizzle]

Date: 6/17/2010 6:25:45 PM
Author: Autumnovember
I wasn''t asking anyone for apologies. I was stating my own opinion just as everyone else was. In my opinion, culture needs to be acknowledged when considering her beauty. Agree or disagree, its my opinion.

Perhaps it is the way your word things. People cannot necessarily determine tone via a message board. Your comments also assume that their is one "culture" answering the questions. Believe it or not, I am sure there are many people world wide who do not think Heidi Klum is beautiful. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I dont think ANYONE needs to put a qualifier with their answer.

 

[meresal]

Date: 6/17/2010 5:19:55 PM
Author: Autumnovember
Ha. Some people''s ignorance is amazing, truly.
What is considered beautiful in the western culture is not considered beautiful world wide. Keep that in mind, people.

Believe it or not Heidi Klum would not be considered ''beautiful'' in Egypt.

This part was directed at a PS member, not at OP''s question.


I voted No. It''s honest. I do not find facial tattoos attractive.

Yes, western culture is oboviously not accepted all over the world, and especially not where this woman resides... but I also don''t expect this woman to say that Heidi Klum is "beautiful" if it is not what she truly believes, especially since her culture more than likely looks down on our most publicized form of beauty (ie, makeup and surgery)

I would agree that this woman looks wonderful, in a way that intrigues me, but I do not find her beautiful on the eyes in the most generic sense.

 

[Upgradable]

I think she is stunningly beautiful! <- no matter the cultural traditions or age or events of her life, that is ended with an exclamation point, and I mean it!