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DF and I are having our engagement party in 6 weeks (yay!). It will be fairly big for us (100+ people) as all our friends and the entire family are invited as we are eloping and want to give everyone a chance to celebrate with us at least at the e-party.

Anyway, in 12 years we have collected just about everything we need for a house (and more!), so we don''t really need presents. We have made it clear to our friends/family that presents are not necessary although people are insistent on bringing gifts - I suppose I understand this, there is no way I would attend an e=party without a gift of some sort but i honestly don''t expect it back. I think some people are more insistent on giving a gift as they won''t have an opportunity at the wedding etc.

So, DF and I would really love a new BBQ and outdoor furniture - they are the two things on our ''dream list'' that we will get eventually after the wedding etc (or when we win the lottery). We were going to tell our parents that if anyone asked us what we wanted, we would be grateful if they contributed to these items by way of a voucher to that store if they wanted, but only as a suggestion, we have told the Mum''s to again reiterate the no need for a pressie thing.

One neighbour suggested a wishing well - where people can contribute cash or vouchers in a card or annon, whatever they feel, or can give a gift if they really want to.

What are your thoughts on this. I feel really uncomfortable about the whole present thing, we are honestly just happy to have a big party, but I know some people really want gift ideas, but then we don''t want to put pressure on people to give cash or vouchers, and I like the idea of a wishing well so they can give something without leaving their name, or they can even chose not to give a gift and not feel bad about it, as we won''t know who has contributed or not.

Am I overthinking this? Do you think having a wishing well would make people feel they had to contribute, when we want the total opposite - we want our guests to feel comfortable.
 
Please don't do the wishing well, it's really tacky unless it's a cultural thing IMO. I think spreading the word via parents is the way to go. Just have mom's line be "I know they were really hoping to buy a patio set from XYZ store" and leave it at that.
 
Date: 9/19/2008 8:22:00 PM
Author: neatfreak
Please don''t do the wishing well, it''s really tacky unless it''s a cultural thing IMO. I think spreading the word via parents is the way to go. Just have mom''s line be ''I know they were really hoping to buy a patio set from XYZ store'' and leave it at that.
Big ditto to that!!!!
 
If people choose to give you an engagement gift they will do so without a tasteless "reminder" on a table. It''s bad enough to have a wishing well at a wedding, but at an engagement party it just screams Give Me Money
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The problem I have with wishing wells is only this: guests generally make their decisions re: gift-giving before the wedding. Most even send the gift before. If they're going to give money, they generally bring a pre-filled-out check with them to the wedding--not a checkbook or a bunch of cash, to decide upon an amount at the wedding.

So (except in cases of cultural importance), a wishing well isn't exactly logical in any other way than "Hey, now that you're here, wanna give us some money? (even if you already gave us a gift?)" *wink*wink*nudge*nudge*

Or maybe I'm just being dense and not getting the actual (more friendly) logic behind it.
 
I agree with neatfreak: moms are good at getting the word out.
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People will probably mostly give you $$ anyway, since you probably won''t be registering anywhere if you have most of what you like/need/want already!

Also, the thing about wishing wells being anonymous also makes it kind of crummy--no thank you notes is pretty rude in my book.
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Although you may never attend an engagement party without a gift of some sort, please be aware that--according to many "bridal books"--you should never ever expect or solicite a gift for an engagement party...regardless of your elopement plans.

If you do recieve gifts for an e-party, they are usually on the smaller side...a lovely candle, or serving bowl. So I wouldn''t advise you to plan on recieving serious "wedding-esk" cash. And I wouldn''t set out a wishing well either. Although, after your wedding, you may recieve some nice "congratulation" presents from those who want to celebrate your union but were unable to attend. My dear friend eloped with her husband, and sent out announcements after the wedding---they recieved lovely gifts and money from close friends and family.

Sadly, you cannot decide what or when people will give you anything. Although you are settled and not in dire need of anything doesn''t mean everyone will just give cash. When I have attended e-parties, I always gift a "house" gift and if we attend the wedding, it is then... and only then... that I give money.

Do the guests attending your party know that you are eloping? If they don''t, they will probably assume that a wedding will be following--and save the nicer of the gifts for that (if, like I pointed out before, they gift you at all for the e-party).
 
I agree with neatfreak: moms are good at getting the word out.
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People will probably mostly give you $$ anyway, since you probably won''t be registering anywhere if you have most of what you like/need/want already!

Also, the thing about wishing wells being anonymous also makes it kind of crummy--no thank you notes is pretty rude in my book.
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I would skip the wishing well. At least in my social circle, engagement parties are pretty informal affairs, and it would make many guests feel awkward to have a "reminder" to contribute money to them. If someone wants to give you money, they will find a way to give it to you. I also think all gifts require a thank you note, so I don''t think anonymous money gifts are the way to go.
 
Date: 9/19/2008 8:22:00 PM
Author: neatfreak
Please don''t do the wishing well, it''s really tacky unless it''s a cultural thing IMO. I think spreading the word via parents is the way to go. Just have mom''s line be ''I know they were really hoping to buy a patio set from XYZ store'' and leave it at that.

Totally agree. I agree with Italia also in that I wouldn''t expect engagement gifts from everyone and that they are usually on the smaller side. We got some beautiful bottles of champagne, some lovely frames etc.
 
I would skip it.

I ALWAYS take a gift to an engagement party - but of the box of chocolates/bottle of champagne variety. I''ve never heard of ''serious'' gifts at an e-party.
 
Unless culturally appropriate and expected, a big NO NO as far as I am concerned.

As PP have mentioned, e-parties are not really about gifts, if they are given they are on the small side, a token of love and friendship, not to set up a young couple.

I do the same as Pandora, box of nice chocolates, good chamnpagen or specialist big glossy book eg on travel if I know the couple are into travel etc.

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Alrighteo - well, here in Australia, the whole e-party gifts are pretty serious. We would give the same sorts of gifts for an engagement as the wedding.

Maybe I didn''t make myself clear in my first post - I really don''t give two craps about getting presents or not, I am trying to avoid the whole what do you want questions that have already started pouring in in the TWO days that our invites have been out. I would honestly be happy if my friends and family just turned up and had a blast. I feel really uncomfortable about the whole presents idea, nothing makes me more uncomfortable than receiving presents.

So, what should I do then, how do I answer these questions? Quite a few people have suggested the wishing well idea that I thought it would be a way to deflect these questions and take the pressue off? It seems like a few of you think I am just money hungry with no taste?!
 
Date: 9/19/2008 8:47:05 PM
Author: purrfectpear
If people choose to give you an engagement gift they will do so without a tasteless ''reminder'' on a table. It''s bad enough to have a wishing well at a wedding, but at an engagement party it just screams Give Me Money
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As I pointed out before people are asking me what we want!! They don''t seem to take nothing for an acceptable answer!

Do you have any constructive advise, or just another dig?!
 
Date: 9/19/2008 8:52:15 PM
Author: musey
The problem I have with wishing wells is only this: guests generally make their decisions re: gift-giving before the wedding. Most even send the gift before. If they''re going to give money, they generally bring a pre-filled-out check with them to the wedding--not a checkbook or a bunch of cash, to decide upon an amount at the wedding.

So (except in cases of cultural importance), a wishing well isn''t exactly logical in any other way than ''Hey, now that you''re here, wanna give us some money? (even if you already gave us a gift?)'' *wink*wink*nudge*nudge*

Or maybe I''m just being dense and not getting the actual (more friendly) logic behind it.
This is totally not what we thought it would entail. Only if asked (they are not just spreading the word), the Mum''s would say that they could contribute to the well if they wanted. I totally wouldn''t want anyone to just drop cash in when they are there! God, I so don''t want people to think that.

Why can''t people just come and have a good time?!
 
Date: 9/20/2008 9:02:09 AM
Author: honey22
Date: 9/19/2008 8:52:15 PM

Author: musey

The problem I have with wishing wells is only this: guests generally make their decisions re: gift-giving before the wedding. Most even send the gift before. If they're going to give money, they generally bring a pre-filled-out check with them to the wedding--not a checkbook or a bunch of cash, to decide upon an amount at the wedding.


So (except in cases of cultural importance), a wishing well isn't exactly logical in any other way than 'Hey, now that you're here, wanna give us some money? (even if you already gave us a gift?)' *wink*wink*nudge*nudge*


Or maybe I'm just being dense and not getting the actual (more friendly) logic behind it.

This is totally not what we thought it would entail. Only if asked (they are not just spreading the word), the Mum's would say that they could contribute to the well if they wanted. I totally wouldn't want anyone to just drop cash in when they are there! God, I so don't want people to think that.


Why can't people just come and have a good time?!

They can. Just say no gifts please!

Like we all said, it's FINE for the moms to politely say that they know you wanted XYZ from a store, and giftcards would be appreciated, etc. But a wishing well implies something different entirely, and it sounds like it's something you DON'T want to imply. So just don't have one.
 
"We have everything we need and simply want to celebrate our engagement with you. Please come and enjoy yourself, it''s the best and only gift we''d like to receive."
 
Date: 9/20/2008 8:58:01 AM
Author: honey22
Alrighteo - well, here in Australia, the whole e-party gifts are pretty serious. We would give the same sorts of gifts for an engagement as the wedding.

Maybe I didn''t make myself clear in my first post - I really don''t give two craps about getting presents or not, I am trying to avoid the whole what do you want questions that have already started pouring in in the TWO days that our invites have been out. I would honestly be happy if my friends and family just turned up and had a blast. I feel really uncomfortable about the whole presents idea, nothing makes me more uncomfortable than receiving presents.

So, what should I do then, how do I answer these questions? Quite a few people have suggested the wishing well idea that I thought it would be a way to deflect these questions and take the pressue off? It seems like a few of you think I am just money hungry with no taste?!
While engagement parties are just picking up steam here in the US as a whole...they are already very popular in Chicago. I have been to many, and have seen them range from very casual to extremely formal (mine was more on the formal side of things, and the guest list reached a wee bit over 130 people). Regardless of the formality, I always gift a small--but hopefully meaningful--token of my happiness for them. Wine, serving bowls, candles...along that line.

If your end goal is end up rolling in the dough...I hope you''re not disappointed. I would suggest expressing that your only wish is for them to come and celebrate with you...and let your Mothers do the nitty gritty when it comes to suggesting what/where to buy you things from. Money, is never okay to be directly asked for...sorry.
 
If someone asks, just say you have everything you need and all you''d like is their company on the night.
 
Thanks ladies. We have just told people to come and have a good time, no gifts necessary. I have nixed the whole wishing well idea, I wasn''t comfortable with it anyway, I thought it would alleviate the pressure to give a gift but I can see that it would only make it worse. If people continue to ask after we have told them it''s not necessary, I will just send em over to the Mum''s they can sort it out.
 
Date: 9/20/2008 12:41:47 PM
Author: Italiahaircolor

Date: 9/20/2008 8:58:01 AM
Author: honey22
Alrighteo - well, here in Australia, the whole e-party gifts are pretty serious. We would give the same sorts of gifts for an engagement as the wedding.

Maybe I didn''t make myself clear in my first post - I really don''t give two craps about getting presents or not, I am trying to avoid the whole what do you want questions that have already started pouring in in the TWO days that our invites have been out. I would honestly be happy if my friends and family just turned up and had a blast. I feel really uncomfortable about the whole presents idea, nothing makes me more uncomfortable than receiving presents.

So, what should I do then, how do I answer these questions? Quite a few people have suggested the wishing well idea that I thought it would be a way to deflect these questions and take the pressue off? It seems like a few of you think I am just money hungry with no taste?!
While engagement parties are just picking up steam here in the US as a whole...they are already very popular in Chicago. I have been to many, and have seen them range from very casual to extremely formal (mine was more on the formal side of things, and the guest list reached a wee bit over 130 people). Regardless of the formality, I always gift a small--but hopefully meaningful--token of my happiness for them. Wine, serving bowls, candles...along that line.

If your end goal is end up rolling in the dough...I hope you''re not disappointed. I would suggest expressing that your only wish is for them to come and celebrate with you...and let your Mothers do the nitty gritty when it comes to suggesting what/where to buy you things from. Money, is never okay to be directly asked for...sorry.
I have said it like twice now! I don''t expect or want anything. I don''t expect cash, I didn''t even think of the wishing well idea - several friends had suggested it when we told them presents weren''t necessary or expected. We are not asking for money directly at all.
 
Date: 9/21/2008 6:59:23 AM
Author: honey22
Thanks ladies. We have just told people to come and have a good time, no gifts necessary. I have nixed the whole wishing well idea, I wasn''t comfortable with it anyway, I thought it would alleviate the pressure to give a gift but I can see that it would only make it worse. If people continue to ask after we have told them it''s not necessary, I will just send em over to the Mum''s they can sort it out.
Rather than sending them to your mothers'' to "sort it out" if you truly don''t want gifts I would simply reiterate "Your attendance is the only gift we would lilke to receive and we hope you''ll respect our wishes."
 
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