Why do so many men like big boobs?

[AGBF]

Aren't most models "small breasted" nowadays?

They always have been. And so are ballerinas. Clothes hang better on straight figures, unimpeded by jutting breasts. Ballerinas with flat chests look better dancing classical ballet. That is all about specific visual arts, though, not about sexual appeal or other artistic appeal. But I just saw a beautiful rendition of "Kumbaya" sung by a choir in France with a woman in African garb who was well rounded (not obese) dancing to it. She was absolutely beautiful.

AGBF

 

[kenny]

You are actually speaking about AMERICAN men (as in men from the USA) when you generalize about men liking bigger breasts more than smaller ones.

Read my OP again.
Apparently you didn't see this sentence: "Does the preference for larger ones hold true for all countries and throughout history?"

The thread title is "Why do so many men ..." not, "Why do all men ..."
Further, I asked if it was nature or nurture.

Posing questions is kinda the opposite of generalizing.

Besides, generalizing is okay.
Some stuff is 'generally' true.
Exceptions to generalizations don't make generalizations not generally true.

I'm perplexed that generalizations disturb people so.
We all know that people vary.

 

[FrekeChild]

As with most things, nature and nurture play their part.

Prepubescent American males get social cues from magazines like Maxim, Victoria's Secret and Playboy where they emphasize women's curves. If they watch ****...well, big **** stars have a lot of curves, plastic and not. Visually, the women in those publications are curvy and sexualized. They are being taught that curvy women are sexy and desireable. Nurture.

Child bearing hips and breasts are "signs of fertility", long shiny hair, long nails, nice skin are all signs of health, youth and vitality. Breasts supply baby's most basic food. All are visual cues that that woman will make a good mate and bear strong healthy children. Nature.

Models...thin, bony, small breasted, small hipped seems to be desired by designers, and some women, because clothes are designed for them.

It gets confusing for women and men because of women like Victoria's Secret models - they are all photoshopped within an inch of their lives, including adding breast curve where there is none, padding bras like crazy and editing out nipples, they are stuck in ridiculous poses to make it look like they are curvier than they are, and they are all 6 feet tall and made to look "perfect" even though they aren't. So they appear to be tall, skinny but with hips and boobs.

No wonder we're so screwed up.

This is all basic evolutionary psychology stuff, btw. Speaking of, Kenny, I'm surprised you hadn't posted about Geoffrey Miller yet! (Go google news him.)

 

[kenny]

This is all basic evolutionary psychology stuff, btw. Speaking of, Kenny, I'm surprised you hadn't posted about Geoffrey Miller yet! (Go google news him.)

Never heard of the guy but thanks.
I read Wiki's blurb.
He has some views, especially about marketing and 'coolness', that he obviously copied from me.
Great minds ...

 

[autumngems]

Boobies, everyone has them.
Feeling a little dr. Seuss here

1 boob
2 boobs
Pale boobs
Tan boobs
Wanna see boobs?
Go to youtube

 

[lknvrb4]

I find that men usually fall into one of two categories, they are either boob men or butt men.

 

[momhappy]

I agree that it's part nature, part nurture.
It's funny because my experience has been that even with men who claim to love small boobs, they will still crank their heads around to ogle a large set of boobies. I think it's just visually-pleasing.

 

[TC1987]

I find that men usually fall into one of two categories, they are either boob men or butt men.

I read someplace, a long time ago, that the big breast fascination is the same thing, b/c big breasts (especially pushed up) look like buttocks. Which was mentioned in that video that Kenny posted.

I forget who said it, but back when the bullet bras were in, someone said is made "breasts that look like the flying buttresses on the town hall." Must have been someone from Europe. I don't know of any USA town halls that were built in the flying buttress era.

 

[aviastar]

Why do some men like big butts? And they cannot lie?

 

[Jennifer W]

You are actually speaking about AMERICAN men (as in men from the USA) when you generalize about men liking bigger breasts more than smaller ones.

Read my OP again.
Apparently you didn't see this sentence: "Does the preference for larger ones hold true for all countries and throughout history?"

The thread title is "Why do so many men ..." not, "Why do all men ..."
Further, I asked if it was nature or nurture.

Posing questions is kinda the opposite of generalizing.

Besides, generalizing is okay.
Some stuff is 'generally' true.
Exceptions to generalizations don't make generalizations not generally true.

I'm perplexed that generalizations disturb people so.
We all know that people vary.

Speaking for myself, generalisations disturb me because in my (personal) experience, depending on subject matter, they may be a good way of reaffirming prejudice, perpetuating error and entrenching divisive beliefs.

I think the question perhaps has a second aspect, that of the effect of the generalisation itself. Do some / few/ most / many / no men feel compelled on some level to claim to be (or even to be) more attracted to women with large breasts simply because it's a common generalisation that they are more attractive in some societies?

 

[kenny]

I see your point and denying employment or housing to a group would be an example of unacceptable generalization.

But many generalizations are essential and harmless shortcuts in life.
Generally when you see a green traffic light, the light for the cross traffic is red.
Sure, malfunction of the traffic signal is remotely possible so that both are green but generally we don't have to worry about that.
A person who never generalizes would stop for green lights ... just in case.
How absurd that would be.

We can generalize and say Chinese have dark hair.
White people have lighter skin.
Educated people make more money than uneducated ones.
Very smart people are smarter than less-smart people.
All these generalizations will get some people's knickers in a twist.

The harmless list is endless of stuff that is generally true.
Exceptions to generalizations do not make generalizations not generally true.
Yet, increasingly I find many people just go psycho when they read any generalization.

 

[Niel]

generalizations like this are harmless. Im sure even when a generalization doesnt apply to you, when you realize it does to the majority, its not a big deal. Like these

"men like pizza"
"men like woman"
"men like boobs"

these harmless generalizations should offend anymore, even if you happen to be one of the men that this doesnt apply to.


I feel like the statement offends some women that dont have large breasts because they still consider themselves attractive to men. Which is completely possible and not strange; you can in fact be attractive to men without having large breasts. But there is a reason that ladies that model in SI swimsuit edition have curves. The generalization is grounded is biological and statistical facts, so its a perfectly rational thing to say.

 

[FrekeChild]

This is all basic evolutionary psychology stuff, btw. Speaking of, Kenny, I'm surprised you hadn't posted about Geoffrey Miller yet! (Go google news him.)

Never heard of the guy but thanks.
I read Wiki's blurb.
He has some views, especially about marketing and 'coolness', that he obviously copied from me.
Great minds ...

I was actually thinking you should google news search him. He recently tweeted about obese grad students not having the willpower to keep from eating carbs, how would they ever finish a dissertation, and it's been on the news. I figured if you saw it you'd start a thread. Being that I am a psych grad of UNM and took a class from him, I am probably more likely to take note of it than other people.

https://www.google.com/search?q=geo...78,d.aWM&fp=49d250d6fead67fa&biw=1280&bih=650

 

[Madam Bijoux]

Many cowboys like to ride at the double-d ranch.They feel more secure when they have both hands on something substantial.

 

[Resonance.Of.Life]

^ hahaha, oh my goodness... I almost spit out my tea!

 

[Dreamer_D]

I think for some men big boobies remind them of their mommies and the warmth and security of being snuggled to a bosum. To a small babies, all breasts look large.

Apparently, men's sexual interests become rather fixed in their formative years. Women have wider ranging and more flexible tastes, but for men their early experiences shape their desires and they become pretty stable over time. Its why men have fetishes more often than woman, for example. So this makes me think a love of large breasts is similarly tied to early experiences.

 

[Laila619]

Larger breasts are supposed to signify fertility (too bad that didn't hold true for me!).

 

[monarch64]

Easier to motorboat?

THIS. Made me spit out my Pepsi earlier and actually laugh out loud. Still getting a good ab workout from it.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Freke...Show Kenny your $10K boobs..

 

[FrekeChild]

Freke...Show Kenny your $10K boobs..

Kenny is not a boob man.

And they were $20k.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Freke...Show Kenny your $10K boobs..

Kenny is not a boob man.

And they were $20k.

I meant 10K ea...

 

[partgypsy]

The old joke:
Q: how do you get a guy to stop looking at your chest and look at your face?
A: Eat a banana.

 

[kenny]

An old gay joke:

Men are pigs, and I'm porking out.

 

[House Cat]

I believe men are programmed (from a very young age) to like big boobs. It's simple as that. Just as some cultures are programmed to think long necks with rings on them are attractive or lips, split, with big plates in them are attractive, the American Culture is programmed to believe that big boobs are attractive. Men want them, women believe they should have them.

sigh.

That's it. It is just advertising.


If there were a trend tomorrow that big toes were incredibly sexually attractive TO MEN, believe me, people would be having toe enlargement.

Meanwhile, men are getting fatter, balder, and less attractive by the day, and we women still allow it......................................... It would be super cool to watch men wax and mutilate themselves in a fit of anxiety just to know how it feels...maybe for a decade.


Then I would like a meeting of the minds and acceptance. Ok, really, I would just like acceptance for who we are, sans the anxious male decade.

 

[kenny]

I believe men are programmed (from a very young age) to like big boobs. It's simple as that. Just as some cultures are programmed to think long necks with rings on them are attractive or lips, split, with big plates in them are attractive, the American Culture is programmed to believe that big boobs are attractive. Men want them, women believe they should have them.

sigh.

That's it. It is just advertising.


If there were a trend tomorrow that big toes were incredibly sexually attractive TO MEN, believe me, people would be having toe enlargement.

Meanwhile, men are getting fatter, balder, and less attractive by the day, and we women still allow it......................................... It would be super cool to watch men wax and mutilate themselves in a fit of anxiety just to know how it feels...maybe for a decade.


Then I would like a meeting of the minds and acceptance. Ok, really, I would just like acceptance for who we are, sans the anxious male decade.

I love this post.

 

[House Cat]

I believe men are programmed (from a very young age) to like big boobs. It's simple as that. Just as some cultures are programmed to think long necks with rings on them are attractive or lips, split, with big plates in them are attractive, the American Culture is programmed to believe that big boobs are attractive. Men want them, women believe they should have them.

sigh.

That's it. It is just advertising.


If there were a trend tomorrow that big toes were incredibly sexually attractive TO MEN, believe me, people would be having toe enlargement.

Meanwhile, men are getting fatter, balder, and less attractive by the day, and we women still allow it......................................... It would be super cool to watch men wax and mutilate themselves in a fit of anxiety just to know how it feels...maybe for a decade.


Then I would like a meeting of the minds and acceptance. Ok, really, I would just like acceptance for who we are, sans the anxious male decade.

I love this post.

Thanks.

 

[momhappy]

^I think the issue is much more complex than that. I don't think it's as simple as being programmed what to like and what not to like. I think that certainly plays a role, but nature does too. I didn't program my son to like trucks and cars and yet there he was, asking for Hot Wheels cars in Target before he could barely talk.

 

[AGBF]

^I think the issue is much more complex than that. I don't think it's as simple as being programmed what to like and what not to like. I think that certainly plays a role, but nature does too. I didn't program my son to like trucks and cars and yet there he was, asking for Hot Wheels cars in Target before he could barely talk.

This is a thoughtful posting, momhappy. I don't feel I have any definitive answer to any question, but I am glad you threw that thought out. I had always tended to look at the "nurture" side of "nature versus nurture" see saw as being a little lower down, more heavily weighted in the debate, then I got Golden Retriever.

Growing up the dogs my family had owned were spaniels. Suddenly I had who was bringing me shoes every minute of the day. From birth. It made me think.

Deb

 

[NakedFinger]

I'm a 32-DDD.

They're real, and they're spectacular

Coincidentally, I was actually watching some documentary last night about this, and they studied men and women, sensory vision, they had cameras sensing what they focused on when meeting someone of the opposite sex, etc. Women are drawn to a symmetrical face, because its better genes for procreating, men notice fuller lips because women with fuller lips tend to be more fertile, etc. They also did a study on body types men were drawn to, and larger breasts ranked the highest every time. The doctor did say that there was no biological need for larger breasts, but since we now walk erect, she said something about them protruding out more and being the first thing men notice, kind of as a easier way of attracting a mate. Men are more visual so they just notice them first. I wish I could recall exactly what they said and what the name of the documentary was to reference it because it was quite interesting, but I was flipping back and forth.

I will say, as a heterosexual woman who is not looking to mate with a woman, lol, I also love larger boobs. I love the way they fill out tops, and definitely tend to notice them. When my colleague got hers done, I definitely had to have a feel. Haha.

 

[princesss]

^I think the issue is much more complex than that. I don't think it's as simple as being programmed what to like and what not to like. I think that certainly plays a role, but nature does too. I didn't program my son to like trucks and cars and yet there he was, asking for Hot Wheels cars in Target before he could barely talk.

But did he come to that desire in a vaccuum? Probably not. There is a huge number of messages sent to people every day about what they should and shouldn't like, how they should and shouldn't act, etc. You may not have programmed him to like cars, but culture at large did. Heck, just look at the way toy stores (or any stores) are set up. Mens/boys things here, womens/girls things there, and ne'er the twain shall meet.

Whether we realize it or not, we start programming people to fall in line with societal norms from before they are born. We want to define them, to show them their place in the world, in part because we have a system set up where you have to play by very exacting rules in order to succeed. By accepting and perpetuating these standards, we're limiting people from the very start.

So you want to know why "most" men like big boobs? Because those are the hypersexualized images they've seen from a very young age. Because we (at least here in the States) act like breasts are solely sexual, and gasp in shock and horror if we accidentally see one and have to come up with euphamisms for what happened if we do ("Wardrobe malfunction" anyone?). We make a big point about female bodies/chests being covered at all times, despite the fact that little girls have nothing more in the way of breasts than their male counterparts. Because straight men who aren't attracted to them are talked about with mild shock, as if they'd announced that they had a tail at birth. "Oh, wow, really? Wait, are you serious?" We send these messages in a million different ways and don't even realize we're doing it because, as adults, we're so used to it that it seems natural when really it's just terribly effective conditioning.